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Title: Montana vs. Savannah vs. Maddog
Post by: Jono on January 07, 2014, 06:49:00 PM
Hi everyone,

My name is Jono from Sydney Australia.

I have been shooting longbow for about 6 months, shooting abit of recurve before that.

I only shot low range production bow like samick/wolf custom etc.

Recently, I am looking to change my longbow between bear montana and martin savannah, I heard alot of good comments between both (more on savannah) or Maddog bow ???

But over here in Sydney, a montana will cost me 500+ while savannah will cost me 700+ ...

Additionally, I have really bad issues with string plucking, my wrist are straight, deep hook, 2nd anchor point follow thru.

I shoot 30# cause its more challenging (do have a 55#) with wooden arrow.

So bottom line is that, which bow would be the best for three finger under glove shooter ?

Many Many Thanks
Title: Re: Montana vs. Savannah vs. Maddog
Post by: JamesKerr on January 07, 2014, 06:53:00 PM
I don't own a Savannah but I have shot a few and I really don't think it is really any better of a bow then the Montana. The Montana is a really stable, smooth drawing, shock free bow that is really tough as well. It's a great hunting bow because it is so stable and tough enough to hold up to shots that end up with a limb hitting the stand or what I am using mine now for bowfishing. All in all you can't go wrong with a Montana.
Title: Re: Montana vs. Savannah vs. Maddog
Post by: ron w on January 07, 2014, 07:20:00 PM
Either will work fine......just don't jump up to much in poundage to quick......work your way up!
Title: Re: Montana vs. Savannah vs. Maddog
Post by: gonefishing600 on January 07, 2014, 08:52:00 PM
I would go with the Maddog. Because it's custom, you just can't beat a custom bow! I have owned 2 Savannah's, and 1 Montana. Like I said, you can't beat a custom bow!

Hope this helps!
Title: Re: Montana vs. Savannah vs. Maddog
Post by: Jono on January 07, 2014, 09:34:00 PM
Time to get in contact with Mike =D
Title: Re: Montana vs. Savannah vs. Maddog
Post by: 4dogs on January 07, 2014, 09:47:00 PM
Maddog is the way to go...better bow, to your specs,very comparible costs and personal service.    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Montana vs. Savannah vs. Maddog
Post by: Stix on January 07, 2014, 09:56:00 PM
With a Maddog you can get a thumbrest grip which is the single best option for grip consistency and accuracy.
Title: Re: Montana vs. Savannah vs. Maddog
Post by: hedgerowhuntr on January 07, 2014, 10:00:00 PM
No doubt Mike makes a great bow! If you have something specific you want in a bow custom is the way to go. As far as the other two goes I do prefer shooting the bear, it's a little longer and smoother. I think the Martin has a little more snap.
Title: Re: Montana vs. Savannah vs. Maddog
Post by: Bud B. on January 07, 2014, 10:15:00 PM
I was out shooting my dual shelf Prairie Predator today in the low temps. I have not shot a Montana or a Savannah, but the Prairie Predator is a mighty fine bow and it was hitting quite accurately for me even out to 25 yards. I usually practice at 15. If the handle was just a tad larger it would fit me better, but a leather wrap will take care of that.

I'd say Maddog. Mike is a great bowyer with customer service at the top of his list.
Title: Re: Montana vs. Savannah vs. Maddog
Post by: Jono on January 07, 2014, 10:36:00 PM
Thank you all for the comments, does mike ship oversea ?
Title: Re: Montana vs. Savannah vs. Maddog
Post by: NBK on January 07, 2014, 10:52:00 PM
Maddog simply because you're dealing with the guy making the bow for you, however you want it.
Good luck!
Title: Re: Montana vs. Savannah vs. Maddog
Post by: johnnyk71 on January 07, 2014, 11:19:00 PM
go with the Maddog. for the same price or less (depending on shipping) you can get a custom bow that is worked out to your specs.

Can't go wrong with one of Mike's bows.
Title: Re: Montana vs. Savannah vs. Maddog
Post by: Bud B. on January 07, 2014, 11:42:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Jono:
Thank you all for the comments, does mike ship oversea ?
Mike@MaddogArchery.com

www.maddogarchery.com (http://www.maddogarchery.com)

Email Mike. He'll get back with you quickly.
Title: Re: Montana vs. Savannah vs. Maddog
Post by: Jono on January 08, 2014, 06:19:00 AM
Waiting for mike's reply.

Thank you all for the right direction.

Much Appreicate it! Happy Shooting!
Title: Re: Montana vs. Savannah vs. Maddog
Post by: Slickhead on January 08, 2014, 08:49:00 AM
IMO a custom bow will do nothing more than an off the shelf bow.
90% of the time its the man behind the bow, not the bow
With that being said custom is custom to your wishes.
Title: Re: Montana vs. Savannah vs. Maddog
Post by: gonefishing600 on January 08, 2014, 09:07:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Slickhead:
IMO a custom bow will do nothing more than an off the shelf bow.
90% of the time its the man behind the bow, not the bow
With that being said custom is custom to your wishes.
And how many custom bows have you owned?
Title: Re: Montana vs. Savannah vs. Maddog
Post by: laserman on January 08, 2014, 10:59:00 AM
I've owned a Montana and a savannah. Both shoot good but the Montana seemed to scratch a lot easier. Anything I bumped it against left mark.  Not so with the savannah. The savannah is also a lot prettier. Don't know about mad dog.
Title: Re: Montana vs. Savannah vs. Maddog
Post by: awbowman on January 08, 2014, 04:01:00 PM
I would go with the custom bow simply because it can be built to your specs.  Quality control is better also
Title: Re: Montana vs. Savannah vs. Maddog
Post by: slim_grim on January 10, 2014, 12:25:00 PM
I had a chance to shoot a 60" Maddog Prairie Predator earlier in the week. On Maddog's website it's advertised as "a favorite for ladies, youths and other adults with a short draw length". I have about a 29" draw and didn't notice any stack. The bow was lightning fast, with no hand shock. I would not hesitate to pull the trigger on a Maddog.
Title: Re: Montana vs. Savannah vs. Maddog
Post by: johnnyk71 on January 10, 2014, 01:09:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by slim_grim:
I had a chance to shoot a 60" Maddog Prairie Predator earlier in the week. On Maddog's website it's advertised as "a favorite for ladies, youths and other adults with a short draw length". I have about a 29" draw and didn't notice any stack. The bow was lightning fast, with no hand shock. I would not hesitate to pull the trigger on a Maddog.
same here. i draw over 28" and i shoot mine just fine, with no stacking.
Title: Re: Montana vs. Savannah vs. Maddog
Post by: Friend on January 10, 2014, 01:22:00 PM
While having deviated from the bows listed in this thread, I am thoroughly convinced that their is a wonderful bow in the classifieds that is special and is priced far below market value($325).

That would be the Mohawk and may warrant a serious look.

If the seller would ship overseas and you can handle 52@28, then this bow presents an exemplary opportunity. These bows shoot with other esteemed bows and even better than some that command a $1000+ price tag.
Title: Re: Montana vs. Savannah vs. Maddog
Post by: SCATTERSHOT on January 10, 2014, 05:58:00 PM
I have owned and shot all three, and I think the Savannah is one of the best bows out there. They come up used from time to time in excellent condition for around $300.00.
Title: Re: Montana vs. Savannah vs. Maddog
Post by: 2 edges on January 10, 2014, 07:50:00 PM
Savannah's rock! I have had 2 they shoot hard and draw very smooth, awesome bows. I would put them up and over alot of customs.They can be found for 250-300

2 Edges
Title: Re: Montana vs. Savannah vs. Maddog
Post by: Jono on January 12, 2014, 07:50:00 AM
Sounds like I have to try out the Savannah someday
Title: Re: Montana vs. Savannah vs. Maddog
Post by: rick7 on January 12, 2014, 03:04:00 PM
i have owned 4 savanahs and they are an excellent bows. i just like to trade or i would have kept one
Title: Re: Montana vs. Savannah vs. Maddog
Post by: Roadkill on January 12, 2014, 07:50:00 PM
Have shot allthree. Savannah isaprettybow.  Allshoot well.  I did get a Maddog and it settles in quickly and consistently.  There is a thread about shipping a bow to NZ.  the shipping cost is staggering.  Somebody recommened a two or three piecetocut down on shipping.investigate, and there are great take downs too
Title: Re: Montana vs. Savannah vs. Maddog
Post by: Roadkill on January 12, 2014, 07:50:00 PM
Have shot allthree. Savannah isaprettybow.  Allshoot well.  I did get a Maddog and it settles in quickly and consistently.  There is a thread about shipping a bow to NZ.  the shipping cost is staggering.  Somebody recommened a two or three piecetocut down on shipping.investigate, and there are great take downs too
Title: Re: Montana vs. Savannah vs. Maddog
Post by: gonefishing600 on January 12, 2014, 08:49:00 PM
I have owned two Savannahs and I couldn't get rid of them fast enough once I tried Custom bows like Dan Toelke's Whip, A&H, JD Berry, Leon Stewart's Slammer, just to name a few.
Title: Re: Montana vs. Savannah vs. Maddog
Post by: Lineman72 on January 13, 2014, 06:25:00 AM
Have owned Montana and Maddog praire predator, still have the Maddog. I have a youtube vid of that praire pred if you want to see one. Good luck
Title: Re: Montana vs. Savannah vs. Maddog
Post by: Geryl Gilbert on August 31, 2014, 08:20:00 PM
I must disagree with slickhead on off the shelf bows. I used them for years. I am a small man with a 24 draw and never get the power I need from an off the shelf bow. My height precludes using 64 or even a 62 inch bow affectively. I stand 64 inches tall.
I wanted to shoot Longbows but at my height that was a problem. Mike at Maddog built me a 52 inches long bow that hits right where I aim and has the power I want to hunt with. So remember, not everybody has a 28" draw.
Title: Re: Montana vs. Savannah vs. Maddog
Post by: Geryl Gilbert on August 31, 2014, 08:21:00 PM
I must disagree with slickhead on off the shelf bows. I used them for years. I am a small man with a 24 draw and never get the power I need from an off the shelf bow. My height precludes using 64 or even a 62 inch bow affectively. I stand 64 inches tall.
I wanted to shoot Longbows but at my height that was a problem. Mike at Maddog built me a 52 inches long bow that hits right where I aim and has the power I want to hunt with. So remember, not everybody has a 28" draw.
Title: Re: Montana vs. Savannah vs. Maddog
Post by: red axe on September 01, 2014, 10:30:00 AM
+1 For the Maddog. I bought a "Mountaineer" model....can't speak highly enough of that bad mutha. Mike doesn't go out of his way to make it pretty (unless ya ask him) BUT his bows are quiet, consistent, and fast. Do yourself a favor and get one....it'll make ya a believer.
Title: Re: Montana vs. Savannah vs. Maddog
Post by: Archie on September 01, 2014, 09:36:00 PM
Mike at Maddog is definitely the way to go.  Good luck!
Title: Re: Montana vs. Savannah vs. Maddog
Post by: on September 02, 2014, 07:56:00 PM
I have shot all three a number of times.  I tried to get a friend to buy either a Montana or a Savannah, he hated them, he bought a longer r/d that was better than both.  I bought a Prairie Predator and after I shot it and found what arrows it liked. I gave it away, to the youngster that I ordered for. It will grow in power as he grows in draw length. It is deadly accurate and deathly quiet.
Title: Re: Montana vs. Savannah vs. Maddog
Post by: beaunaro on October 11, 2014, 10:39:00 PM
I have a "plain jane"Prairie Predator and it shoots great.

Speed is good, it's quiet, and smooth, and accurate.

I own prettier bows, but it is what I selected and I more than got my money's worth.

I would hunt with it anywhere, it's built really tough.

And Mike will get it to you way faster than most custom builders.
Title: Re: Montana vs. Savannah vs. Maddog
Post by: newhouse114 on October 11, 2014, 11:04:00 PM
I have a 60 lb Montana and will not be retiring it anytime soon. It might have to share my attention with one Edward Boyd's bows from Trinity one of these days.
Title: Re: Montana vs. Savannah vs. Maddog
Post by: newhouse114 on October 11, 2014, 11:05:00 PM
Title: Re: Montana vs. Savannah vs. Maddog
Post by: bowless on October 12, 2014, 11:18:00 AM
I had a Montana and a Savannah, I should have kept the Montana.  Keep in mind the grips are completely different.
Having said that, I'd go with Maddog and have it made the way you want.
Title: Re: Montana vs. Savannah vs. Maddog
Post by: KyStickbow on October 12, 2014, 02:42:00 PM
I have a Montana and couldn't be happier with it. Its very affordable and I don't feel like I have to baby it in the woods like I would a prettier custom bow. Having a bow made just the way you want is a plus though...and Maddog could make that happen.
Title: Re: Montana vs. Savannah vs. Maddog
Post by: SCATTERSHOT on October 12, 2014, 10:30:00 PM
I have had all three, at one time or another, and if I were,going to buy a bow tomorrow it would be a Savannah.