I have a PCH and a KB. I love both bows! Just wondering how the PA compares? The PCH and KB that I own are both 58 inches long and 50lbs at 28. I Really have not noticed much of a diffrence between the two. The PCH has a little more mass but both shoot about the same. I shoot three under and use the gap method. Both bows use the same cant and have the same point of impact. I can easily use eighter and hit without any ajustment.
What can I expect from the PA? Thanks in advance gentlmen.
It's got a larger sight window, which might affect your cant, or not. Of course you'd probably want the PA a bit longer than the PCH/KB as well, with the longer riser, in order to keep about the same amount of working limb. And the PA is cut a bit more past center, so you'd likely need a stiffer arrow than you are currently using, or else build your side plate out.
Anybody else?
I owned a 58" PA, that I drew 27" and it was probably my favorite bow. Wish I had kept it. I've also owned a KB and have shot the PCH. They are all great, but I really preferred the PA.
I've not had the opportunity to shoot the KB or the PCH...but they are both on my bow bucket list. I do own a PGA which is the model the PA is modeled after. And I'll have to say that I love it. It shoots just like my old SA takedown (which I wish I had never parted with).
As has already been stated, it does have a larger sight window which I kinda like. Mine is 60" and it took a little experimentation for me to get it quitened down. Great bows. You won't be disappointed should you decide to purchase.
Ttt
I have a PA-X and I like that the riser is on the heavy side, bow is quick but you need a high brace height to quiet it down.
Two words Freakin Awesome.
I am playing with a 60" PA and 60" PSA and have shot the PCH as well. The PA is 53@28 and PSA is 52@28. Both shoot the same arrow and are awesome! The PA is a little lighter but shoots just as well. I feel it's a personal preference as to which you want to shoot. I really love both of them. The PA is a sweet bow!
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I've owned PSAIII, PCHIII, and PA Cocobolo. I liked the PA best. I like the look of the 1-piece. I can't say it shot any differently. My PA was a 58".
If I ever buy another Widow it will be a PAII, probably 60".
like shag08 i HAD a PGA i bought new, i loved that bow and killed a couple deer with it, but could never get it as quiet as my PSA's and sold it because of that, i REALLY wish i had just been more patient and worked on it more.. i would Love to have that bow back. if i were to buy another bow it would probably be a PAX osage...
Thanks for all the great info! For you guys that have shot a KB and PCH, what was diffrent about the PA, good or bad!
Ttt
I have them all. They all shoot the same tune easily and shoot a wide variety of arrows. The one pieces look better imo and are slightly quieter. I shoot a canted bow and have never had a problem with sight window. The PA is probably my favorite because I like a little heavier mass weight bow. You will be more than happy with whichever decision you make.
I love the PA, but gotta get my hands on a KB somehow.
If your draw length is 28", then I believe the 62" PA is the best handling recurve you'd ever find. They all shoot very well, but the 62"er is just an excellent handling bow with the longer PA riser.
Both my KB and PCH are 58 inches long. I love that length and really would like to stay there. My draw length is just shy of 28.
Can I stay at 58 with a PA and still have good performance?
Ttt
I don't see why a 28" draw would be a problem with a 58" PA. BW says in the catalogue 58" limbs will work for 25" to 29" draw lengths.
I've never owned a 58" Widow but I do own all kinds of other manufacturers bows in 58" and shorter. I draw around 27". I always have to keep a check on my finger placement or I'll pinch the nock...but that's just me, I've pinched em on 70" bows.
I don't think a PA will stack on you and, as long as you watch your fingers on the string, it won't pinch. I'd say go with the 58" PA. If I wanted one and could afford it at the moment, I'd have one on my bow rack.
You already know the quality of the bows that BW turns out. You will not be disappointed with a 58" PA!
Ttt
Thanks again for all the great insight! Plz keep it coming!
The catalogue I just received in the mail says a 25-29" draw works well for the PSA, not the PMA. The PMA states 24-28" for 58" limbs.
I own two 60" widows, an SA and an HS. My MA with it's longer riser is a 62" bow. I draw exactly 28" with the widow grips. I've shot MAs with 60" limbs and they work fine, but the 62"er is just so much smoother for me.
If I was going to order a new widow and didn't want the limbs to be longer than 58", I'd stay with the SA or PCH. That's just me though.
Hey Foxbo. Everything you said is spot on and accurate. I think the OP is more interested in the PA series though. Check out page 17 of their current catalogue.
QuoteOriginally posted by KillerBee:
Both my KB and PCH are 58 inches long. I love that length and really would like to stay there. My draw length is just shy of 28.
Can I stay at 58 with a PA and still have good performance?
Yes, you can stay @58" with the PA and still have great performance! As stated above, if you stay within Black Widow's draw length recommendations you're good... The choice is yours on the "feel" you're looking for OR the benefits of mobility with shorter lengths. All 3 of those bows are NOT the same @58"length... In terms of "perceived draw length feel", the KB would be smoothest feel, the PCH 2nd, and the PA third at any given length. That being said, ALL are within recommendations for your draw length at a 58" bow so it all comes down to what YOU want out of the new PA. The catalog does a great job of showing riser lengths, mass weights, draw length recommendations, brace-heights, etc. for all models so it's a great resource... Also, taking a test drive is another option to solidify your decision.... Enjoy the process and your new bow! :-)
Well thanks for the contributions gents. I think I will test drive a PA.