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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: Mr. fingers on December 31, 2013, 02:03:00 PM
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Still getting use to my new Arrowmaster. I only got to hunt with it once. I had 6 2 blade BH and one blunt. I pulled one BH arrow out and put it back in maybe 6 times the blunt a couple of times.
So today it's too cold to hunt and after today the season is over. So I thought I'd play around with my quiver a bit. I unloaded the BH arrows and the fletching was a little beat up. A couple the feathers were flattened to the shaft one the feathers were all bent up and the one that went in and out the most looked just worn out.
I then put in 7 feild point arrows and they loaded and unloaded with ease. With minimal fletch damage.
Has anyone else expeirienced this problem and Any advice or info to rectify it would be appreciated.
Thanks Tim
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Tim,
Can't answer for the Arrowmaster problems BUT if you simply put your feathers in steam, they will bounce back to as new condition.
Arne
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If you load your arrows from the middle slot rather than the open end, there's a greater tendency to mash up the feathers. Also, the top rim of the quiver is malleable. If it's oval or tear drop shape, can simply squeeze it to get a round top, which will compress the feathers less. Because the feathers rest inside the quiver against the quiver wall, there will always be some mashing.
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Originally posted by Orion:
If you load your arrows from the middle slot rather than the open end, there's a greater tendency to mash up the feathers. Also, the top rim of the quiver is malleable. If it's oval or tear drop shape, can simply squeeze it to get a round top, which will compress the feathers less. Because the feathers rest inside the quiver against the quiver wall, there will always be some mashing.
X2
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sorry about your problem, I use the arrow master and have never had any problems with it, I love it !
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Originally posted by njloco:
sorry about your problem, I use the arrow master and have never had any problems with it, I love it !
So you have 0 fletching damage? How do you configure your BHs and how many arrows do you normally carry?
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I just went and checked because I wasn't sure and I have six wood arrows with Simmons heads and two carbon judo point arrows in my Safari Tuff.
My feathers are always perfect which is one of the reasons I like this quiver.
I load the quiver from the top, spacing the arrows and sticking the broadhead into the foam.
I pull the arrow that is going on the bow out from the side slot and return it that way after the hunt. I slide it back in carefully and watch the feathers.
I am really surprised your feathers are getting mangled.
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My feathers get mangled pretty bad, Its my only pet peave. I am sure there is an easy remedy like reshaping the opening.
Even with this pet peave, Its still my most used quiver for hunting.
Often the feathers tak ethe original shape after a shot or two.
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No way to keep them right if you hunt a lot. Constant removing and putting back, along with shifting as you move, no way to really prevent it. Tight foam helps.
8 arrows has to be tight.
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I wouldn't say mangled but the arrows I use were brand new and freshly fletched and after a few days in the quiver they don't look that way anymore.
One of the main attributes of this quiver is. To keep fletching dry and protected. There must be a way to configure them like frank right said. I don't like the idea of being that fussy with how the arrows go in and out..and I don't like damaged feathers either
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Sorry double post
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My feathers get messed up when they go through a deer any how :bigsmyl: If they get messed up in my Arrow Master I just steam them easy peasy.
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Every type of quiver has it's pluses and minuses. I use an arrow master and like it. You do have to be careful loading arrows to protect the feathers. Its I trade off I can live with, but understand that others don't feel the same way. I carry 5 arrows, seems to work the best for me with that number.
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I went elk hunting for three weeks in Idaho this passed season, ended up only hunting for two of the three weeks and fishing for the third. even with carrying the quiver on my back or lashing it to the ATV while driving it, and hiking for hours with it on, I never had any problems with the feathers, were they perfect ? but none were damaged that I would notice or put it on the side. 4 with broadheads and two with judo's.
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zero noticeable feather damage here. and I generally load from the top. i can fit 5 into the duiker easy and I shoot 4 fletch, short feathers.
if you are loading em backwards thru the exit hole on side then yeah I would think youd see some feather damage.
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you would want to be careful loading broad heads from the top also, or you might shave a feather. It works fine, you just can't ram and jam.
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i use an arrowmaster and duiker stuffed with arrows that have both large and small fletching and no feather damage. not ever.
what are you doing? methinks maybe this problem is operator induced ... ?
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Methinks too. I just pulled out my 6 arrows that have been in my Arrowmaster since Sept. and not a bent or ruffled feather. One thing I do when I load several arrows is I lay the quiver horizontal across my knee and carefully slide them in. You can feel and hear the feathers slide up into the quiver and tell by feel and sound if you are mashing them up.
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I like this quiver a lot and have used it for years and will continue to, but if you hunt with it, you will have squished fletching. I have strapped it on my climber, attached it to may elk pack, and strapped it to an atv. It happens especially when it sits in there awhile which can happened strapped to my climber.
They get squished as the quiver is not hard cased...that too is a trade-off verses a hard one like the dogg (sp?) quiver.
I run my finger on the fletch backwards...good to go.
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Well, I do really like the quiver.and thinking about it I did load my BH arrows kinda off to the side I wanted to see how many I could fit I got six in easy with plenty of room for more or some blunts. I'm thinking if I load my BH more in the center and space them a little better I might not get as much fletch damage.
Thanks for the responses everyone it's nice to know I'm not the only one with this problem.
Tim
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My lefty arrowmaster arrived today. I will give it a go saturday.
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Sorry about your feather issue. I use the Arrowmaster and many I know do and never had that problem.
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I've used an Arrowmaster for 3-4 years even to 3D shoots all summer and rarely have a feather problem. I have more feather issues by slamming them together in the target than my quiver. For hunting I usually carry 4 BHs and maybe a blunt or two and that is plenty for that quiver. Try to stuff too many arrows in it and I can see having a problem.
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I have never had that problem. I use 4 broadheads in mine when hunting big game, since I also break down my 2 piece bow and put it in with the arrows when back packing or dragging deer. My feathers are Gateway 5.5" shields and they are fine.
Gil
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Originally posted by moebow:
Tim,
Can't answer for the Arrowmaster problems BUT if you simply put your feathers in steam, they will bounce back to as new condition.
Arne
Thanks Arne ,
My wife was boiling water yesterday so I went and grabbed my messed up arrows. And althought I new of this method I haven't done it since is shot feathers out of my wheelie bows many years ago. They look pretty good now!
Just need to figure out placement in this quiver to keep em nice
Thanks Tim .
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I load from the top as much as possible. I put them in from the bottom carefully. I think the feathers you use make a difference both is size and quality. When I use cheap feathers and jamb them in and out a lot like shooting 3D, I do get some feather issues particularly if I put in multiple arrows at the same time. I use a 1-arrow quiver on my bow now not help reduce how much I have to put an arrow in and out. I also try and hang or stand the quiver on end rather than lay it down. I think the feathers keep a little better shape that way.
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I had the exact same problem that you are dealing with. My arrows are cut 31", so a little hangs out the top. My fletchings were always getting messed up. I took an old carbon shaft and sewed it into the inside of the quiver. This makes the quiver more rigid. It won't fold in the middle while being used. This has pretty much solved my fletching problems.
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Originally posted by Traddict:
I had the exact same problem that you are dealing with. My arrows are cut 31", so a little hangs out the top. My fletchings were always getting messed up. I took an old carbon shaft and sewed it into the inside of the quiver. This makes the quiver more rigid. It won't fold in the middle while being used. This has pretty much solved my fletching problems.
I have seen others that have made the same mods. Not sure why a light weight reinforcement rod is not used.
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You can also mold the shape of the quiver a bit, opening it up (rounder). This in itself makes it a bit stiffer. I use one a fair amount and the only time I have that issue is when I stick way too many arrows in there. I normally hunt with 3 BHs and 1 judo and have no issues in that conformation.
CHuckC
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Originally posted by tracker12:
Originally posted by Traddict:
I had the exact same problem that you are dealing with. My arrows are cut 31", so a little hangs out the top. My fletchings were always getting messed up. I took an old carbon shaft and sewed it into the inside of the quiver. This makes the quiver more rigid. It won't fold in the middle while being used. This has pretty much solved my fletching problems.
I have seen others that have made the same mods. Not sure why a light weight reinforcement rod is not used. [/b]
It's really not necessry. About a year ago the Arrowmaster has been redesigned inside and out with a stiffer and stronger material. I was surprised how rigid mine is.
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I must have the older model..my feathers get trashed and I only load 4 from the top. my model folds fairly bad in the middle..or breaks down..whatever you want to call it. I actually cut a piece of plastic tube to insert in the quiver..makes it more rigid and the arrows don't smash together..there is defintitley a issue with feather damage... but it may be with the older models. I still think it is one of the best quivers going..even with the modification
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I shot with my new arrowmaster for the last two days. Zero feather damage.
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Originally posted by Bear Heart:
I shot with my new arrowmaster for the last two days. Zero feather damage.
Field points or broad heads?
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I must have the newer model too. Here is a picture of my bow in with my quiver and arrows. I backdpacked with the bow in the quiver for probably a total of 16 hours and hunted many days with arrows in that quiver before the picture of the arrow was taken. The arrow picture is from the same backcountry trip I made. No problems with my feathers.
(http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv324/distantmeadows/Colorado%202011/DSCN0035.jpg) (http://s696.photobucket.com/user/distantmeadows/media/Colorado%202011/DSCN0035.jpg.html)
(http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv324/distantmeadows/Colorado%202011/DSCN0100.jpg) (http://s696.photobucket.com/user/distantmeadows/media/Colorado%202011/DSCN0100.jpg.html)
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isn't that a picture of my future ( someday ) bow ?
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That would make sense. Mine is probably 3 years old. You could pull the arrows out of mine and look through the top and just barely see the bottom. The arrow sewed to the inside back of it solved all of my problems. The quiver works great now.