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Title: Big River 21st Century
Post by: macster on December 28, 2013, 06:54:00 PM
Thinking of calling and ordering one, maybe with Phenolic riser and strip of carbon with bamboo limbs if these are options. Anyone know the prices of his bows? Thanks for any info.
Title: Re: Big River 21st Century
Post by: macster on December 28, 2013, 08:49:00 PM
Anybody got a lefty 68-70" at 45-50lbs they want to let go?
Title: Re: Big River 21st Century
Post by: Cyclic-Rivers on December 28, 2013, 11:06:00 PM
Here is a phenolic riser and bamboo limbs. 68" and 47 @ 28.  

Great Bows!  I am not sure of his pricing at the moment but you can call him and see what he says.  I think a lot would depend on how easy he can find the materials you want.

Good Luck!

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Title: Re: Big River 21st Century
Post by: OP-archer on December 28, 2013, 11:13:00 PM
Sent you a PM.
Title: Re: Big River 21st Century
Post by: macster on December 29, 2013, 04:58:00 AM
Thanks gentlemen
Title: Re: Big River 21st Century
Post by: Pete McMiller on December 29, 2013, 09:33:00 AM
macster, best to call John and ask.  The last one I got from him was $525 but that was two years ago.  Zircote w/ osage I-beam, boo cores and black glass belly and back.  66" 48@28
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Title: Re: Big River 21st Century
Post by: OP-archer on December 31, 2013, 09:49:00 AM
Sent you an e-mail with pictures.

Rick
Title: Re: Big River 21st Century
Post by: Bernie B. on December 31, 2013, 12:20:00 PM
That's a beautiful bow Charlie!

Bernie Bjorklund

NC Iowa/SW Wisconsin
Title: Re: Big River 21st Century
Post by: on December 31, 2013, 02:13:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Cyclic-Rivers:
Here is a phenolic riser and bamboo limbs. 68" and 47 @ 28.  

Great Bows!  I am not sure of his pricing at the moment but you can call him and see what he says.  I think a lot would depend on how easy he can find the materials you want.

Good Luck!
Charlie, that is one slick looking stick!

Bisch
Title: Re: Big River 21st Century
Post by: ron w on December 31, 2013, 02:58:00 PM
I have shot Charlie's bow...... First couple of shots at 25 yards were right in the kill. Smooth as silk and real pointable. Just a real nice bow.
Title: Re: Big River 21st Century
Post by: Cyclic-Rivers on December 31, 2013, 10:07:00 PM
Some people do not care for the added weight of the phenolic riser.

Although it is noticeable, You dont really notice after carrying it.  

Personally I think the bow is about as good as they get.  

This one is called Ravenous.

Macster, please provide us with pics with whatever you decide on.  we have a hidden Big River bow Cult here at Trad Gang.
Title: Re: Big River 21st Century
Post by: Wudstix on December 31, 2013, 10:22:00 PM
Just sent my deposit (23 Dec) for one of John's 21st clones. I asked for 65#@27 and 62". Gave him pretty free reign to make me a hunting tool, asked that he use what from his experience has performed best. I did suggest to him that I liked the Zircote that is in the riser of my recurve circa 1998. I like the added stability of the slightly heavier wood.  Bamboo cores and possibly curly maple laminations. I'll have to talk with him about horn tips as well.

I'll get pics posted as soon as I get this bow in my hands.      

Just one more !!!

    :thumbsup:          :campfire:          :archer2:
Title: Re: Big River 21st Century
Post by: Cyclic-Rivers on January 01, 2014, 09:33:00 AM
Michael, your bow will be beautiful and a great performer. Looking forward to the pics.
Title: Re: Big River 21st Century
Post by: Panhead Johnson on January 01, 2014, 10:52:00 AM
I have several of Mr. McDonald's bows, two of which are 21st Century style, and one of those has a phenolic riser, which is the one I take to the woods most often. I would post pics but that is far beyond my computer skills. She looks just like Charlie's anyway. I love shooting all of them. I echo Cyclic-Rivers statement- "your bow will be beautiful and a great performer". Can't wait to see the photos. Big River Bow Cult.
Title: Re: Big River 21st Century
Post by: Wudstix on January 01, 2014, 02:12:00 PM
Charlie, I am confident it will be.  That does not make the wait any more bareable.    :thumbsup:      :archer2:
Title: Re: Big River 21st Century
Post by: macster on January 01, 2014, 03:31:00 PM
I'm trying to talk wife into letting me get two of them. 60" for treestands and 70" for 3-D
Title: Re: Big River 21st Century
Post by: Wudstix on January 01, 2014, 03:35:00 PM
Use all my 60#+ bows for both hunting and 3-D.  Makes those targets rock.
Title: Re: Big River 21st Century
Post by: Wudstix on March 13, 2014, 10:15:00 PM
Talked with John the other day.  Bow is getting close with Zircote riser, bamboo cores and Bird's Eye maple laminations.  It might be too pretty to hunt with, Nah!!!!
Title: Re: Big River 21st Century
Post by: dougedwards on March 13, 2014, 10:48:00 PM
with no website.....how does anyone know what they are purchasing and how to make a choice of which to buy?
Title: Re: Big River 21st Century
Post by: Wudstix on March 13, 2014, 11:20:00 PM
There are enough of his bows floating around and I have not heard anyone unhappy with his work.  I saw a recurve a fiend had and told John I wanted a dark heavy wood in the riser, with tunan cnae under glass.  Pretty much took it on faith and am still very happy with this bow.  My longbow should not desappoint.  Will post pics as soon as I can of both.  
 :campfire:
Title: Re: Big River 21st Century
Post by: Cyclic-Rivers on March 14, 2014, 07:44:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by dougedwards:
with no website.....how does anyone know what they are purchasing and how to make a choice of which to buy?
John has a loyal following and usually has people lining up for his bows.

You either trust the master to do his work or you don't, if you don't, buy used or buy elsewhere.  I think people these days get too tied up with what their bow looks like and put what it shoots like in second place.

At Johns point in his life his system serves him well. I doubt he cares about getting hoards of new customers through his doors.  He just wants to build bows for the love of it and to stay busy.

He is doing just that! a Website would probably kill him lol.
Title: Re: Big River 21st Century
Post by: Cyclic-Rivers on March 14, 2014, 07:44:00 AM
Michael, I look forward to seeing your new bow.
Title: Re: Big River 21st Century
Post by: dougedwards on March 14, 2014, 08:11:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Cyclic-Rivers:
 
QuoteOriginally posted by dougedwards:
with no website.....how does anyone know what they are purchasing and how to make a choice of which to buy?
John has a loyal following and usually has people lining up for his bows.

You either trust the master to do his work or you don't, if you don't, buy used or buy elsewhere.  I think people these days get too tied up with what their bow looks like and put what it shoots like in second place.

At Johns point in his life his system serves him well. I doubt he cares about getting hoards of new customers through his doors.  He just wants to build bows for the love of it and to stay busy.

He is doing just that! a Website would probably kill him lol. [/b]
I would like to know about lengths and types of bows available, but maybe ole John is too busy for ordinary guys like myself.  I don't know.

 I do know that I love my 21st Century Edge and this thread caught my eye.

Doug
Title: Re: Big River 21st Century
Post by: SELFBOW19953 on March 14, 2014, 10:53:00 AM
The several times I talked with him on the phone, he was very helpful and answered all my questions, even the stupid ones.  I've owned several of his bows new and used, never been disappointed.  May be time to start a thread with photos of John's handiwork.
Title: Re: Big River 21st Century
Post by: Bigriver on March 14, 2014, 12:04:00 PM
Dougedwards,
please understand John is almost 85 years old, is a one man operation, and has some health issues. He does the best he can, I help him whenever I can.

Like most older fellas, technology for him stops at cell phones. It`s nothing personal, he just makes bows when he wants, he has earned that right.

He is not a sponsor here, so I try not to pump his bows too much out of respect for the other bow sponsors on here who pay the bills. Sometimes I cant help it, I like them that much, as do most of us Bigriver groupies.

Dont take offense, get a hold of him or one of us groupies, & find out what they are all about. Maybe in private.He wont turn down anyone who wants a bow. Hope this helps.

Mods I hope my post is ok, if not, yank her down.
Title: Re: Big River 21st Century
Post by: Wudstix on March 14, 2014, 12:32:00 PM
Amen to what Cyclic River and Bigriver said.  John is a very humble man and makes awesome shooting tools, they usually look pretty good, as well.

 :thumbsup:  

Michael
Title: Re: Big River 21st Century
Post by: dougedwards on March 14, 2014, 12:39:00 PM
Thanks for explanation Bigriver.  I did not intend to cause any disruption.  

Doug
Title: Re: Big River 21st Century
Post by: Cyclic-Rivers on March 14, 2014, 09:25:00 PM
Doug, if you want his contact info, send one of us a PM. we'll be happy to share   :thumbsup:  

I should have re-read my post and hope you didn't take it the wrong way.  I think Brian hit my sentiment a little better.  

Either way, if you are curious about his stuff, give him a call. He is in the midwestern time zone.
Title: Re: Big River 21st Century
Post by: Wudstix on April 19, 2014, 10:15:00 AM
Talked with John a couple days ago and the bow cam in a couple pounds lighter than I wanted at 62", so it will be a 60" bow to get it closer to the 65# I want.  Also, added horn tips.  Zircote riser, bamboo cores, Bird's Eye maple laminations, should be a beauty!!!  
      :thumbsup:  

No worries, 60" will make it a better bow in the Texas brush.
Title: Re: Big River 21st Century
Post by: Warden609 on April 19, 2014, 10:33:00 AM
Sounds like a dandy. Looking forward to some pictures.
Title: Re: Big River 21st Century
Post by: ballen28115 on April 19, 2014, 07:28:00 PM
I bought one from one of our better known Georgia based members.  That bow was such a pleasant surprise to shoot, really quick and dead in the hand.  My second favorite design after Bob Sarrels' Sierra.
Title: Re: Big River 21st Century
Post by: tracker12 on April 19, 2014, 09:17:00 PM
I was lucky enough to pick up one of John's 21 Century copy at a song last fall.  It has been a lot of fn to shoot.  My first but not last longbow.
Title: Re: Big River 21st Century
Post by: T-Bowhunter on April 20, 2014, 07:58:00 AM
Great looking Bow!
Title: Re: Big River 21st Century
Post by: savage1 on April 20, 2014, 09:05:00 AM
If you want craftsmanship buy Big river. If you like
less give Milton a call.
I make my own any more but have personally dealt
With Milton and it was the last time I would.
In hindsite I should thank him as it led to my copying a Jim and Buddy bow, one of four I picked up from Jim at his home long ago.

Lou
Title: Re: Big River 21st Century
Post by: Wudstix on April 22, 2014, 01:14:00 AM
John called today and he is waiting for my check.  Payday on Friday,  check will be headed to Wisconsin, I'm pumped.
  :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: Big River 21st Century
Post by: Terry Banitt on April 22, 2014, 02:20:00 PM
I have 4  Big River Longbows in the shop right now. Give me a Call for more info. Terry
Title: Re: Big River 21st Century
Post by: Moots on April 22, 2014, 06:38:00 PM
I just received a new bow from Mr. McDonald this week -- a 21st Century, bamboo core, yew veneers, osage riser.  68" and 50# @ 30".  I am very pleased to own the bow.  I have owned several of John's bows, and really like this 68" bow.
Title: Re: Big River 21st Century
Post by: Bazooka Joe on April 22, 2014, 07:41:00 PM
Jim Ploen is still alive and around John's age and they talk quite often. I email Jim about once a month and he like John still shoot.

Rick
Title: Re: Big River 21st Century
Post by: Wudstix on April 23, 2014, 07:05:00 PM
Mr. Hansen;

You must have been 1 or 2 in front of me.  We also share a birth date.
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Big River 21st Century
Post by: Wudstix on April 26, 2014, 05:56:00 PM
John should get my money this weekend and hopefully get the bow right in the mail.  Have some new Grizzly Instinct broadheads that need a push.
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Big River 21st Century
Post by: Moots on April 26, 2014, 07:14:00 PM
Michael,

I hope that you enjoy the bow Mr. McDonald is building for you.  

Best,
Rob
Title: Re: Big River 21st Century
Post by: Andrew Holden on April 26, 2014, 09:50:00 PM
I just stopped over to Johns house last week and dropped off two peices of dymond wood for the two bows I have on order with him one for my wife and one for myself. I wanted to get my wife a pretty bow so I had her pick out the color she wanted and since I was ordering hers I figured I'd go ahead and pick out what I wanted. I know John doesnt like going on the internet so I thought it would just be easier to do it. Now its just time to sit back and wait for them to get done.
Title: Re: Big River 21st Century
Post by: Wudstix on April 27, 2014, 10:57:00 AM
I would really like to be able to stop in and talk with John.  We have had some fun with each other on the phone over the years.

Rob, I'm sure I will.
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Big River 21st Century
Post by: Wudstix on May 01, 2014, 09:56:00 PM
Its here!!!!!!  I'll see if I can get some help posting pics from Charlie.

65#@27" so I am pulling @66#, a few more push ups needed!!!!  Hogs be afraid, be very afraid.  If my 63# MOAB blasts through you then, Bu-ah-haaa-haa!!!!!
 :thumbsup: