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Title: Blackwidow PL or Mohawk longbow
Post by: Mississippi bow hunter on February 01, 2014, 10:08:00 PM
I know that the mohawk is a mild reflex deflex and the widow is more radical. I was wondering how these two bows would compare. Fit & finish, shooting characteristics and which would be just more enjoyable to shoot. I have spoken to both companies and both were very helpful. I will be hunting and shooting 3D with this bow. Maybe some of y'all have had both. Thanks for any information.
Title: Re: Blackwidow PL or Mohawk longbow
Post by: Hermon on February 01, 2014, 10:14:00 PM
If you could fine an example of each near you to shoot would be the best way for you to choose.  

Both bows have excellent reputations and make superior products.  

I know that doesn't help you out, but either you chose, you will get a great bow.
Title: Re: Blackwidow PL or Mohawk longbow
Post by: ron w on February 01, 2014, 10:27:00 PM
I have an older BW LAG T/D and a Mohawk T/D both at about the same poundage. If I was going hunting which one would I take? Both.....one to hunt with and one as back up, both shoot well and I'm sure either would do the job. So I guess I really didn't answer your question....lol!
Title: Re: Blackwidow PL or Mohawk longbow
Post by: Archie on February 01, 2014, 10:30:00 PM
I've never handled a Mohawk, but I couldn't be happier with my Widow PL.  It was a great bow, and accompanied me on a 13-day Alaska backcountry hunt this past September.  Shoots extremely well!
Title: Re: Blackwidow PL or Mohawk longbow
Post by: shag08 on February 01, 2014, 10:31:00 PM
I have a Widow PL and I LOVE it.  One of my favorite bows to shoot. But I haven't ever shot a Mohawk so I don't guess I'm much help either lol.
Title: Re: Blackwidow PL or Mohawk longbow
Post by: cmh on February 01, 2014, 10:55:00 PM
I miss my Mohawk longbow..... Was one of the best shooting bows I ever owned and I foolishly sold it  :(
Title: Re: Blackwidow PL or Mohawk longbow
Post by: Mississippi bow hunter on February 01, 2014, 10:55:00 PM
They both have such great reviews. I did shoot a widow five or six years ago,I thought it shot really nice. The Mohawk looks sharp with the bamboo that Vince uses. I will keep doing my research. Maybe at the spring fling in Alabama, I will be able to shoot one or the other.
Title: Re: Blackwidow PL or Mohawk longbow
Post by: Hermon on February 01, 2014, 10:59:00 PM
Vince's website still says he isn't taking orders.  Has that changed?
Title: Re: Blackwidow PL or Mohawk longbow
Post by: Mississippi bow hunter on February 01, 2014, 11:22:00 PM
He told me that he was going to start building a few. He said he had several irons in the fire. I think if you call him,be patient and let him take his time, he will build them. They look like they are top notch bows.
Title: Re: Blackwidow PL or Mohawk longbow
Post by: BOHO on February 01, 2014, 11:25:00 PM
I have a t/d Widow 62" and 52@28. I live in vicksburg and work in clinton. your welcome to shoot it if your close. Its awesome !!!
Title: Re: Blackwidow PL or Mohawk longbow
Post by: Mississippi bow hunter on February 02, 2014, 12:19:00 AM
Thanks, I might just take you up on that offer. I am in central MS not far at all.
Title: Re: Blackwidow PL or Mohawk longbow
Post by: Lamey on February 02, 2014, 01:38:00 AM
very different bows.... each is very good in its own venue.
Title: Re: Blackwidow PL or Mohawk longbow
Post by: finkm1 on February 02, 2014, 08:32:00 AM
If you have $1000.00 burning a hole in your pocket then by all means buy a Widow PL. I shot them at K-ZOO and they shoot great. Never shot a Mohawk but a lot of people like them.
Title: Re: Blackwidow PL or Mohawk longbow
Post by: KAZ on February 02, 2014, 08:35:00 AM
I have shot several Black Widow PL longbows and in my opinion they are considerably smoother and more bow than the Mohawk... I had done research, read reviews, and then took a beautiful Mohawk for a test drive. Both are beautiful and well made, however the PL rose to the top for me. They are different so shooting both and deciding what best meets your needs would be good.
Title: Re: Blackwidow PL or Mohawk longbow
Post by: KAZ on February 02, 2014, 08:44:00 AM
If you don't have $1,000 dollars burning a hole for a new PL, they can be had used for $650 on up depending on age & wood types... I've seen them for less but it's more rare and usually the bow is less "mainstream" configuration.... Just a thought as the used ones shoot as good as the new ones. If you've got the money, by all means go for it! The Black Widow folks are awesome to deal with...
Title: Re: Blackwidow PL or Mohawk longbow
Post by: frassettor on February 02, 2014, 08:48:00 AM
I own 2 PLs and I will tell you that they are bombproof and a joy to shoot.
Title: Re: Blackwidow PL or Mohawk longbow
Post by: Hermon on February 02, 2014, 08:49:00 AM
Don't know if it is too late already, but there is a heck of a deal on a sparrowhawk on the classifieds right now.
Title: Re: Blackwidow PL or Mohawk longbow
Post by: Mississippi bow hunter on February 02, 2014, 10:16:00 AM
What are the specs on the mohawk for sale?
Title: Re: Blackwidow PL or Mohawk longbow
Post by: Friend on February 02, 2014, 10:25:00 AM
This prized offering has been sold,
A great opportunity.
Title: Re: Blackwidow PL or Mohawk longbow
Post by: joe ashton on February 02, 2014, 10:28:00 AM
Hi
I've had both. As stated above both are great bows.  Both  shot well.  I loved the D shape of the Mohawk and I 'think' it was a little smoother to draw but the BW is a little milder at release. My perception is that the BW is a bit faster but I never ran a chronograph comparison of the 2.   I had success  on mule deer, whitetail and elk with both.  
Joe
Title: Re: Blackwidow PL or Mohawk longbow
Post by: Mississippi bow hunter on February 02, 2014, 03:59:00 PM
Joe what is your draw length?
Title: Re: Blackwidow PL or Mohawk longbow
Post by: bentpole on February 02, 2014, 05:56:00 PM
Let me say threw Trad Gang I became friends with Vince and actually met him once.I have owned at least 6 Mohawks and only 1 PL. That being said let me tell you a true story. After owning 3 or 4 Mohawks, I decided to sell them to get a Widow PLV that I always wanted. I figured I was getting up in age, been working like a dog 6 days a week I was do. It was to be my Holy Grail of bows.Well I received my PLV. I told Vince. He basically said you'll be back. Time passed. I get a call from Vince he says Hey Pollack there's a Mohawk in the classifieds for sale. If you don't buy it I'll buy the darn thing back! I think it was a 62"'er around 50#'s @ my 27" draw. All Tonkin Cane limbs [the best IMHO] with a cocoabolla riser or might have been 2 tone cocoabolla/ bacote I believe. Well I bought it. Needless to say the next season I carried that Mohawk into the deer woods while the PLV hung in the garage. I sold the PLV shortly after. After that I  always had  3 Mohawks. A TD and a Sparrowhawk besides the 62"'er. You will have a hard time to find a finer person/bowyer than Vince. Now as far as the PL they are fantastic bows too. I just felt more comfortable with the Mohawk. They just fit me like a glove. I was lucky to have the same hand dimensions as Vince if it felt good to him it was perfect for me. The Widow is bow perfection quality wise. You can't get any closer to perfect as far as workmanship. Everyone is different though. I would consider a try before you buy PL. The Folks at Black Widow are first class too. You and I just missed a fine deal of a beautiful  Sparrowhawk in the classifieds.Beautiful bow! I would see if I could buy a used Mohawk. Shoot it and decide for yourself. Mohawks are working man friendly too as far as price.
Title: Re: Blackwidow PL or Mohawk longbow
Post by: cmh on February 02, 2014, 06:08:00 PM
;)
Title: Re: Blackwidow PL or Mohawk longbow
Post by: bentpole on February 02, 2014, 06:10:00 PM
By the way if you look at my avatar picture I'm wearing a Mohawk T shirt and holding a black Mohawk. That bow was the first black/grey actionwood riser bow Vince ever built. Also the first with Black Glass limbs. I killed a fine 6pt Buck the next season with that bow.
Title: Re: Blackwidow PL or Mohawk longbow
Post by: Mississippi bow hunter on February 02, 2014, 06:24:00 PM
Bentpole,
                  Thank you for your story. That is one of the Awesome things about traditional archery. I have meet some of the nicest people. I did talk to Vince on the phone he was very helpful. I need to find a mohawk in Mississippi that I can shoot. Blackwidow is going be at the Alabama spring fling,I can shoot a PL there. Thanks for all the information.
Title: Re: Blackwidow PL or Mohawk longbow
Post by: Brock on February 02, 2014, 10:34:00 PM
I got my Mohawk unintentionally after looking for a Robertson Purist or one of his newer models...  One came up for sale....I read Rob Distefano's post on testing the Sparrowhawk...and decided what could I lose.

After knowing nothing about them I quickly became someone that is a fan.  The bamboo limbs...the mild reflex...it is a sweet shooting bow.  I likely will still pick up a Robertson as I have always loved his bows....but only own or owned the recurves.

If you get a chance to shoot both I think you would be happy with either...for me the Mohawk is just a little better all around...speed is not everything to me though the Sparrowhawk is plenty fast.
Title: Re: Blackwidow PL or Mohawk longbow
Post by: bentpole on February 03, 2014, 06:21:00 AM
:campfire:    :coffee:
Title: Re: Blackwidow PL or Mohawk longbow
Post by: Mississippi bow hunter on February 03, 2014, 09:21:00 PM
How many laminations does a PL have. Just curious. I know the mohawk sparrowhawk has five laminations.