Trad Gang

What contraption and where to get for mouth hold?

What weight bow to start with?

I'm going nuts here    :banghead:

Contact Tim Farmer from Kentucky Outdoors. He is a super nice guy to speak with and that's how he shoots.

I am still chuckling about that one Terry...we feel your pain...and a good reminder to us all to count our blessings

DDave

I thought I had posted to this thread earlier.

Terry cut out a leather piece the shape of a tadpole(sorta) then cut a slit in the head so you can pull the tail through it.

Wrap it around your string then put the tail threw the head and pull it tight on your string.

Do not use you front teeth. Start with a very light wt bow until you get the feel for it.

Somewhere in the archives there should be a video of me showing "How-to" with one.

Hang in there my friend....healing will come.

Happy New Year and God bless,Mudd

And make sure your bowstring is in good shape!   :scared:    :scared:

When you rip out your teeth you will screw your anchor with the swelling after implant reconstruction and be too broke for arrows.   :eek:   Seriously though, best of luck with the rehab. About four years ago I blew a distal biceps tendon and had some surgical complications. Started back with an old 40# recurve at about 8 months, about 10 months could hunt with 60#s, and it took about 18 months to get back to 75#s. The comeback was all SAFE with the techniques previously talked about in the heavy bow thread...much of the method was your own advise. You already know it but listen to that tendon.
All the best.

What's funny is I could shoot my bow still before surgery...drawing was NO problem...the release caused a ting in the area....so I didn't push it.

Now I haven't shot at all it 3 weeks.....gotta do 'something'.

  :campfire:

Terry, if you want to start out super light, I have Mohawk longbow that is 66", 33# @ 28". Nothing like what you are used to shooting, but with 1716's and 100 gr points it's not that slow.

I'd be glad to loan it to you for as long as you need it.

Ron

Hey Terry,
I have had a broken collar bone since Sept. 1, I learned to shoot with my teeth this season. It took a while but I finally killed a deer on 12/27.
I used a 40lb longbow. I went to the pet store and bought a  nylon webbed dog collar. I cut the collar to 3" long, then with a nail burned a hole in the the middle toward one end.
Next I went to the local proshop, and had them install a "string loop" which the guys with release's use. I ran the "string loop" through the hole in the nylon webbing, then attached the other end onto the bow string.
To shoot, I would bite down on the webbing with my back teeth, and push out wiht my left hand.
I became quite accurate out the 10-12 yards.
I will try to post pix tomorrow.
Feel free to PM me and I will send you my phone number if you have more questions. I also have a few extra's pieces left of the dog collar, would be willing to send them your way if you want.

chris <><

You could do the Ron LaClair thing and use your foot.

QuoteOriginally posted by Onions:
Hey Terry,
I have had a broken collar bone since Sept. 1, I learned to shoot with my teeth this season. It took a while but I finally killed a deer on 12/27.
I used a 40lb longbow. I went to the pet store and bought a  nylon webbed dog collar. I cut the collar to 3" long, then with a nail burned a hole in the the middle toward one end.
Next I went to the local proshop, and had them install a "string loop" which the guys with release's use. I ran the "string loop" through the hole in the nylon webbing, then attached the other end onto the bow string.
To shoot, I would bite down on the webbing with my back teeth, and push out wiht my left hand.
I became quite accurate out the 10-12 yards.
I will try to post pix tomorrow.
Feel free to PM me and I will send you my phone number if you have more questions. I also have a few extra's pieces left of the dog collar, would be willing to send them your way if you want.

chris <><

That is an awesome accomplishment Onions! A lot of guys would have just sat and sulked! Congrats to you sir!

I hope you have a fast and complete recovery, Terry!

Bisch

Uh oh.   UUUHHHH OOOOHHHHH!!!
I dunno fellas. I think this just may be his "way out" to grt one of those fancy schmancy wheelie bows with a trigger mechanism!!  I thinks it's gettin cold in hell right now.... Just mat freeze over, in fact,    :nono:  
I heard a rumor he bought a domain name.
Compoundgang.com

Terry, a guy I know shoots with his teeth. He uses some sort of leather tab attached to his bowstring. He only has one arm. Believe me. This guy can shoot better with his one arm and teeth than almost anyone I know. He kills multiple deer each season as well. If I shoot with him he will outshoot me. He says that he shoots better now than he did 25 years ago when he lost his arm. I don't doubt him.

As a dentist I can't recommend shooting with your teeth...
( as a regular guy I'd say go for it, good luck, and stay away from your front incisors!  Actually your canines are probably the least likely to fracture.  Your premolars would seem the most natural, but I see a lot of broken buccal (cheek side) cusps on them.  Molars could work and being further back they'd really let you "snug up" into your anchor!)

Thanks Bisch for your kind words! It's been a challenging season, for sure.

I have been busy all morning with snow shoveling and building rainbow loom bracelets (if you have kids you will know what I mean) with the girls.
Heading to the woods shortly, and will be hunting all day tomorrow.
I will get pix out of my set up on Thrus.

chris <><

Is that still " trad shooting?"  Maybe you should look at a foot bow I think they have a lot of potential.

Yep, I would go with my hoof I think.
Shooting my mouth off always gets me in trouble.

Seriously though, I missed what your problem is T, hope you get it healed quick and goodly.

Onion man, Congrats on your deer. COOL!
(I have rainbow bracelets also   :thumbsup: )

Terry,

Check out the New York Bowhunters Association website:  http://www.newyorkbowhunters.com/  Click the "Programs" tab and select 'adaptive equipment'

Whatever you do Terry I know you'll do it well.  I wish you a speedy recovery.

Seems like I saw a video a few years ago of Dwight Schuh shooting a bow using his teeth. I think he said he had two shoulder surgeries.

Here is the system I came up with for shooting with my teeth. Hope this helps!

The tab (nylon dog collar):
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String Loop/mouth tab attachement
 (http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss256/1onions/DSCN0071.jpg) (http://s581.photobucket.com/user/1onions/media/DSCN0071.jpg.html)

Close up of the set up:
 (http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss256/1onions/DSCN0070.jpg) (http://s581.photobucket.com/user/1onions/media/DSCN0070.jpg.html)

chris <><

Thanks guys....hope to get with this this weekend with my lighter selfbow....wish me luck.

Terry  "TAKE A BREAK DONT MESS SOMETHING ELSE UP"
You really don't want to hurt another part do you???   :knothead:      :banghead:

QuoteOriginally posted by Terry Green:
What's funny is I could shoot my bow still before surgery...drawing was NO problem...the release caused a ting in the area....so I didn't push it.

Now I haven't shot at all it 3 weeks.....gotta do 'something'.

   :campfire:  

Can you switch hands?

Shooting with the teeth? I dunno, look what happened to Mongol horse bow master Chuluun Kushi who shot with his teeth while his right hand held the reigns of the horse. I'd wait a couple weeks...

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T , I probably have a fairly light bow if you need one!! Don't tear anything up there!  :)

I think it was Dwight Schuh who did an article for Bowhunter Mag about shooting his bow with a mouth tab. He had to have shoulder surgery right before season and was determined to hunt.  He like "onions" above made made his mouth tab out of a section of nylon dog leash. He was shooting a compound tho.

Heres some info

http://www.pcba-inc.org/adapt-equip/116-making-of-a-mouth-tab

So.  How do ya get the right length chunk of dog collar?
Like tuning arrows, leave it full length and trim a 1/4" at a time until ya stop getting bullwhipped on the tonsils?

   :confused:

Please forward any photos,and instuctions. I help setup an archery( mostly trad. But we do what has to be done for the troops, trad. or not) shoot for wounded warriors and some may need to know How this can be done.
Any and all help is always welcomed>>>-->

Check out Tim Farmer with Kentucky Afield:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6pd_yOEvNo

here is a video on his compound bow set up - but he also uses traditional equipment.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ooYL3bxxBI

shooting with teeth would provide a solid and consistent anchor... interested to see how it turns out for you, Terry! =)

QuoteOriginally posted by calgarychef:
Is that still " trad shooting?"

Seems you always have something like this to say to me, and its getting old....I'm shooting longbows and selfbows....HELLO!!!

  :banghead:    :banghead:    :banghead:

I watched a kid shoot with a strap arrangement around his shoulder, with a mechanical release on it. He had a badly deformed right arm. He would nock his arrow and he would bring his bow in to clip on the release. He drew the arrow with a push away with his good arm. When he was ready to shoot he could reach with his bad arm and touch the release.

I have been getting requests for pix of me at full draw with my mouth tab. I have no pix, but here is a video of me shooting in my backyard (my wife filming, and my #1 fans watching!). The deer target is 12 yards away, the first shot is a complete miss (stage fright), the next shot is in the back of the deer lungs, the 3rd shot sails through the target, dead center of the lungs.
Enjoy!

chris <><

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Cool!!

And wearing your "I conquered the iron buck" tshirt to boot! See ya Friday!
Thom

Yep, the 'chef' is definitely a pop off artist.  Its just not you he does it to.  He's really shoulder chippy it seems, and like to poke and flip at folks all the time.  To me, he really don't fit the TradGang mold if you know what I mean.

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Originally posted by Matty:
Uh oh.   UUUHHHH OOOOHHHHH!!!
I dunno fellas. I think this just may be his "way out" to grt one of those fancy schmancy wheelie bows with a trigger mechanism!!  I thinks it's gettin cold in hell right now.... Just mat freeze over, in fact,      :biglaugh: