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Title: Long draw length and short people
Post by: The Night Stalker on March 09, 2014, 01:57:00 PM
Sometimes they differ, years ago I visited Mike Treadway, a bowyer from NC.  He asked me what my draw was and I told him that I thought it was a little over 29 inches.  If anyone has ever met Mike, he is about the down to earth as a person can get. He looked down at me and said, let's measure. In disbelief, he told me I was right. I read were draw is measured from the deepest part of the grip + 1 3/4 inch.  I measure to the front of the shelf.  A year or two later, I was at the state shoot and Mike called me to his booth were several people were standing around admiring the display of His bows. He had me take one of his shorter longbows with his draw measuring arrow to show my draw length. Apparently, there was some friendly debate going on.  The guy questioning Mike was about 6'2".  Yesterday, I took a clothes pin and attached it to one of my Axis shafts, drew my bow and marked it. Later in the day, I found a tape and measured 29.5 inches.  He is the kicker, I am only 5'7" and I think  I am shrinking.  Anyone else experience this?   Tim in NC
Title: Re: Long draw length and short people
Post by: Pat B on March 09, 2014, 02:10:00 PM
Tim, Eddie Parker(Mullet on PA) is short(your height or less) but has a 29" or 30" draw. Nobody would believe it until they saw him shoot.
I agree that Mike is one of the Best. I've known Mike for years and got my Treadway longbow from Mike in 1999 and made my first trad kill that fall with the bow.
Title: Re: Long draw length and short people
Post by: Biathlonman on March 09, 2014, 03:34:00 PM
I'm barely 5'10" and draw a touch over 29" when I'm doing things right. Most folks don't believe it until I show them.
Title: Re: Long draw length and short people
Post by: tradgreenhorn on March 09, 2014, 03:38:00 PM
I'm 5ft.8" and draw right at 29".
Title: Re: Long draw length and short people
Post by: Clint B. on March 09, 2014, 04:06:00 PM
I don't believe I "have" a draw length.  I "chose" a draw length that fits my particular shooting style.  If you made me change my shooting form (open or close my stance, straighten or bend my bow arm, move my anchor point, etc.), my draw length would change accordingly.
Title: Re: Long draw length and short people
Post by: kawika b on March 09, 2014, 04:13:00 PM
5'3" with a 25" draw... sucks being average... you monkey armed fellas have my envy.
Title: Re: Long draw length and short people
Post by: ChuckC on March 09, 2014, 05:00:00 PM
Kawika,  life has good points at both ends.  You can use short bows that long draw folks can only dream of.  

In my former life I flew a fair amount, and of course, since it was for Uncle, I didn't fly first class.  I barely fit in the seats, and when there were two, or even three of us bigger guys in a row, it TOTALLY sucked.  And right then, the person in front of me would lay his seat back.

We all gotta Take what we got and make the best of it.  Course, it is more fun to yell and scream !
  :biglaugh:  

ChuckC
Title: Re: Long draw length and short people
Post by: Pat B on March 09, 2014, 06:04:00 PM
I only draw 26" and never felt inadequate because of it. I build my bows to suit my shooting style.
Title: Re: Long draw length and short people
Post by: Kip on March 09, 2014, 06:15:00 PM
I am 5'8" and draw 29" always thought I was an odd ball.My wife is sure I am.Kip
Title: Re: Long draw length and short people
Post by: The Night Stalker on March 09, 2014, 06:27:00 PM
Chuck, you brought up a great point.  I just do not feel comfortable shooting a 60 inch recurve or a 62 inch long bow normally. There are exceptions.
Title: Re: Long draw length and short people
Post by: bisket on March 09, 2014, 08:51:00 PM
I'm in "this group" also.  I am 5'9" and draw a solid 29".  It's been doubted by people before also.  I shoot split with middle finger to corner of mouth at release point.
Title: Re: Long draw length and short people
Post by: Chris Jackson on March 09, 2014, 09:20:00 PM
I'm in that category of being a very compact person with a 25 inch draw.  All I can say is being a runt has advantages.  In reality I do believe a talented bowyer can and will build a stick that works with your particular body type.  Oh one advantage is the kids section at my sporting goods store is never sold out of that favorite camo pattern!
Title: Re: Long draw length and short people
Post by: BAK on March 09, 2014, 09:38:00 PM
Folks, this is really not complicated.  Draw length is a factor of two measurements.   Arm length is the obvious one but just as important is shoulder width.  A short fella with broad shoulders can have a longer draw than a taller guy without.
Title: Re: Long draw length and short people
Post by: KeganM on March 10, 2014, 11:18:00 AM
I've made a few bows for folks who weren't tall but had long draws. I think guys who aren't as tall don't worry about pulling into the bow as much as taller guys. I've met a quite a few guys who were as tall, or taller, than I am but just didn't expand into the shot as much as they could (or should- it's free horsepower!)
Title: Re: Long draw length and short people
Post by: Orion on March 10, 2014, 02:08:00 PM
Yep.  In addition to arm length and shoulder width, where the person anchors also plays a big role in draw length.  Some folks anchor well past the corner of their mouth, nearly at their ear, for example.
Title: Re: Long draw length and short people
Post by: KentuckyTJ on March 10, 2014, 02:15:00 PM
Yeah not a height issue. Its an arm length shoulder width thing.
Title: Re: Long draw length and short people
Post by: Wheels2 on March 10, 2014, 02:35:00 PM
The longer the draw the better for you as you get a bit more speed due to the longer power stroke.
Worrying about draw length to height distracts me from more important issues in shooting.
It is what it is......
Title: Re: Long draw length and short people
Post by: BAK on March 10, 2014, 04:19:00 PM
Very good point Orion.
Title: Re: Long draw length and short people
Post by: old_goat2 on March 10, 2014, 05:21:00 PM
My wife is 5'8" she pulls 29" on her hunting bow, I've seen her pull longer on her daughters little 25# bow. I'm 5'11" and pull 31" . I've had the advantage of taking an archery instructor class and had an understanding of where my anchor should end up being before I started shooting stick bows. I think your draw is where it should be and a lot of people I see shooting aren't reaching their full potential and are in effect, short drawing.
Title: Re: Long draw length and short people
Post by: Tim on March 11, 2014, 12:18:00 PM
Timmy...those long arms of yours are the result of way too many pull ups at the YMCA when we were younger!   :laughing:
Title: Re: Long draw length and short people
Post by: The Night Stalker on March 11, 2014, 09:26:00 PM
Tim,  
Mike Treadway  thought my draw came from my shoulders. If you remember my older brother Rendal, we could face each other eye to eye and I would touch his nose and when he tried to touch my nose, his arm would fall short about 6 inches. If you remember the YMCA days, he bench pressed close to 400 lbs. I  wished  I have never seen a weight or horse for that matter, I feel it everyday. I do not bounce back like I use to.
Title: Re: Long draw length and short people
Post by: Nathan Killen on March 12, 2014, 07:49:00 AM
I'm a small framed 5'8" man and my draw is a fiz over 29". 3 years ago it was barely 28" if that. I think the more you shoot the stronger you get and the better you come into your form. Just my observation.
Title: Re: Long draw length and short people
Post by: shortstroke 91 on March 12, 2014, 10:12:00 PM
5'5" with a 29 1/4 length draw. I get funny looks from folks who hear me say that until they see me draw a 30" arrow and the field point is almost on the shelf.
Title: Re: Long draw length and short people
Post by: JB74nola on March 14, 2014, 01:25:00 AM
I read something just now saying a good way to measure your draw length is to place the nock of your arrow against your cest between your out stretched arms hold the end of the shaft between you out stretched hands and from the furthest point of your fingers add 2"... I have it a shot just to try it out and low and low and behold after taking the tape measure to it, the measurement was 27" from seat of nock to back of point. Exactly what my draw length is. If you guys would mind giving it a try for me and see if it holds true with every one.
Title: Re: Long draw length and short people
Post by: randy grider on March 14, 2014, 01:44:00 AM
not saying you arnt a 29.5 inch draw, because it is possible, but ive also seen lots of people draw more when they know they are being checked. Its fun to watch people get measured, than see them drawing considerable less out on the range. Ive seen it, many times. Im 5'11", and draw a good honest 28".
Title: Re: Long draw length and short people
Post by: dragonheart on March 14, 2014, 03:53:00 PM
Wingspan measurement.
Title: Re: Long draw length and short people
Post by: on March 14, 2014, 04:14:00 PM
69" with a stout wind at my back.  When I shot with my target bow my draw was 28.5 plus.  I was easy to spot in the photos, I was the guy that looked like he was about to fall backwards.
Taking Hill's parameters, I am still over drawing at 26.25".