I killed a good buck this morning (story under "My Best Buck").
He seemed like a pretty old deer so we were prying his mouth open to look at his teeth and spotted worms!
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He had been dead probably 5 hours when we got to him. I'm assuming the crawled up from his belly or lungs during this time.
Any idea what these are? Anything to worry about with meat?
I would bet they are bot fly larvae. They live in the nasal cavity of a LOT of deer. If that is what they are they do not hurt anything and the meat is just fine!
Bisch
Yup! Bot fly larva
Yep. Crawled out of my last year's deer's nose.
How'd they taste?
Nasal bots. Yum!
Horrible, isn't it? I raise sheep and you can't believe the parasites they are vulnerable to. I try to minimize such things, of course. I imagine deer are even more troubled. Wild animals (and domestic) carry a "normal parasite load" at the best of times.
I took a course on medical parasitology in college and there are no horror or sci-fy thrillers that upset me near as much as what can use us as a host in plain ol' real life.
I've killer squirrels that were loaded with bot flys. And in our "tin cat" I trapped a mouse that had several. That would be like a human with two footballs stuffed under your skin. Nasty critters.
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How'd they taste?
Haha... my buddies told me that It's like a bottle of tequila and I had to eat the worm! I declined!
Glad to hear it isn't some exotic parasite. Thanks for the feedback fellas.
Yep nasal bots no issue
2 weeks ago I was extracting the jaw bones out of several does and one deer had bot flies in the mouth. Kinda nasty looking but very common
Nasal bots? Didn't they overthrow the Klingons and give the Starship Enterprise a run for its money awhile back?
QuoteOriginally posted by olddogrib:
Nasal bots? Didn't they overthrow the Klingons and give the Starship Enterprise a run for its money awhile back?
No, I think you are thinking of that infestation of Nano Bots that Wesley Crusher let loose... :eek:
;)
Wow that's crazy! Never saw them before at least not in a deers mouth!
I shot a little Roe buck in Germany that was sneezing continuously. I took the whole head for a European mount - the forester kept the meat for sale to a restaurant. That poor little guy's head was so full of bot fly larvae I can't imagine how he was still breathing. The meat was fine and the forester told me he would have probably survived and lived a normal life. Game animals are just plain tough!
That's nasty , seen them before thou. Our horse gets them now and again.
Bet they would be great for fishing to?
Interesting. Have seen many deer sneeze in my days. I suppose that was the cause.
Thats gross. Ive never seen that. You would think the freezing weather would kill them.
I have seen this on the underside of the hide when skinning caribou, encapsulated in connective tissue. They are also called warble flies.
Interestingly, these were traditionally eaten by native people right at the time of butchering. Google it and you will see...
When they eventually emerge from the skin on live animals, the hides are full of holes until healing occurs. This was taken into consideration for deciding when to hunt if you wanted the hides for clothing, avoiding the time around the hatch. Vilhjalmur Stefansson wrote about this in his books on living with the Alaskan and Canadian natives for extended periods between 1906 and 1918.
ive also seen the warbles in spring caribou, the skin was like a mine field, on the same animals when we slit their necks handfuls of them came out. im assuming they were in the nasal cavity.
just disgusting.
QuoteOriginally posted by boznarras:
I have seen this on the underside of the hide when skinning caribou, encapsulated in connective tissue. They are also called warble flies.
Interestingly, these were traditionally eaten by native people right at the time of butchering. Google it and you will see...
When they eventually emerge from the skin on live animals, the hides are full of holes until healing occurs. This was taken into consideration for deciding when to hunt if you wanted the hides for clothing, avoiding the time around the hatch. Vilhjalmur Stefansson wrote about this in his books on living with the Alaskan and Canadian natives for extended periods between 1906 and 1918.
That's really interesting. My buck had a wound on chest... About a two inch slit. I wonder if that's what that was??
If you have ever heard a deer sneeze I think this is why, Just about all deer down here have them, bot fly larvae. Not sure how true this is but i read that a fly places its larvae on a sleeping deers nostrils.
I have never even heard of bot fly so I went ahead and googled it. A wikipedia article describes infestation like this...
The larval stages of Cephenemyia are obligate parasites of cervids.[2] Eggs hatch in the uterus of the female. She then flies close to the head of her host species and while hovering ejects her larvae into its nostrils.[3] Larvae migrate to the base of the animal's tongue, where they mature in clusters to a size of 25 to 36 mm. After being ejected by the host, they pupate in soil (2 to 3 weeks) before emerging as a sexually-mature but non-feeding adult, which must quickly find a mate, since its life is short.[3]
Nasty stuff!
Must have been some crazy evolutionary stuff going on there!
:laughing:
I wonder if the single celled organism (from nowhere) first became a deer and then another one became a fly that decided to create eggs and them drop them in animals nostrils where the young somehow managed to mature in the deers mouth.
I guess some people have more faith than me! LOL
you only have to eat them, if it was your best buck ever ! :scared:
Saw those in a deer last year here in Oklahoma. Wondered what the were. Kinda taste like chicken. :bigsmyl:
:eek: :scared:
Man I'm afraid to blow my nose!
Oh man, seen people pulling those out of their skin on youtube. Never occurred to me the US could have them. I thought they were a South American pest mostly.However up here in MN, I did get some squirrels years back that had a similar worm like thing on their bellies I could see moving. I spose there is multiple kinds of these things out there.
That really is pretty disgusting. I dont think I could eat them straight out of the Snot Box, fry them babies up first!! :scared: