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Title: self nock/router?
Post by: Jon Stewart on March 11, 2014, 01:09:00 PM
What size router bit do you use to cut in self nocks.?
Title: Re: self nock/router?
Post by: Caughtandhobble on March 11, 2014, 01:38:00 PM
Two hack saw blades, then sand paper.
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Post by: RAU on March 11, 2014, 02:53:00 PM
The ones ive dont have been with hard wood shafts so i didnt need footing. I used ash shafts. I cut the nocks with 2 pices of hacksaw blade as Caughtnadhobble then shaped with a little Nicholson file set I Picked up at lowes. It was a good investment for making self nocks theres all sizes and shapes in a little clear plastic folder for around $12. With the little flat, and rat tail files I was actually able to make self nocks that click onto the string. I then cleaned them up with fine sandpaper
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Post by: gringol on March 11, 2014, 02:58:00 PM
I tried a router once.  It was a mess.  Slow and easy is the way to go.  hand tools are what you need.
Title: Re: self nock/router?
Post by: Jack Skinner on March 11, 2014, 03:22:00 PM
Band saw kerf, then three hacksaw blades taped together (guess I use a big string), then if needed small file as above, and then fine sandpaper.

Also check out Nifty Nocker
Title: Re: self nock/router?
Post by: ChuckC on March 11, 2014, 06:31:00 PM
I am guessing that drilling a hole where the bottom of the nock will end up and then sawing up to it, that will guide you and also give you a rounded bottom.
ChuckC
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Post by: Pat B on March 11, 2014, 11:01:00 PM
I make a single band saw cut and open it to fit the string with a thin bladed knife and sand paper folded over and over again until the slot is the right size.
Title: Re: self nock/router?
Post by: Sockrsblur on March 12, 2014, 04:23:00 PM
Double hack saw blade, Samll rat tail file, emery boards, sand paper worked well for me.

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If you are careful sanding you can get a real custom fit that snaps on to your string and will not fall off without a tap. You really have to go slow and keep the throat narrower than the base.

(http://i.imgur.com/0H2foSw.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/E3t8zme.jpg)

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Title: Re: self nock/router?
Post by: Buemaker on March 12, 2014, 04:35:00 PM
Line up the fence on the band saw so the first cut is a little bit off center, then rotate shaft 180 degrees and make second cut, then finish with round file and sand paper. This way the slot will be dead center. Bue--.
Title: Re: self nock/router?
Post by: Jon Stewart on March 12, 2014, 07:26:00 PM
I appreciate everyone's  suggestions and I have used just about all of them.

I am still looking for the router bit size that is used when cutting a nock.  I read it somewhere and can't remember what size it is.
Title: Re: self nock/router?
Post by: Pat B on March 12, 2014, 11:40:00 PM
Why make it more difficult than it has to be.
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Post by: iohkus on March 13, 2014, 12:15:00 AM
I've worked with routers for a long time (cabinet shop) and can honestly tell you routers cut quick AND where you don't want them to if your workpiece is not held rigidly. That means constructing a jig to hold both your shafts securely AND guide  your router. Just sayin'.
   Your router bit size would be determined by your string diameter.
Title: Re: self nock/router?
Post by: smoke1953 on March 13, 2014, 09:18:00 AM
I have a stationary scroll saw that works great with a great deal of control, however I'm using hardwood vs cedar allowing slower cut . Folded sandpaper does the rest. A pilot hole would be more trouble than it's worth especially with ash that I use.
Title: Re: self nock/router?
Post by: mahantango on March 13, 2014, 06:07:00 PM
I too have worked with routers for 30+ years and agree with iohkus. If you do want to go this route, I would suggest a table-mounted router with a guide/fence to move the shaft into the bit. Straight bit, probably spiral, a little smaller than your string.
Title: Re: self nock/router?
Post by: Jon Stewart on March 14, 2014, 10:17:00 AM
ttt
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Post by: mike g on March 14, 2014, 10:31:00 AM
I have a small jig made for self nocks and a round hack saw blade....
  It worked real well, I got it from one of the Trad. Archery suppliers, Don't remember which one...
Title: Re: self nock/router?
Post by: Jon Stewart on March 14, 2014, 08:11:00 PM
Still looking for the router but size.