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Title: Wanna See Some Old Broad Heads?
Post by: Izzy on March 01, 2014, 05:59:00 PM
A friend of mine is an avid metal detector and  detects mostly close to our area. A couple of years ago he found a mess of stone artifacts at an undisclosed location.

   He went back with his metal detector and found a cache of these trade points, copper manufacture. They were evaluated by an expert and its suggested that they were brought here by the Dutch to trade with the Algonquians in the early 1600's.

   The 4 points in the pic were gifted to me and I framed them against buck skin. They are a prized possession in my man cave.   (http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o244/2crazyboys_photos/DSCN0020.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/2crazyboys_photos/media/DSCN0020.jpg.html)


     Anyway, I thought some of you would like to see a bit of archery history. Please feel free to post any bow hunting curiosities you might be hanging onto. It'll make spring get here faster.
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Post by: Hermon on March 01, 2014, 06:06:00 PM
That is very cool.  Thanks for sharing.
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Post by: Sean B on March 01, 2014, 06:19:00 PM
Cool as heck Izzy, probably traded out of Ft. Orange!!!  I love that stuff, I'm an amateur historian of the 17th and 18th centuries.
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Post by: stickem1 on March 01, 2014, 06:20:00 PM
That is amazing! A prize for sure.
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Post by: Ulysseys on March 01, 2014, 06:21:00 PM
Awesome!  Thanks for posting that - I love archery history.
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Post by: on March 01, 2014, 06:30:00 PM
Those are cool Izzy! I don't have anything older than about 1990!   :laughing:  

Bisch
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Post by: ChuckC on March 01, 2014, 06:32:00 PM
nice.  thanks for sharing

I wonder what the hole is for ?  Maybe to put on a string for transport (in bulk).

ChuckC
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Post by: glenbo on March 01, 2014, 06:36:00 PM
They are great Izzy. I love old things.
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Post by: FerretWYO on March 01, 2014, 06:39:00 PM
That's awesome izzy.
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Post by: frassettor on March 01, 2014, 07:48:00 PM
That's neat! I will post pics of my heads tomorrow
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Post by: kbetts on March 01, 2014, 07:58:00 PM
Awesome collection for a man cave.
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Post by: Cookus on March 01, 2014, 08:07:00 PM
Awesome Izzy!  I love how you framed them!
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Post by: Stumpkiller on March 01, 2014, 09:27:00 PM
Neat!

I have about 150 different old glue-on heads I have collected.  Couple guys hereabouts have thousands of different models.

Yours push the envelope WAY back!
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Post by: zipper bowss on March 01, 2014, 09:33:00 PM
Very Cool!!! Thanks for sharing that.
Bill
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Post by: Cyclic-Rivers on March 01, 2014, 09:44:00 PM
Neat stuff Izzy.  I miss having your buddy come to shoots.  Heck, I miss being at the shoots myself lol.
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Post by: TonyW on March 01, 2014, 09:58:00 PM
You might want to check this out. You have quite a find, for sure.

 http://scienceviews.com/squier/aboriginalmonumentsA-13.html  


  (http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z117/katswal/copperpoint_zps59e4f8ee.jpg) (http://s190.photobucket.com/user/katswal/media/copperpoint_zps59e4f8ee.jpg.html)

Figure 70 is a full-size engraving of one of the arrow-points discovered with a skeleton, near Fall River, Massachusetts, in the year 1831. With this skeleton were found a corroded plate of brass, supposed to have constituted a breastplate, and a number of rude tubes of the same metal, composing a sort of belt or cincture. The arrow-points are two inches in length, and one and one-third inches broad at the base. This skeleton attracted a good deal of attention at the time, and was supposed to lend some sanction to the then popular theory of the early discovery and settlement of the coast of New England by the Northmen.

...."The arrowheads are of brass, thin, flat, and triangular in shape, with a round hole cut through near the base. The shaft was fastened to the head by inserting the latter in an opening at the end of the wood, and then tying it with a sinew through the round hole,—a mode of constructing the weapon never practised by the Indians"
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Post by: TonyW on March 01, 2014, 10:37:00 PM
 (http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z117/katswal/brassarrowheads_zps923d7db9.jpg) (http://s190.photobucket.com/user/katswal/media/brassarrowheads_zps923d7db9.jpg.html)
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Post by: slim_grim on March 01, 2014, 10:47:00 PM
That's pretty incredible.   :thumbsup:
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Post by: Izzy on March 02, 2014, 09:43:00 AM
Wow Tony, great reading. I've seen some from western us that were very different but the ones in the write up are identical to mine.
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Post by: kat on March 02, 2014, 09:49:00 AM
Cool points. I really like the way you displayed them with a buckskin background.
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Post by: TonyW on March 02, 2014, 12:30:00 PM
Reproduction Wôbanaki arrowhead from 1700

http://www.memorialhall.mass.edu/activities/dressup/notflash/1700_wob_boy.html
 (http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z117/katswal/brassarrow_zps2cfe95c2.jpg) (http://s190.photobucket.com/user/katswal/media/brassarrow_zps2cfe95c2.jpg.html)
These arrows, called "pakual", have brass heads, which were much thinner and lighter than stone arrowheads. The brass heads were cut from a kettle.
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Post by: longbow fanatic 1 on March 02, 2014, 01:04:00 PM
So cool!
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Post by: centaur on March 02, 2014, 02:13:00 PM
Izzy,
Those are real treasures for folks like us. That is 'traditional archery' in the extreme.
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Post by: Wheels2 on March 02, 2014, 02:24:00 PM
The Native Americans used barrel hoops and wagon wheel rims as stock for arrow heads as well.  That is what these reminded me of at first.
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Post by: Mamba on March 02, 2014, 05:16:00 PM
That's pretty cool Izzy
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Post by: buckeyebowhunter on March 02, 2014, 07:11:00 PM
Wow that's is pretty spectacular, great find for sure!
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Post by: Sam McMichael on March 02, 2014, 07:16:00 PM
That is a really great find.