Okay so he's been watching me shoot for a while and asked for a bow for his birthday. His parents have been going through some hard times and asked me to help with his request. I am giving him one of my bear grizzly recurves and a few shafts. It would be great if any of you could help with the things he needs. Pm me to get the address. I'll have him join the sight also to thank all of you when his birthday comes around. Here's what he needs
-feathers
-field points and broad heads
-glove/tab size m
-any hunting knives or calls
-string silencers
-arrow components
-arrow rest
PM sent.
CLOSED, the guys in the leather wall + Sean b covered the list.
TTT - Justin, you were from NY last week, how was the move to Utah?
Oops
good catch Hobow. I noticed that myself.
This is a new scourge sweeping the internet lately. Good guys like Shawn and everyone else who help out without question are always willing to lend a hand to fellow Americans on hard time and these predators know what they can get from some of the hunting forums.
Good catch for sure fellas. Sad that this has become an issue.
Wow, I'd like to have a man to man with you Mr. Vinci.
There's a whole issue with this guy collecting free stuff over on the *********** currently. He goes by "Traditionalist" there, but his name is logged as Justin Vinci from New York. Claims to not know the Justin Vinci here, since he's from Utah (suddenly).
on one post he is a 14 year old teenage boy but his profile picture on here is a bearded young man. got a LOT of folks confused for sure.
He needs a Glasgow smile to help pick him out in a crowd. Come to Indiana Vinci I have a free one here for you.
Okay guys I'm beyond sorry for what I did to justin vinci, who is the real boy who is recieving these items. I was wrong to take it into my hands instead of letting him do it for himself. I made many feel like they were scammed by providing the falsified info to them. It whatever you do, don't hate on the boy. He's commented on this thread and started a new thread introducing himself. I was wrong. If you have any more questions or would like to talk to the boy, he's made himself an account. His account is justin vinci. I am sorry for putting the stress on all of you and for putting the bad memo out for justin. I will seek to having this account disabled from tradgang also. Just want to say sorry for this, as justin ran over and was in tears about what I had done. My actions where wrong and I don't know how I'm going to ever make it back to him. Everything that was donated has been donated to the boy. These were made for him to use and I thought it would be good for him to use them. If you would like to see or contact the buy, there's a tread on leather wall about this.
so...if he is Justin Vinci...who are you?
The Justin Vinci who is apologizing on the other place is from NY, according to the user profile over there. You are from Utah, according to your profile here.
:dunno: Im not a wealthy man but if I had a young guy like that Id do my best to help him myself, especially as a new member.
I once had the misfortune of a TG sponsor gifting me an item to give to a son of newly divorced parents. Long story short, I could not keep my end of the bargain when the young man became elusive and I could not photograph him using the item.
The item was given to me without solicitation upon the vendor hearing of this young mans plight.
Since that time, I have been extra careful how I post in the classifieds. Too many good people here (if thats possible), and almost any of them go above and beyond helping others even without being asked.
What Im saying is, if you know a person who needs a hand and you could take care of it yourself, maybe you should instead of asking for handouts.
I appreciate the apology but you put a bad taste in peoples mouth with your "well intended" hoax. Give up a night on the town and buy the poor guy what he needs with the money you saved. You'll feel better about yourself and this deal that you've created.
If the real you gets to know this forum, you will see that its a real community despite of it being on the internet and we like to take care and look out for each other when possible. Thats where I'm coming from.
Izzy I understand you completely, believe me if I had the money to id buy the kid his hole setup, but I didn't have the money. Theres videos of the boy using the items that was sent to him too btw
Justin, you really need to stop this charade. Your profile on the other site says you are from NY and you are Justin himself. Here you say you are from Utah and are acting like you are Justin's neighbor, Mark. What gives dude?
This is all very bizarre. My curiosity got up on this for some reason, so I looked through the various threads with posts by "Justin Vinci" here, and "Traditionalist" over on the LW.
One thing I noticed was that the blanket in a photo from a "What bow is this" thread started by Justin Vinci [From: Utah] dated Oct. 21, 2013, is the same as the blanket/sheet in the background of a photo from Feb. 25, 2014, of the young man in the thread on the LW.
The photobucket link [ http://s768.photobucket.com/user/vincikids/library/?sort=3&page=1 ] in the "What bow is this" thread also has pics with the same blanket/sheet in the background. There are also some other things in the photobucket pics that may have curious contents in light of this bizarre situation involving Rick Wallace, justin vinci, Justin Vinci ["From: Utah"], etc. (i.e., a recurve (camo riser?) with quiver and what appear to be full-metal jacket arrows, a number of other trad bows (8), a compound, some aluminum arrows, a shooting glove? [different from the glove in the Youtube vid?]).
The shoe on the foot of the person in the pic in the "What bow is this" thread also appears to be a shoe most likely worn by a teenage person (not an adult neighbor) -- that is the most reasonable inference anyway. The shoes/laces also appear to match the "Vans" shoe in one of the photobucket pics.
This is all "head scratchin'" stuff. Not sure why I posted this, just couldn't help myself. Like others have concluded, it just doesn't seem like there is any "adult neighbor" involved here???
Hmm, now you removed your location from your profile. Hey Justin, or Mark, what gives?
http://tradgang.com/noncgi/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=134652;p=1#000000
http://imgur.com/LSpXo6j
http://imgur.com/qUGj0tD
What appears to be the camo riser recurve (from the photobucket pics) in the teen, Justin Vinci's room (same floor covering - carpet/rug) . . . as of at least January 3, 2014. "His Martin Jaguar." This is not the bow he is shooting in the Youtube vid - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVZgJkZVd0Q .
http://tradgang.com/noncgi/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=132643;p=1#000000
http://tradgang.com/noncgi/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=134433;p=1#000000
http://tradgang.com/noncgi/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=134562;p=1#000000
...hmmm, is right.
Something smells awful bad here.
Pretty fishy I'd say. The posts on LW have been closed.
Well that says it all then, total scam!
The YouTube is no good either
Yeah, kind of smells like fraud . . . the donated stuff should be returned. Taking advantage of the generosity of others is just flat wrong.
The cylinder that is partially shown in one of the pics on Justin Vinci's photobucket is shown in a pic on the LW in a post by "Traditionalist" from Jan. 1, 2014 (in a thread "Arrow shafts"). It shows it in the same bedroom as the one the kid is in (not an "adult neighbor"), and the other photobucket pics, and it is full of misc. arrows.
"Vincikids's" photobucket appears to have been emptied now. Hard to not infer culpability from that.
I am Soooooooo Cornfuzed!! Ya know, ya just cant Trust just everybody anymore. Sad State it is, Very Sad. :( I Appreciate the Folks that have Helped Me out through the Years, and I am Willing to Help a Guy/Gal get started with whatever I have to Offer. BUT................ SCAMS are a BAD Thing!! NOTHING Worse than Being Lied To!! :mad:
It does smell fishy. I didn't send anything to him. He did give me a mailing address which happens to be about a 20 min drive from me in NY. I'm either going to check it out myself or have a friend of mine who is a state Trooper in that area check him out. It's funny too, that the "teens" name is the same as his. And the address he gave me is one of the wealthiest communities in the entire COUNTRY!!!
The thing that burns my @$$ is that I put out a similar post over the summer. TG members came out of the woodwork to help. Now, it turned out to be a bust as the the moms boyfriend didn't want the kids hanging with a cop. But the stuff that was given to me, I donated to the JLMBH St Jude's raffle.
Stuff like this makes it hard for the people who really want to help.
Hope you guys find the real truth on this. Ive been following this thread and cant believe someone would do this to a community like this. To brighten everyone up a little thank you for all you guys have helped with info wise. Thanks to this group and this sight I have became a better hunter since loseing my wheels and enough knowledge to pass along to help others out. Thanks
This all seems super crappy...
To brighten some moods I am gonna share my trad hard up story-
After getting banged up over seas on a NG deployment I spent the next couple years having 6 surgeries and insane amounts of physical therapy. All of this immediately after getting married, having my first child, and just having bought a new home. I had 0 income and a new family depending on me all during a time that I couldn't even force myself to walk without a limp without undergoing immeasurable pain.
I lived by using my savings money and using it to day trade on the stock market for a bit. Another surgery during that time and I was unable to keep up with the market enough to make any money. Another 6 months and the savings went dry. When I was able between all the medical crap I took whatever work I could get to try and pay down some of the credit we were scraping by on.
I took a 3 month civilian contractor gig in Iraq and was able to pay down some of our credit debt we were using to survive. During that time there were Golden Jackals everywhere (I could have hunted them from the door to my room)and I though to myself,"I need a bow to take with me on these trips so I can try to do a little hunting on these military posts without getting shot at.
I get home and all the money I made had been used solely to pay off a little bit of our growing mountain of debt(talk about feeling helpless). There was no way I could even think about affording a compound bow(all I thought there was at the time), but I remembered an old browning recurve I had in the back of a closet.
I posted to a MS forum I enjoyed call bullnettlenews.com (great forum for south easterners) asking if anyone could do anything with a recurve. A fella named stringwacker started posting pictures of ever critter known to man he had shot with them. He then invited me over and offered to help me get set up. Its hard to remember but I think I may have eluded t the fact that I was in dark times and couldn't afford much.
I drove the hour drive to his house thinking that I shouldn't be burning the $$ in gas and those few dollars should be going to feeding my family instead. My wife made me go though.
I pull up into his driveway driving a new looking (i take care of my stuff) BMW 5series (times were good before I got hurt and could afford it then, after the injury I couldn't afford it, but couldn't afford to be without a vehicle either). Mark comes out and of course taking note of the fine car I am driving(he could have easily thought I was some sapsucker trying to get something for free). He didn't judge though. Instead he took me in, taught me how to straighten the limbs on my old bow, taught how to shoot, and sent me home with a hand me down glove, some 175gr field points, some 175gr zwickey broad heads, and a couple arrows. I shot those 2 arrows for a long time.
Eventually I was able to buy me a half dozen easton game getters. A couple years later my disability finally came in from the VA. I eventually healed up, sort of. I have since started my own company, paid off all our debt, and am able to provide for my family once again and have a stable life.
I have since lost the arrows Mark gave me, moved on to a better set up and everything else. But I still shoot with that glove most of the time and it serves as a content reminder. What Mark did for me was the single greatest act of kindness anyone has ever done for me, and it was in my lifes darkest hour when I didn't see a light at the end of any tunnel. The time following that day meeting Mark was mainly spent shooting that bow, and it became a lot more to me than just trad shooting. It was an escape from some dark stuff going on inside of me.
Without those freedoms that that bow provided me I don't know where I would be today, if here at all.
I know that no one understands, but that simple gesture of kindness and the freedom it gave me, provided me with a solid footing in my darkest hour. Thank you Mark.
Moral of my story: Don't let some shady business make you afraid of helping someone, especially in person. What is a simple gesture t you may be a lot more to someone else.
great post. that will ease alot of minds.
While I have sold three bows on here, I would have had more fun if I gave them away. A few years ago, I posted a free bow available on the LW. The only thing I asked was that it go to someone that had someone else that was in need and would help that person with the things that did not go along with the bow, like a shooting tab and cut the arrows to length,ect. I got totally flooded, I am still not sure, if I was hoaxed or not by the recipient. Since then, I only give bows, arrows and archery supplies in person. Even then, locally, I set up a kid with a complete Hill package and I had well off compound shooters come to my door. The rumor was that I was quitting and giving it all away. The truth was I paid $450 for the bow, built the arrows and bought new leather goods from Hill archery. One said and I quote " I'm not sure your junk is worth my time, but I wanta check it out first before I agree to take it off your hands." The other said, "you don't want it to go someone that don 't know how to hunt." They then proceeded to tell me how much land that they had locked up just for them, so that was why they should have first pick. They did get off my property unharmed.
Christopher, thank you.
This is the kind of stuff that was happening on the classifieds....now looks like this is the 1st one trying it on the PowWow...
I need for every true loving member of TradGang to be aware to alert us of these type of threads....we don't do give aways or pleads for items for this very reason.
This member has been banned.
Thanks,
T