Shooting my bow this afternoon, and this happened.
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I'm still a little bit shaken up, this is the first one to ever blow up on me. What stinks is, this is one of the best shooting bows I have ever held. 87# at 28"
Now for the part that makes this post "not for the faint of heart"... my abs covered with winter grizzle. :biglaugh: This is the only injury I sustained, my gut and my knuckle, thank God. It felt like the bow had impaled me.
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The very kind gentleman I bought the bow from even offered to reimburse me the full cost of the bow, without me even asking. I didn't feel right about that so we came to another agreement.
Thanks for reading.
Tom
Whoa! Coulda been a lot worse. Glad you are okay.
I'm sure 87@28 didn't feel good.
OUCH!!!!!!!
Any theories on where and why it failed?
Man that sucks. What caused this?
Ghoster,
I don't want to speculate, I think it just happens sometimes- even with the best of equipment.
I strictly followed the 8 to 10 GPP rule of thumb, and was drawing it right at 28".
Tom
Dang! Glad you're ok. Just reading the bow specs made my back muscles hurt...
That sucks, I have had 2 bows delaminates while shooting but it was at the top of the limbs.
Man that really sucks but, I'm just glad you were not hurt worse! :eek:
Godbless ya your lucky!!
Glad you are OK!
I have had a couple bows break on me and it sucks when it happens!
Bisch
Glad you weren't hurt more seriously. That's a pretty small longbow riser for that much draw weight. Not a lot of wood in the sight window. Looks like you found it's structural limit.
Glad your OK and sorry about your bow. I didn't think two piece bows were made at such a heavy draw weight? Perhaps that had something to do with it? No expert, just an observation!
WOW! Very glad you were not seriously injured!
Yikes. Glad that's all that happened to ya.
The take down system looks fine to me. That wasn't the problem. I saw this bow on the auction site recently. That was a beautiful bow. Glad you're okay.
WOW :scared: Glad your ok
Glad it turned out OK. Had a Graphlex arrow accordian on my arm once years ago and though I had been stuck.
OUCH!!! Glad to hear you weren't hurt worse and nice of the bowyer is going to make it right. :thumbsup:
QuoteOriginally posted by jmahma:
The take down system looks fine to me. That wasn't the problem. I saw this border griffon on the auction site recently. That was a beautiful bow. Glad you're okay.
Your probably right Jmahama, but it could have contributed to the weakening of the riser section due to the rigidity of the grip section. There must be a reason why most bowyers limit draw weight on two piece bows? Not saying that was the problem for the bow blowing up, but was a possible contributing factor. Nothing is proven out here that I can see! Maybe a bowyer or two will weigh in.
Had one explode while drawing on a turkey. Not fun! Glad you are OK, if a little worse for wear.
Bummer for sure. I cant see any type of reinforcement running thru the riser block? That sure needs to be for a bow of that weight and with the sleeve take down.
QuoteOriginally posted by Knawbone:
QuoteOriginally posted by jmahma:
The take down system looks fine to me. That wasn't the problem. I saw this border griffon on the auction site recently. That was a beautiful bow. Glad you're okay.
Your probably right Jmahama, but it could have contributed to the weakening of the riser section due to the rigidity of the grip section. There must be a reason why most bowyers limit draw weight on two piece bows? Not saying that was the problem for the bow blowing up, but was a possible contributing factor. Nothing is proven out here that I can see! Maybe a bowyer or two will weigh in. [/b]
I see where you're coming from! Most important thing is no one is seriously hurt.
YIKES!!! It's time to start wearing glasses when I shoot...
I had shot this bow many times and had full confidence in this bow. Sad this was a beaut and a fine performer. Sure glad your not hurt bad it looks like it exploded. I have a 100#@28 Big Jim take down that I drew to 29" the other day, I may not be doing that anymore. Nope not after seeing that JEESH!!!
I was with Tom at the time and we were checking his draw length with a draw check arrow. I was just getting ready to read the length when she blew. I want to tell you that bow flew all over my shop. I am just so glad Tom is doing ok and no real serious injuries. I don't know how I got my face away in time. I have seen bows blow up ..but this was an explosion!
Wow - hard to believe that could happen! Has feel bad, but you are quite lucky.
Asking a traditional bow to withstand 87# @ 28" is tough. Not impossible but requires a lot of overbuilding in key areas.
Glad you weren't hurt any more badly than you were.
That has nothing to do with it being a two piece. It has everything to do with it being 87 lb and all actionwood through the sight window.
A heavy phenolic or ironwood I beam would be the order of the day.
I'm very thankful that you were not hurt. I have had more than a few of those stomach wounds. LOL It makes you a little touchy the next few times you draw a bow.
God bless, Steve
Yikes, sorry to hear that. Glad you are okay though.
Yikes! That must have been a shorts soiler!
I've only had one give out - a 52#er when a nock failed - and that was quite an attention getter.
A pity when they go.
Ouch...!!! Best part is you are ok. You can always get another bow. Take care!
......and a Border no less. I had a carbon limb fold up on me once. Scared me to death. Glad you weren't hurt too bad.
Ive had two do that. 60 lb but the exact same spot on my stmoch as yours. Knocked my glasses off and on one of them I have never found the string, no clue where it went.
Had that happen once glad you are OK. The website won't allow me to show my "winter grizzle"! :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
OUCH !
Man it's one thing to get whipped up on by your wife but never would think your bow would turn on ya! So glad it wasn't worse and you had your winter protection on!
Glad you are OK!
I had two brand new bows go like that many years ago. They weren't bows of my making, but two different TD systems that were improperly done. I have broken more than a couple of one piece bows too.
When done correctly, the takedown sleeve becomes the strongest part of the bow. Eliminating riser flex is key.
This looks like someone added the takedown as an after thought. There is no glass I beam in the riser to keep the riser from flexing.
Phenolic is a poor substitute for glass when trying to reduce flex, but even it would have helped.
I have never limited the draw weight on my two piece bows and never had an issue. I do have my limits however and they are above 90 lbs.
I expect that this bow done in the mid 50 lb range on down would have never had an issue.
Sorry for your loss,
BigJim
Glad ur OK.
Been there before! Glad you're OK
Eric
Glad there was no serious injury. I hope you get a new bow before you go on that elephant hunt. ;)
Tom, It always sucks when bows Blow.
I am glad you and Mike were not seriously injured.
Glad your okay. That looks painful in more than one way.
Whoa! Glad you weren't hurt worse, and sorry about the stick.
:scared: :pray:
Well, Marine,
Now that its well documented that you nor Mike were hurt, we can raz you a bit...
...as in, I ain't got no sympathy for anyone who can PULL a 87# bow getting hurt! :scared: :rolleyes:
Suck it up, Soldier!
What I want to know was the wife and girls along and, if so, how high did the li'l one I played with jump???
Seriously, that rather rips it and yet, you could have easily had a "pass thru" a vital organ down that way...
Someone is watching over ya, Pard!
Blessings, Brother...
Holy Crap!!!
Glad you're okay!
Hey Doc,
I got thick skin so you can go right ahead and raz away. I think the thick skin kept the pointy bow shards out of my vitals too. It just so happens all three of my lovely girls were there at Mike's enjoying Sue's homemade banana cake at the moment I was at full draw and the bow came apart. The little one just kept saying, "Daddy's OK, Daddy's OK".
You're right about someone watching over me. Mike too, he was just leaning in to look at my draw length on the measuring arrow. He somehow got his face out of the way just in time.
Aren't we due for another dinner soon?
Tom
I'm ready to visit with your clan of lovely people anytime...
I figured she'd have jumped higher than her height when that bow let go...
Praises to He who protects! You and Mike are most fortunate, but clean living and high ideals will do that for a person!
Read your PM's brother...
Good thing the gut got in the way, you could have been made a steer!
I have had many test bows blow up on me over the years and have a permanent reminder of a de-lam in my left palm from one.
Glad you walked away with only those minor injuries.
I was afraid to open this
But it looks like you'll be OK
Glad it wasnt worse
sucks about the bow, it was pretty
Yeah, sorry Slickhead. The "not for the faint of heart" bit was supposed to be a lighthearted jab at the state of my winter fitness. Also a commentary on the destruction of a beautiful bow.
Hope I didn't scare folks away.
Tom
10" down and 3" to your right and you'd still be on the floor...MAN! Catastrophic to say the least!
Sorry for your loss, hard to replace a bow you really liked and have it be the same.
Serves you right though...what the hell you doing shooting 87# anyway :eek:
Glad you're okay!
Kris
Its very rare comparably but occasionally bows break. It happens to most of us at one time or another.
Glad you are ok .
That is a great bowyer to offer full money back. Glad to hear you guys got it all worked out.
Also props to you for not blaming the bowyer. Wood is wood and sometimes it happens IMO. I really like how you handled it.
Pleased to hear that little bodily damage was sustained.
ah, if you're tough enough to pull an 87# bow, you're tough enough to take a punch in the gut! Glad you're ok.
good to know you survived it, sir.
Wow! Just drawing that monster would have broke me like a wishbone. Glad you're ok man!
Ouch. Glad your ok.
Been around and shooting bows all my life but this is the first I've heard of an "I" beam. Can someone enlighten me? .... Thanx
If you would've been a Super Stallion pilot the bow would not have broken out of respect. LOl Glad you are okay, I had a Herters recurve do that to me and still have the scar on my ribs.
Daniel, Daniel, Daniel... You had to go there? Just because a 53E can sling load a Phrog, doesn't make it a superior platform. I bet you can't trim yours up and go hands and feet off hover in ground effect.
Semper Fi.
Maj Tom
Used to be able to do that, because we had automatic flight systems. Been 20 years since I flew one. That phrog must be older than you because back then we had phrogs older than the pilots.
been there done that...not fun..glad you are not hurt too badly..mine broke my finger and gave me a similar bruise cross the chest