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Title: A&H problem
Post by: The Night Stalker on March 18, 2014, 07:53:00 PM
I have an original aluminum riser on my 64 inch limbs. I posted this before, I shoot with the feather touching my nose as one anchor point. Every once in a while, I will hit the back of my bow hand with the feather quill. I have raised the nock point in the past, built up the bottom pad.  A friend of mine shot the bow yesterday in the basement and the first shot ripped into the back of his hand.
I wanted to know if anyone else has experienced this and how they resolved it, what riser they were shooting,etc. I called and left a message with A&H. I might try another riser. I would like to try the JT or RC.
Title: Re: A&H problem
Post by: postman on March 18, 2014, 08:14:00 PM
Was at a shoot Sunday and a shooter had a stick on elevated rest, said when he shot off shelf the feather cut his hand.
Title: Re: A&H problem
Post by: postman on March 18, 2014, 08:15:00 PM
He also shot and A&H.
Title: Re: A&H problem
Post by: Pointer on March 18, 2014, 08:26:00 PM
happened with mine all the time..finally got rid of it..annoying to shoot
Title: Re: A&H problem
Post by: Pointer on March 18, 2014, 08:27:00 PM
happened with mine all the time..finally got rid of it..annoying to shoot
Title: Re: A&H problem
Post by: The Night Stalker on March 18, 2014, 09:01:00 PM
So, I am not the only one. I shoot three under on a bow not tilled for three under. I wonder if that makes a difference?
Title: Re: A&H problem
Post by: DTD on March 18, 2014, 09:21:00 PM
I had the same issue. A buddy of mine also had the same problem. Per A&H advice, I glued a piece of leather on the shelf which seemed to help. Also, some feather types seem to be worse than others and the way they are position in relationship to the shelf. I place mine at 12/4/8 o'clock position.
Title: Re: A&H problem
Post by: dragonheart on March 18, 2014, 09:39:00 PM
I had one that did that also.  I wanted to try an arrow rest on it, but I sold the bow.
Title: Re: A&H problem
Post by: mec lineman on March 18, 2014, 09:57:00 PM
I had the same problem with my 14" riser on my a&h  , Damn feathers would take the bark off right off my hand, I raised the nock point and cured it Most of the time. A&h is fine bow but I swear they have some funny quirks with them!
Title: Re: A&H problem
Post by: meatCKR on March 18, 2014, 10:22:00 PM
I had that issue once.  Not an A&H though.  I was shooting right wing feathers.  Switched to left wing feathers and problem was solved.  Not sure what kind of feathers you are shooting but it's something to think about.
Title: Re: A&H problem
Post by: B3a5t on March 18, 2014, 10:26:00 PM
I had the same problem with my 3 piece but not with the 2 piece..thought it was me
Title: Re: A&H problem
Post by: screamin on March 19, 2014, 01:12:00 AM
meatCKR has nailed it!
Title: Re: A&H problem
Post by: Yellow Dog on March 19, 2014, 05:58:00 AM
I like a riser cut close to the hand. My guess is you're right handed and shooting right wing helical, switch to left wing and you'll never cut your hand again. I also fletch with tape and make sure I put a good dab of Fletchtite on the lead edge of the quill to cover up the sharp edge.  I have a Pittsley Predator and was shooting with a friend. If you've ever shot one they're cut very low and the arrow is right on your hand. I was shooting aluminum's at the time and he was shooting carbons. He gave me one of his carbons to try out, right wing when I've always shot left. The first shot I buried a feather 1" into my hand. The only reason I shoot left helical.
Title: Re: A&H problem
Post by: The Night Stalker on March 19, 2014, 07:31:00 AM
Nope Yellow Dog,
I shoot right hand and have always shot left helical as recommended.  My feather orientation has to be the same because  I use my feather as a reference point.
Title: Re: A&H problem
Post by: Caughtandhobble on March 19, 2014, 07:32:00 AM
Try putting your cock feather in, this should help some. The ST grips and big ole paws are challenging from time to time. I have never tried any of their other 3 piece risers, but I can tell you the 1 piece A&H has one awesome grip   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A&H problem
Post by: ChuckC on March 19, 2014, 08:00:00 AM
Any bow with a grip that allows your hand to be at the level of the shelf will do this.  You can revert to the "other wing" fletches, you can shoot a different style of fletching (4 fletch  or two fletch), or you can often simply turn the orientation of the arrow (nock) when you apply those fletch so that they sit in a manner that they won't contact your hand.  Also, try sanding the front edge of the feather so it doesn't catch things as easily.

CHuckC
Title: Re: A&H problem
Post by: killinstuff on March 19, 2014, 08:02:00 AM
That skinny throat can make the back of the hand pucker up and be as high or higher then the shelf on the standard riser. I bet there are dang few guys that have had an A&H that haven't been feather nipped using the standard 14" riser. You won't have that problem with a 16" or a JK. I never used an RC though.
Title: Re: A&H problem
Post by: Orion on March 19, 2014, 09:52:00 AM
What Chuck and Killing stuff say.  I've been shooting ACSs for nearly 10 years, all with JK low wrists.  Seldom have a problem with feathers hitting my bow hand.
Title: Re: A&H problem
Post by: Burnsie on March 19, 2014, 10:39:00 AM
Shot a standard 14" riser at Kazoo a couple years ago, and after three arrows had a little blood trail on the top of my hand from being nipped by the feather.  As Killinstuff said, I noticed the meaty part of my hand puckered up and was right to the top of the shelf.  Would not have been pleasant to shoot like that for any length of time.
Title: Re: A&H problem
Post by: Archie on March 19, 2014, 12:29:00 PM
Definitely try nocking the arrow backward, with the cock-feather facing the other direction.  

Leaving a nice smooth drop of glue on the leading edge of that feather may help you as well.

I shoot with a rest, both with my recurve and my longbow.  I find my shooting to be much more accurate and consistent, because my arrows no longer have anything to bump into as they launch out of the bow... they no longer hit my hand, nor the shelf.
Title: Re: A&H problem
Post by: The Night Stalker on March 19, 2014, 05:53:00 PM
I talked to Larry, I think I am going to try to find a different style riser and put it back on the shelf. This riser belongs to my stepson. Larry is going to weigh a couple of risers and get back with me.  I really want to try a JT or a RC.
Title: Re: A&H problem
Post by: GregD on March 19, 2014, 06:34:00 PM
I have a piece of leather under a rug rest. Make sure your arrows are not underspined as well. I still always manage to bleed from somewhere when ever I shoot.