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Title: Nocking points
Post by: khall1 on February 16, 2014, 11:00:00 PM
Can you guys tell me the pros and cons of using a nocking point made with serving vs. a brass nock. I see a lot of people using the serving string but, It seems easier to use a brass nock for making adjustments.  What do you guys use?
Title: Re: Nocking points
Post by: canuck4570 on February 16, 2014, 11:32:00 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8EghWvyUcA&feature=youtu.be

take a look
Title: Re: Nocking points
Post by: Fastltz on February 16, 2014, 11:50:00 PM
String nock spins up and down very easy to adjust. Also lighter. I had trouble with the brass ones and tightness messing up accuracy.
Title: Re: Nocking points
Post by: TRAP on February 17, 2014, 12:40:00 AM
For me its a convenience thing.  I always have some serving thread, dental floss, or string material lying around that I can make a nock out of.

I was never good at removing brass nocks without sometimes damaging serving.

DD
Title: Re: Nocking points
Post by: Bowwild on February 17, 2014, 07:14:00 AM
Depending upon how you shoot the brass one can be abrasive on the inside of the index finger or top of middle finger. It can also damage the face, nose.

The reason NASPĀ® doesn't allow the brass NL for its 2.5 million kids each year is because, while extremely rare, it can come off, hit the riser, and bounce back in the eye. A 4-H shooter lost an eye several years to this. Of course that was a result of a careless install.
Title: Re: Nocking points
Post by: Gator1 on February 17, 2014, 10:25:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by TRAP:
For me its a convenience thing.  I always have some serving thread, dental floss, or string material lying around that I can make a nock out of.

I was never good at removing brass nocks without sometimes damaging serving.

DD
I agree with Trap, I've runied a few servings, removing the Brass Nocks. There are some great videos posted on a tie on Nock.  One trick I've found that I like, is to use a meterail larger than your serving diameter, when you tighten it up, is doesn't seperate your existing Serving. I've been using .030 Halo serving very successfully.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Nocking points
Post by: Keefer on February 17, 2014, 10:50:00 AM
I agree with Gator1 the .030 Halo is some good stuff for making a tie on nock and the "plus" side is you can adjust it up and down as needed...
Title: Re: Nocking points
Post by: Paul_R on February 17, 2014, 11:02:00 AM
I'm gonna try tying a nocking point one of these days but meanwhile I use brass. They work fine but ONLY with the proper tool and there's only one of those:

  Crimping tool (http://www.trufire.com/accessories.html)

Kinda pricy but no more than a roll of Halo. You can install perfect nocks every time without overcrimping and smashing the serving. And the best part is you can loosen, remove, and re-tighten without damaging or even leaving a mark on the serving or the nock.

You also need to have the right size nock points. I find mediums work on my 8 strand SBD's perfect. Nice and round with closed ends and no burrs or sharp edges.
Title: Re: Nocking points
Post by: Mr. fingers on February 17, 2014, 07:12:00 PM
I agree with all the above as far as simplicity for adjustments  and easier on the serving.
Also you will pick up some speed and they are quieter at the shot too.
One other plus to tie ons is less damage to gloves and tabs. Brass nocks if the seam is not lined up perfectly will make an edge that can tear up a glove or even a tab.
A spool of serving is so handy anyway.   :)
Title: Re: Nocking points
Post by: bisket on February 17, 2014, 11:56:00 PM
I was a brass nock user until I recently spent the big money on a American Leathers bigshot glove.  After about 50 shots I noticed discoloring on the bottom of the index finger ( I shoot split) from where the nock was rubbing and decided it was time to try the tie on nocks to keep from ruining it.  My last glove wore out due to this same rub mark.  I like how they work.  Can twist them up and down when tuning and also seem to get a cleaner release.  I won't go back.
-Mark
Title: Re: Nocking points
Post by: Bldtrailer on February 18, 2014, 12:17:00 AM
Brass nock you NEED a tool & store bought nocks,& adds weight to string.
I've made string nocks from all sorts of string ,fishing line , dental floss, kite string,  parachute cord inner line, old bow string strands ...   :readit:   ... almost any thing you have.
I always use 2
Title: Re: Nocking points
Post by: Uncle Buck on February 18, 2014, 06:00:00 AM
I tie most of mine with dental floss, Besides all of the reasons above there is also the "cool" factor.
Title: Re: Nocking points
Post by: KOOK68 on February 18, 2014, 01:52:00 PM
I switched to string because the brass nock was tearing a hole in my shooting glove
Title: Re: Nocking points
Post by: longstiks on February 18, 2014, 06:45:00 PM
I agree with canuck4570 This is the easiest and best working tie on there is that I've tried. Watch the vidio and it's apiece of cake!
Denny
Title: Re: Nocking points
Post by: Bear Heart on February 18, 2014, 06:56:00 PM
B50 is great nock tying material.  Save an old string and you will have a lifetime supply of it.
Title: Re: Nocking points
Post by: TxAg on February 18, 2014, 09:47:00 PM
I love using old string material. Smaller, looks better, less wear and tear, not tools, and i like to use one on top and one on bottom.
Title: Re: Nocking points
Post by: bbold on February 19, 2014, 06:38:00 PM
I've had two strings break over time and I beleive it was from using brass nocks
Title: Re: Nocking points
Post by: slim_grim on February 19, 2014, 11:09:00 PM
I've never ordered any brass nocks because I'm wildly impatient and I always have a spool of B50 or an old string laying around. Not to mention, I kinda get a kick out off knowing that I tied the nocking point on.
Title: Re: Nocking points
Post by: petalumapete on February 20, 2014, 02:02:00 AM
One thing to be careful of when tying on the nocking point is. If you use super glue to keep it in place not to let it soak through the serving.

I made that mistake and had two great strings break right at the tie on. I found out later when I mentioned it to the gent who made the strings that the drip can cause a hard spot in the string causing it to break.
Thankfully my mistake was covered under the warrentee. I now use a brass knocking point and have not had a problem with breakage.
Title: Re: Nocking points
Post by: Shakes.602 on February 20, 2014, 06:31:00 AM
At one time I was a Big Fan of the Crimp on Brass Nock Points, that was until I  CUT  my Bowstring trying to get the dang thing  OFF!!   :scared:    :knothead:    I learned Real Fast how to  TIE  a Nock Point on and have never looked back!!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Nocking points
Post by: RETARMY06 on February 20, 2014, 10:44:00 PM
Dental floss. Once I test it out and it's okay, I put a drop of Crazy Glue on it to keep it from unraveling. No tools needed except for fingernail trimmers/scissors.
Title: Re: Nocking points
Post by: laserman on February 21, 2014, 07:07:00 AM
I think the string nock looks better. Besides I just learned to serve a string and now I look for things to tie. Good thing I don't have a pet with a long tail or he might have a nock point  tied in. Also point can be moved without having to re crimp.
Title: Re: Nocking points
Post by: Homebru on February 22, 2014, 05:39:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by canuck4570:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8EghWvyUcA&feature=youtu.be  

take a look
Thanks for sharing this.  First one went on perfect.  Second one was too tight.  Now I just need to mount my    RPM Slicks (http://www.rpmbowfishing.com/slicks/)  and I'll be all set.
homebru