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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: ny state land on December 30, 2013, 07:34:00 PM
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I'm changing my approach to hunting this year. I have been spending more and more time on the ground but have been using a light fold up type seat. Unfortunately it creaks a lot BUT it is easy to carry. I use a cat quiver and can't see how that would work with these type seats unless i am missing something? I like my setup just slip on my cat 3 and start walking, the fold ups have a strap that is easy to use. Lately i have just been standing in cover but feel too exposed. SO do i need to rethink my quiver situation to accommodate carrying a seat? I really like them idea of brushing in lower to the ground but being comfortable too. Any thoughts or experiences would be much appreciated.
Thanks
Stacy
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Waldrop pac seat works great & is real comfortable but you would have to fasten your cat quiver to the back of the seat.( The seat has straps so you carry/wear it like a backpack)
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I have a Tripod-Type Fold Up seat that I Love! I think I got it at Big R.....Or one of the Farm Stores. Its Camo, and you sit pretty low, and it doesnt make ANY noise and its light to pack.
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For the seats or chairs that have back straps I prefer the side quivers with a strap over my shoulder.
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If your looking for something that is light, easy to carry, doesn't creak, is adjustable and can be used free standing or leaning against a tree......then take a look at the Waldrop pack seat. I have attached a light weight old fleece pack to mine and can carry my gille suit and other items just like a backpack.
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk140/oldtwohairs/IMG_6791.jpg) (http://s279.photobucket.com/user/oldtwohairs/media/IMG_6791.jpg.html)
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i also use atripod folding stool.
which i attach to the back of my cat quiver- i put some extra compression straps on my cat quiver.
i can whip the seat out and be set up real quick.
if you would like some pics i can take some for you.
the seat can be backed up against a tree for a backrest if need be.
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The Waldrop looks nice and light. I tend to carry a certain amount of stuff in my pack like a warmer coat, rope,gutting gloves ext .. I also hunt quite a few different tracts of land the require some walking. Do the tripod type wests swivel?
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I started using the hammock seat this year and so far I am liking it. Talk about packable..
ChuckC
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I use this feller. Works good and is not heavy. I can sit for a while quietly. Can also get up and sit easily (I'm a handicapped hunter).
http://www.shop.bigjimsbowcompany.com/Ground-Hunter-Seat-GHSEAT.htm
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I have tried them all, the 29.00 dollar ameristep swivel stool is by far the best, legs adjust.
It does not have a back is the only draw back, but logged many hours in it.
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Waldrop, strap a pack on and you can carry all you need. I also have strapped a mini cat quiver on it also. I missed 2 deer from it this year.....lol!
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Hammock packs great and can to carried in your cat quiver
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Got to agree with Fred above. The seat Big Jim sells is nice. Quick and quiet to set up and take down. Actually there is no set up lean it against a tree or post and sit down. Only draw back is you have to have a tree or something to lean it against.
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Check out the spot 360 seat. He is a sponser on this site with a very great seat.
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I use a Dean Torges style tree seat (ties onto a tree at ground level) and a Jack Bowers Side Stalker quiver. I can sit or carry the seat over my shoulder and still hunt.
(http://www.bowyersedge.com/images/seat.jpg)
http://www.bowyersedge.com/treeseat.html
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I really like the Hammock seat and you can manuever pretty quiet with it. However, I am working on a new idea to fit my needs better
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I will give another thumbs up for the "hammock seat" here. It is light, comfortable, compact and quiet. All you need is a tree. It has replaced my Torges seat and is part of my standard ground hunting kit now. Great seat.
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Ok where is some info on the hammoc ? It sounds interesting
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I like my hammock seat, but am 100% disatisfied with their customer service. I received the seat as a gift. I sat in it a few times and the grommet on the front strap came off. I emailed the company. It took them 3 weeks to get back to me. Their response was to contact the distributor I purchased it from. I replied that being it was in the heart of hunting season, all I wanted to do was purchase a new strap. I never heard back from them.. I ended up buying a grommet kit and fixing it myself. Its too bad because i really like the seat. I wont purchase another if that is their best customer service...
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I have a Hunter Tree Seat that I made , and added a padded swivel seat to allow me to move into shooting position without standing . A touch heavy at about six pounds , easy set up and take down. So I purchased a hammock seat for the longer walk in hunts. Both of these products I highly recommend . Ken
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I went through a phase where I was 100% dedicated to ground hunting. (until I got a Lone Wolf Climber, now I'm 50/50 ground versus up a tree. But thats another subject all together)
I've tried the three-legged tripods, all types that you hang off the side of the tree, Waldrop Pac Seat, etc, etc, etc.
The search for the perfect seat seemed like it was going on forever. Until I came to the realization, that every situation can not be covered by a single seat.
After coming to that realization, my seats have been narrowed down to two. The rest, thrown in the trash or given away... The Waldrop PacSeat and the Nif-T-Seat.
Waldrop PacSeat:
Pros:
Super Comfortable. Can sit all day for 8 hours if needed. Be careful, you may be woken from your accidental slumber by a deer in your wheel-house!
Relatively Light.
Quiet for the first couple years.
Lean against a tree or Stand Alone.
Low Profile.
No set up time. Drop it off your back and you're hunting.
Cons:
Got a little squeeky after the first couple seasons. I have to lube it up before each season.
I have found set ups where this seat didn't work out. On extreme inclined hills, sometimes this seat just can't sit true, or if you get into a bulbus root system, the support bar between the front two legs teaters on the root system. Rarely, but it does happen, sometime the terrain forces you to compromise the "perfect" set up for a more Waldrop appropriate setup.
Can't rotate into a shot if needed without sliding your butt on the seat surface.
Nylon seat webbing is sometime really slick if I'm wearing clothes that don't grab well. (slide/creep down and have to push yourself back up the seat)
Nif-T-Seat:
Pros:
Super Rugged Construction. My grandkids will be using this seat decades from now.
Extremely adjustable.
Super Light.
No situation or terrain that this seat can not work in.
Packable, extremely minimalist concept.
Cool belt loop hook carry system.
Rotates naturally with it's design, but no moving parts to get squeeky in a hokey "swivel system". Great at the moment of truth when you need that extra 5ยบ of angle to rotate into the shot.
Cons:
Not for extended sits over 3 to 4 hours.
Minimal set up time. You do have a little assembly required, but not much.
These two seat cover every scenario I have when I'm hunting.
If I am hunting terrible terrain, not sitting over 4 hours, heavy slopes, and not 100% sure of where that "perfect" set up is, or simply spot and stalk hunting, the Nif-T-Seat will be with me on my journey.
If I know where I am setting up, the terrain isn't extreme, and i'm sitting for more than 4 hours, the Waldrop is on my back.
There are blended scenarios that make me sit at the back of my car before I walk in, staring at my two seats, each of which is screaming "pick me! pick me!"... Either way though, both are the most high quality, highly versitile seat on the market in my opinion. Very little restriction on usage, and perfect for years and years of abuse in the woods.
At the end of the day, if someone made me pick just one seat to hunt from for the rest of my days, I'd probably pick the Nif-T-Seat. At my young age, versitility to be able to see that perfect set up and get set up without any compromises out weighs comfort at the moment, and I love knowing I can head in the woods with my minimalist seat strapped to my belt, and get into any ambush that jumps out at me.
In 20 years, when my back can't take 4 hours on the Nif-T-Seat, the Waldrop will probably move to #1.
Hypothetically though, out of 10 hunts on the ground, I probably use the Nif-T-Seat 6 or 7 out of 10 times. So they both get to see a lot of action and rotation in my line-up.
Hope that helped a little.
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Who makes the "hammock seat" that everyone enjoys so much?
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Simply Traditional sells the Hammock seat.
http://www.simplytraditional.net/products-page/blinds-chairs/
They are a Trad Gang Sponsor.
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I actually took my hammock seat and had a custom seat made from sports netting made for it. It now has absolutely no noise and is still very light weight and compacts into a small bundle that easily fits INSIDE my pack. Unless you hunt where there are no trees I can't imagine a situation where this seat will not work well???
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Dead Ringer is the manufacturer, or at least the importer. Simply Traditional sells the seat, but I am pretty sure it will say dead ringer right on the packaging. Just beware of possibly quality issues and rectifying these issues per my post above...
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I use a Torges seat built for me by my hunting buddy Bamboo. Photos are before I camoed it. Folds up, attaches to the Catquiver with those tie downs and also straps on to my large fanny pack.
When your a ground hunter, you need a lightweight comfortable seat that you can transport and setup up anywhere in seconds. Pics below....
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a281/sf1oak/003_zpsb9022818.jpg) (http://s13.photobucket.com/user/sf1oak/media/003_zpsb9022818.jpg.html)
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a281/sf1oak/001_zps5ba65386.jpg) (http://s13.photobucket.com/user/sf1oak/media/001_zps5ba65386.jpg.html)
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a281/sf1oak/002_zps95100597.jpg) (http://s13.photobucket.com/user/sf1oak/media/002_zps95100597.jpg.html)
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Check out the Hunter's Smart Seat. It is great. I packed it into Colorado. I have the backrest and seat. It is too comfortable. It also acts as a game drag too. It is light and folds down to a small package in your pack.
I bought mine used here on Tradgang.
http://thesmartseat.com/
Gil
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Here's a pic of modified seat..... only one I have on phone
(http://i746.photobucket.com/albums/xx106/Davet1963/20131129_080618_zpszf9hdua7.jpg)
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I actually took my hammock seat and had a custom seat made from sports netting made for it. It now has absolutely no noise and is still very light weight and compacts into a small bundle that easily fits INSIDE my pack. Unless you hunt where there are no trees I can't imagine a situation where this seat will not work well???
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I like the simple triangle three legged folding stool with small backrest. I can carry it in my turkey vest- (I use a vest for all my whitetail hunting- even with a tree stand on my back- with key items accessible in known pockets. Better than a pack to me.) Any type of back quiver can be carried on the vest as well.
One of the BIG reasons I like the stool is I can sit with one buttock on seat and a knee on the ground (can even bury the legs to get closer to the ground). This is a very comfortable position- and my go-to position when I see a deer approach. I can hunker right down on my knee which gives me the pivot as needed.
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I addition to the Waldrop, I also use the Smartseat and a Torges seat like Joe Skipp's. With those 3 you will have all the bases covered.
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The important thing about all seats,can you take the shot you need to pull off. I used my own version of the Torges, one that bit into the tree easier, but that just right tree was never where I wanted it. I mostly used an assemble nifty seat this year, I put a cheap stretchy belt around the shaft and over the seat to keep it out of the way when walking. I prefer something that gives me quick and slent position changing options. Our Iowa deer have a nasty habit of not walking on the trails and coming in on the wrong side.
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I've switched to the 360 seat.
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One of the nice things about a Waldrop......you can use a tree......but don't need a tree as it will free stand like a lawn chair.
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nif-t- seat here. one thing left out of above report is, once the nif-t-seat is set up, it is easily transported if you decide to change locations.
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Tippit x2, Spot 360!
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I just ordered a Spot 360 chair from The Hunting Spot, a sponser on here.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ZtJfCKNjMHE
Heres a video.
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Original Walkstool for me. But no backrest, so I always set up on a tree. 28 oz and rated to hold 495 lbs.
I use it with the legs not extended, which alloys you to slowly pivot while seated.
It's a simple lightweight piece of gear that I expect to provide years of service.
The most comfortable stool I have used (mesh seat). Choosing the correct size however; is key.