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Title: Solo DIY Elk 2014
Post by: Gil Verwey on January 03, 2014, 05:34:00 PM
In 2011 and 2012 I did DIY elk hunts in Colorado. Last year I got two hours of hunting in all year because of work and building a horse farm. I barely had time to shoot or go on Tradgang.

My hunting partner is doing a Alaska fishing trip this year and a solo backcountry hunt is in my bucket list, so I am going it solo. I can't wait!

I plan on making up for lost time and hunting my butt off this year.

Exercise, diet and shooting from now until then. A few winter bow whitetail hunts and a DIY hog hunt between now and then.

This is going to be my year for an elk, since I am leaving my deer and elk repellent home (my hunting partner) Ha!

I can't wait for September!!!!!
Title: Re: Solo DIY Elk 2014
Post by: Wapiti Chaser on January 03, 2014, 05:37:00 PM
Gil sounds like a dream coming true for you. I love the planning and excitement of prepping and planning a big hunt.  I'm trying to figure out how to do two this year !
Title: Re: Solo DIY Elk 2014
Post by: Bernie B. on January 03, 2014, 05:38:00 PM
Hopefully my group will get drawn this year for September too.  Had a great time in 2011 and look forward to backpacking in again.

Bernie Bjorklund

NC Iowa/SW Wisconsin
Title: Re: Solo DIY Elk 2014
Post by: Gil Verwey on January 03, 2014, 05:39:00 PM
Ooops I forgot the bunny hunt in February! Can't forget that.
Title: Re: Solo DIY Elk 2014
Post by: Sixby on January 03, 2014, 05:47:00 PM
Gil, I m quite sure that you are the horseman. Are you planning to take a couple of horses,. Riding and perhaps a couple of pack horses>?

If so I will give my free opinion. Everyone has one but mine is cheap except for the experiences that formed it.

I would  recommend to not go in any further than you can easily walk out. Many a trip has been ruined by spooked horses and ending up having to spend the entire trip hunting the buggers down. Its amazing how far a hobbled horse can go when a cat or a bear spooks them in the middle of the night.

I was in Denio Oregon and a couple of real ticked off guys came in and they were ticked off b ecause they had been chasing five horses all over the Owyhees for a full week. They finally said we will go back in a couple of weeks and see if we can find them. If not then they can be cat or dog food.

I personally kept mine in a corral I built out of lodgepole and rope plus hobbles., But then I hate chasing horses. LOL

God bless and have a wonderful time but Be careful to the max doing a solo. Not that many people out during bow season in some places.

Steve
Title: Re: Solo DIY Elk 2014
Post by: Gil Verwey on January 03, 2014, 06:38:00 PM
Steve in 2011 we backpacked in 10 miles and stayed 11 days. In 2012 we were dropped off at the same area and picked up on horses\\mules and made arrangements to have them pack out our elk on mules. We stayed 13 days on that trip.

I missed backpacking in but I get more hunting getting dropped off, so that is the way I am going to do it this year. Also I am arranging to have the elk packed out too again if I connect.

I will be hunting light with my camp on my back and will move camp periodically.

My only problem is where I hunt it is between outfitters boundaries, so if I shoot a bull I have to just pack it to the boundary the packer can go to. That is a lot better than one 60 year old man trying to pack out a elk 10 miles by himself. I have packed out elk before, but not this distance and terrain. I know how bad that would be solo or even with the two of us.

My other problem is getting there. We do DIY hunts yearly and always drive with a 4x4 and our gear. Since I will be solo, I am looking to fly in with my gear, rent a vehicle.

I started to look for flights but right now you can't book past June on Southwest to Denver.

I have two packers I can use, so if one doesn't work out the other one should.

Steve I should add I have horses and a farm I board other horses at. In Colorado you have to bring in approved hay from the local area. I would have to trailer my horses from NJ. I would spend most of my time taking care of horses instead of hunting. This is vacation to get away from them and hunt. I clean stalls and paddocks  and feed twice a day all year. Nope the only horses I will ride out there is someone else's!
Title: Re: Solo DIY Elk 2014
Post by: Burnsie on January 03, 2014, 07:01:00 PM
Gil, glad to see you back and determined as ever.
I thought you might be interested in this thread, you probably missed it during your time away.

http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=131615#000000
Title: Re: Solo DIY Elk 2014
Post by: Gil Verwey on January 03, 2014, 07:09:00 PM
Hey thanks Troy. I am fired and have a goal to do it again this year. The more I keep reading the more fired up I will stay. I had a long thread when I went in 2012. It will be nice to read somebody else's.

I am reading it now.

Gil
Title: Re: Solo DIY Elk 2014
Post by: Burnsie on January 03, 2014, 07:25:00 PM
Yep, your big long thread from 2012 was my main tutorial for our trip - Thanks again
Title: Re: Solo DIY Elk 2014
Post by: Gil Verwey on January 03, 2014, 07:27:00 PM
Troy nice thread. No need to thank me in it. I am glad to see I inspired you to give it a go. First year doing it, you got some of the worst weather you could have, yet you saw elk and a couple of nice bulls. I bet you won't forget the sight of those two bulls!  

I know a lot of guys that went last year and never heard an elk bugle or saw one.

This year the weather will hopefully cooperate.

If I wasn't stuck in work and burned up my vacation on the horse farm, I would have been out there too. I would have been swamped where I go.

We go the last two weeks of the archery season. I will be doing that this year too.

You going and giving it a try is what I wanted from that thread. Isn't it just like what you do locally, only a whole lot more of it?

I loved the area you hunted. My area the trees are mostly dead from the pine beetle.

Good luck this year.

Gil
Title: Re: Solo DIY Elk 2014
Post by: Gil Verwey on January 03, 2014, 07:51:00 PM
This is a bull I got to within 20 yards in 2011. The pictures were taken by someone else. I thought the herd was about 30 cows, but a friend that took the pictures counted more than 30. There were two satellite bulls too.

 (http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv324/distantmeadows/elkbull1_zpsc052db3f.jpg) (http://s696.photobucket.com/user/distantmeadows/media/elkbull1_zpsc052db3f.jpg.html)

 (http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv324/distantmeadows/bull2_zps03e13520.jpg) (http://s696.photobucket.com/user/distantmeadows/media/bull2_zps03e13520.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Solo DIY Elk 2014
Post by: VictoryHunter on January 03, 2014, 09:34:00 PM
:campfire:
Title: Re: Solo DIY Elk 2014
Post by: Gil Verwey on January 03, 2014, 09:48:00 PM
Here is how we went in 2012, instead of backpacking. This is how I will be doing it in 2014.

It gave us more time to hunt. Almost got me killed on the way in but that is half the fun.

 (http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv324/distantmeadows/100_0353_zpsb187f4a2.jpg) (http://s696.photobucket.com/user/distantmeadows/media/100_0353_zpsb187f4a2.jpg.html)
 (http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv324/distantmeadows/100_0357_zpsa9ca3674.jpg) (http://s696.photobucket.com/user/distantmeadows/media/100_0357_zpsa9ca3674.jpg.html)

If you knew the story behind this picture you would be rolling. I can't believe I kept the camera still taking this one. My partner would kill me if I brought it to your attention though. Ha! I still can't stop laughing at this one.

 (http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv324/distantmeadows/100_0363_zpsfd190ede.jpg) (http://s696.photobucket.com/user/distantmeadows/media/100_0363_zpsfd190ede.jpg.html)

This is where I almost bit the bullet on the ride in. A lot of funny stories in and out on mules! They are an adventure in themselves!

 (http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv324/distantmeadows/100_0359_zps246402e7.jpg) (http://s696.photobucket.com/user/distantmeadows/media/100_0359_zps246402e7.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Solo DIY Elk 2014
Post by: Keb on January 03, 2014, 10:36:00 PM
Sweet look forward to following your adventure!!
Title: Re: Solo DIY Elk 2014
Post by: Hoyt on January 04, 2014, 05:25:00 AM
I tried to leave a horse in the Bitterroots back in 86. He was a young horse, first time in the mountains..rented 10 of them..one wouldn't load, so took 9 in.

It snowed the last night we were in there and for some reason my horse kept trying to buck me off on the way out to the trail head. I finally got off and walked out. He followed along behind me like a puppy.
Title: Re: Solo DIY Elk 2014
Post by: Gil Verwey on January 04, 2014, 08:16:00 AM
I thought I had been bucked off a horse everyway possible, but I found out mules have some sneaky  ways of their own!
Title: Re: Solo DIY Elk 2014
Post by: Jack Shanks on January 04, 2014, 08:18:00 AM
Gil,

Good luck! Sounds like an adventure.

I'm sitting on 18 preference points in Colorado for elk and probably won't apply for a tag again this year. Just not as enthused about doing a solo back pack elk hunt as I was twenty years ago though. Maybe next year I will have enough points to draw and will feel a little better about going alone.
Title: Re: Solo DIY Elk 2014
Post by: Gil Verwey on January 04, 2014, 08:27:00 AM
Jack I just love being out there in those mountains. We hunt in over the counter zones. We used to hunt Montana but because of having to draw, their cost and now the lack of elk due to wolves they introduced we strictly hunt Co. for elk.

I heard Colorado was thinking about making the same mistake Montana did. I hope they do not introduce wolves in Colorado.
Title: Re: Solo DIY Elk 2014
Post by: Gil Verwey on January 04, 2014, 08:31:00 AM
Boy am I glad I brought my Bear spray! He had an evil look in his eyes!!!!

 (http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv324/distantmeadows/100_0389_zpsb685779a.jpg) (http://s696.photobucket.com/user/distantmeadows/media/100_0389_zpsb685779a.jpg.html)

Then it was on to hand to hand combat! And I thought mules were dangerous!

 (http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv324/distantmeadows/100_0388_zps7da82b76.jpg) (http://s696.photobucket.com/user/distantmeadows/media/100_0388_zps7da82b76.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Solo DIY Elk 2014
Post by: Jack Shanks on January 04, 2014, 08:46:00 AM
Gil,

Great pictures! Brings back memories when I elk hunted Colorado and Montana over twenty years ago. Used to go almost every year back in the 80's and early 90's. Drop camps or back packing in for two or three weeks at a time. My legs were much younger and the mountains less steep in those days.
Title: Re: Solo DIY Elk 2014
Post by: Gil Verwey on January 04, 2014, 08:57:00 AM
Jack I know the feeling. I will be 60 this year out there.

My wife is having fits about going it alone back country. I told her that is the way I want to go out, the coyotes and bears have to eat too! I am keeping it quiet now, so  by the time she realizes I am still going, I will be waving goodbye on the way to the airport. Ha, some women have no sense of humor!
Title: Re: Solo DIY Elk 2014
Post by: Jack Shanks on January 04, 2014, 09:00:00 AM
I spent a lot of birthdays in elk country. Not a better way to spend them. The next and probably my last time I go I'll be drawing social security.
Title: Re: Solo DIY Elk 2014
Post by: fnshtr on January 04, 2014, 11:09:00 AM
I hit 60 last month and I feel every bit of it! Having issues with my joints (mostly knees, but shoulders lately). Hoping I can shed some weight and get in decent enough shape to do a DIY solo backpack hunt again this year.

I'm not anti-social, and in fact miss company during the longer stretches (5-6 days), but do enjoy SOME time alone in the mountains.

I have some buddies that I connect with once I'm back in the wilderness.

Good luck guys!
Title: Re: Solo DIY Elk 2014
Post by: snag on January 04, 2014, 11:34:00 AM
"..... I just love being out there in those mountains".  AGREED! Couldn't imagine not getting my mountain fix every year. Have to get as much of this as we can so when we can't do it anymore we'll have all those memories to keep us busy.

Hope one of those arrows find it's mark!
Title: Re: Solo DIY Elk 2014
Post by: Hoyt on January 04, 2014, 12:26:00 PM
One of my biggest regrets is not going into the Rockies Elk hunting at a much younger age. If I had, without a doubt I would have moved somewhere in Elk country.

If I was going to give a young hunter who is really serious about hunting one piece of advice, it would be to go Elk hunting in the Rocky Mountain backcountry while you are young.
Title: Re: Solo DIY Elk 2014
Post by: huntnmuleys on January 04, 2014, 01:17:00 PM
awesome pics! I would go for sure.  id rather go on a lackluster elk hunt than a good hunt for any other animal.
Title: Re: Solo DIY Elk 2014
Post by: Ranger44 on January 04, 2014, 04:19:00 PM
Exactly what Hoyt said.  

In fact, when I read it I had to look to see who said it because I knew I didn't but it's just what I was thinking.
Title: Re: Solo DIY Elk 2014
Post by: Bill Kissner on January 04, 2014, 08:49:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Jack Shanks:
I spent a lot of birthdays in elk country. Not a better way to spend them. The next and probably my last time I go I'll be drawing social security.
Jack, I've been drawing SS for several years(I'm 72)and God willing I'll be back in SW Colorado again for several years chasing elk. I just don't hunt the really steep country anymore.   :D
Title: Re: Solo DIY Elk 2014
Post by: Jack Shanks on January 04, 2014, 09:23:00 PM
Bill,

I admire you for still having the drive! I'm 61 and elk hunted the mountains in my twenties, thirties and early forties. Got interested in chasing other species and just never got back after the elk again. Up until a few years ago I was still doing mountain hunts for sheep and goats but some back problems put an end to that. Now days,I'm content to mostly hunt whitetails in my home state.
Title: Re: Solo DIY Elk 2014
Post by: 4dogs on January 04, 2014, 10:46:00 PM
One of my old huntin buddies had some health issues and his wife was very worried he would have an attack or worse when we were back in a ways. He told her the same thing.." I would like to die while huntin, five miles from the road so I die where I want and feed a bunch of friends at the same time" As we were walkin out the door for a two week hunt I whispered to her " I wouldn't leave him out there. I would bring him back out even if I had to make a few trips to do it"......She didn't talk to me for a long time.     :dunno:
Title: Re: Solo DIY Elk 2014
Post by: Gil Verwey on January 05, 2014, 08:10:00 AM
Quote" I wouldn't leave him out there. I would bring him back out even if I had to make a few trips to do it"......She didn't talk to me for a long time.
Mark now that is some funny stuff right there. And to think I told my hunting partner to give my family the GPS coordinates! Ha!
Title: Re: Solo DIY Elk 2014
Post by: BigTimber on January 05, 2014, 08:30:00 AM
I love horses and love horses on a hunt as long as they are someone else's and someone else is taking care of them.  Otherwise, a fella doesn't get to hunt much.

BT
aka Wapitidung
Title: Re: Solo DIY Elk 2014
Post by: Gil Verwey on January 05, 2014, 09:56:00 AM
I am with you BT. I said this earlier in a post.

QuoteSteve I should add I have horses and a farm I board other horses at. In Colorado you have to bring in approved hay from the local area. I would have to trailer my horses from NJ. I would spend most of my time taking care of horses instead of hunting. This is vacation to get away from them and hunt. I clean stalls and paddocks and feed twice a day all year. Nope the only horses I will ride out there is someone else's!
I wouldn't mind if I went out to be a wrangler, but as a hunter, no way.
Title: Re: Solo DIY Elk 2014
Post by: BrianfromTulsa on January 05, 2014, 01:43:00 PM
Good luck Gil.  I love your hunt alongs and I still use my tyvek bivy religiously.  Ill be up that way during muzzleloader season.  If you're around, I'd love to meet you.

Brian
Title: Re: Solo DIY Elk 2014
Post by: DEATHMASTER on January 05, 2014, 08:22:00 PM
I am going elk hunting for the first time. Have to take off a few pounds  which started December 4. Made it past the holidays with only one cookie of my moms.  
I am very anxious to go.  As was stated I wish I did this stuff younger but I guess it is never to late.
Title: Re: Solo DIY Elk 2014
Post by: Gil Verwey on January 05, 2014, 08:27:00 PM
Brian I think we missed each other last year due to when I was going in and coming out. Hope we can hook for a day this year. I will be doing the last two weeks of archery again.

As the time gets closer maybe we can plan a day in town, I will buy dinner.

Gil
Title: Re: Solo DIY Elk 2014
Post by: Keb on February 28, 2014, 09:16:00 PM
Ttt how's the planning going.

I'm planning a solo high country mule deer hunt back packing in, I'm pumped !! Just order all my new gear. Prob kill one by the truck and never pack in my luck, but I will take it.
Title: Re: Solo DIY Elk 2014
Post by: fnshtr on February 28, 2014, 11:10:00 PM
Good luck with your preparations Gil...always enjoy your posts (follow alongs).

I'm hoping to hunt longer this year. Last year monsoon season hit right along with archery elk!! I hunted 15 days... 15 wet, soggy days. Hope the weather is better this year.

Starting a 6 week "fat loss" program tomorrow. Then I should be able to get serious with a clean eating regimen and exercise program.

  :archer2: