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Title: The archer's cloak
Post by: Legolas on January 06, 2014, 10:34:00 AM
I follow the Greyarcher1 on YouTube who has excellent instinctive archery discussions, bow reviews, and equiptment advice. Recently he has a few videos on making cloaks that are archer friendly. I know he uses fleece and I would prefer wool. The Asbell wool poncho does not appear as functional to use.

I could really see myself sitting in a treestand with an archers cloak.Give it a look   ;)    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=8QcgzoYz34o

Legolas
Title: Re: The archer's cloak
Post by: nleroux2 on January 06, 2014, 10:39:00 AM
I've seen that too. I am currently searching tartan suppliers to find a pattern that would provide maximum camo effect. I'm also considering designing a pattern, there is a weaver in Scotland that will do custom patterns. It will be interesting to see how this develops.

Steve A
Title: Re: The archer's cloak
Post by: Legolas on January 06, 2014, 10:43:00 AM
Steve A,
Just a grey wool blanket has great camo capabilities like a deers coat.
Title: Re: The archer's cloak
Post by: reddogge on January 06, 2014, 11:51:00 AM
I don't like the trashing around pulling your arm out to shoot and putting your arm in again. Too much movement and trouble to me. Basically it's a wool or fleece poncho.
Title: Re: The archer's cloak
Post by: ChuckC on January 06, 2014, 12:52:00 PM
Ah.. not interested.

ChuckC
Title: Re: The archer's cloak
Post by: Guru on January 06, 2014, 12:59:00 PM
I suppose it would be great for roaming in the "forest", or nostalgic stuff... but for serious hunting    :nono:
Title: Re: The archer's cloak
Post by: dnovo on January 06, 2014, 01:08:00 PM
I can surely see getting busted trying to get it out of the way to get a shot. In a treestand it would seem to be one big dark blob.
Title: Re: The archer's cloak
Post by: RAGHORN 3 on January 06, 2014, 02:33:00 PM
Hey... Now I know what to do with that hideous terri cloth bath robe...   :D
Title: Re: The archer's cloak
Post by: David M. Mathis on January 06, 2014, 02:39:00 PM
Like a gun fighter pulling his long coat back in a gun fight. Not very practical for hunting.imo mike
Title: Re: The archer's cloak
Post by: NBK on January 06, 2014, 02:44:00 PM
I used to carry a gray wool blanket up with me for one late season stand I had.  The stand was in a huge white pine so I wasn't worried about back cover and I used the blanket draped around me for additional wind blocking and warmth.  I cut a small slit in it and ran my safety harness through it so when I shrugged it off my shoulders it wouldn't fall.  Worked pretty good, but can't say I ever shot a deer while wearing it.
While this cloak is "cool" on a certain level, i.e. LOTR, I wouldn't ever wear one just from a practicality standpoint.
Title: Re: The archer's cloak
Post by: gringol on January 06, 2014, 02:44:00 PM
Great for taking naps.
Title: Re: The archer's cloak
Post by: Paul_R on January 06, 2014, 02:50:00 PM
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Title: Re: The archer's cloak
Post by: Easykeeper on January 06, 2014, 03:04:00 PM
I'm not interested, looks like a lot of potential for string/clothing interference.  I also wouldn't want all that material waving around, seems like a good way to get picked off.  And don't get me started on hoods, they never seem to work for me.

Looks like fun for playing medieval warrior though...    :archer:
Title: Re: The archer's cloak
Post by: Ben Maher on January 06, 2014, 03:06:00 PM
The guy running that YouTube page has one pretty strange ideas about archery, bow making etc ...
He is not as knowledgable as he thinks he is ...

I often wonder how much actual hunting this guy has done .
Title: Re: The archer's cloak
Post by: Stumpkiller on January 06, 2014, 03:38:00 PM
I've done some trekking and much prefer a capote up here where you need to work out in the cold.  Watchcoats, long cloaks, ponchos are great in pouring rain - but fail in most other situations.

It's like walking around with a shelter-half draped over you.  

Here's a link to a "Matchcoat" method to form a blanklet to make a good cold-weather wrap.  I have used this to warm up when a wool blanket is available (I have three in my RAV4 at the moment).  Works best with a smaller blanket.

 


 
QuoteI often wonder how much actual hunting this guy has done .
72 orcs and one dragon.
Title: Re: The archer's cloak
Post by: njloco on January 06, 2014, 03:38:00 PM
just buy a Swanndri shirt !
Title: Re: The archer's cloak
Post by: Ben Maher on January 06, 2014, 03:52:00 PM
As a longtime Swanndri wearer ... I concur !!!
Title: Re: The archer's cloak
Post by: typical2 on January 06, 2014, 03:57:00 PM
I use my ghillie suit in basically the same way.  I leave my bow arm out of it while I hunt.  It has worked well for me (until I simply cut my bow arm sleeve off).

It's not that bad of an idea.
Title: Re: The archer's cloak
Post by: xtrema312 on January 06, 2014, 05:16:00 PM
Not my thing but there  is some advantage of having something you can get more into to keep warm and get more out of to shoot or cool off when moving without having to carry or pack it.  It would take some movement to get out of to shoot, but so does a heater body suit.  

If you like it, have fun with it.
Title: Re: The archer's cloak
Post by: John McCreary on January 06, 2014, 07:44:00 PM
What is a "Swanndri" Shirt?
Title: Re: The archer's cloak
Post by: Tajue17 on January 06, 2014, 08:43:00 PM
I have one in very heavy weight wool I bought at King Richards Faire and its like wearing an oven but the sleeves are huge and hang down maybe 10-12 inches and I can't see using it for archery but I haven't honestly tried.. I use a leather belt with belt bag and its perfect for primitive Black Powder.
Title: Re: The archer's cloak
Post by: Brock on January 06, 2014, 09:43:00 PM
I bought my Swanndri jacket when TOO SHORT was selling them from Screaming Eagle....great clothing item with very tight knit wool.

 

Paul Brunner had them do a buffalo plaid and also a camo version...but normally they come in grey, blue or green.

There are some similar versions out and about but I have hunted in 18* freezing rain and snow with this over a filson wool vest...over an woolrich alaskan shirt....woolrich wool pants...lacrosse iceman boots....beanie cap and wool gloves and been TOASTY.  Put hood up...sit up against a tree and you will fall asleep...haha

    (http://www.denewear.co.uk/store/media/img/prd/95/1256125640/XL.jpg)
    (http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/e6/82/6c/e6826c1a74597c0c63dcbdd87146c513.jpg)


Here is a good description and photos of the Swandri Mosgiel shirt/jacket
Title: Re: The archer's cloak
Post by: njloco on January 07, 2014, 02:14:00 PM
Swanndri uses a 100 year old process to  make  the wool water proof, The shirt, isn't a shirt like  your  use  too, it's quite thick and long, goes  about  midway down  the thigh,  and  you  wouldn't tuck it  into  your  pants. It's  made  this  long so as to enable  the wearer to  sit  down  in mud and muck  if  the  need  should  arise  while  hunting,  and  not  get wet.

They  use  to  be  made  in New Zealand,  but  like  many  things  today,  the  wool  is  still  made  and  treated in New Zealand,  but  it's  now  made  into a garment in China and shipped  back  to New Zealand.

Both  my shirt and jacket were  the  originals  made  in New Zealand, now if  you  want originals,  you  have to  shop  around.
Title: Re: The archer's cloak
Post by: arrow flynn on January 07, 2014, 08:11:00 PM
im rt on the coast in no cal .I had a camo swandri shirt as in pic it was fine 40 miles east of here.but if you are humping hills on the coast you need a light rain poncho over fleece.I personally don't think it is rt for every weather situation.
Title: Re: The archer's cloak
Post by: jsweka on January 07, 2014, 10:47:00 PM
I'll pass on the cloak thing.  Just to much material hanging off to get hung up on stuff.

Besides, all the deer would be scared off with my hunting buddies laughing there butts off at me.
Title: Re: The archer's cloak
Post by: cahaba on January 08, 2014, 08:27:00 AM
I been thinking about getting a hooded plaid robe in fleece or wool. I am thinking about customizing it with some buttons and inner pockets for hand warmers and such. After the winter season they go on sale.
Title: Re: The archer's cloak
Post by: Legolas on January 08, 2014, 11:14:00 AM
Really the idea is something simple (see the video where Grey takes a blanket and makes a cloak with marbles and string).

When he pulls his arm out to shoot it looked easy and simple. I know most of the deer I have shot I had ample time to get ready. Heck getting the bow off the hook is a lot of motion also.

Swanndri looks fine but $300 is a little rich for me and defeats the concept of simple, love to have one as a gift.
Title: Re: The archer's cloak
Post by: njloco on January 10, 2014, 10:59:00 AM
Yes, everything has it's place, maybe on the west coast you can wear fleece with a poncho or some other water proof garment, but if you get sweated up and and get hurt, or get stuck for some other reason and can't move around for whatever reason, and it gets cold, you'll wish you had some wool !

I paid about 1/3 the list price for my Swanndri shirt and jacket, I ain't rich either, just smart and in the right place at the right time.
Title: Re: The archer's cloak
Post by: reddogge on January 10, 2014, 11:56:00 AM
There are plenty of plans on the internet for building capotes and blanket shirts out of wool blankets. Much more practical than a poncho arrangement.
Title: Re: The archer's cloak
Post by: Stonedog on January 11, 2014, 08:52:00 AM
I bought some "camo" burlap from my local Tractor supply.  I cut is big enough to cover me up when standing....then wear it like a match coat.  When I sit down (I use a Torges tree seat) I all but disappear....I think it was $15?  I have seen it clearance for $10 or so...cheaper and cooler than a ghillie suit....and useful for all weather!

It's not hard core real tree, just more a mottled pile of old leaves pattern...