Soon to order my dream :bigsmyl: bow and I'm considering stadic limbs (only have had full working limbs) what's the diffence :help: the good and the bad. The bow I'm looking at static 7-73/8 brace>>>---> full working limbs 71/4-73/4 brace. Are there any consers :dunno: with a low brace hight?
do a search on static and you should bring up a thread from earlier this year that covered this subject very well.
Mike
I've got a Stalker Coyote with static limbs and really like it. Its the only static limb bow I've ever owned and I think all recurves that I buy in the future will be static tip. From my experience they out perform dynamic limb bows in every category and I've found no disadvantages and no problems of any kind.
Two things on the con side,first you will need a stringer which is the biggest problem for me as a hunter. This only means you need one with you in case you need to replace a string.
The second is if you can't get use to early weight in the draw cycle and then a very smooth draw over the rest of the draw. This for me is no problem because the benefit is a faster bow.
The stringer really is the only thing and I'm willing to make that sacrifice for all the benefits.
Abe
I own 2 Kwyk Styks, an Eagle Wing Steppe Eagle, and owned an RER XR.
I'm completely sold on the static limb concept.
There's only one working limb recurve I plan to buy in the future and that is a BW PCH just because I've wanted one for a while now. Wish they came in static tip.
That aside, the statics I've owned have all been much quieter and faster than working limb recurves I own(ed).
Almost makes me think about getting rid of my longbows...LOL....almost, but not quite!
Read Abe's stringer comment. Then read it again. Never ever use anything but the bowyer recomended stringer on a static tip. I used one not recomemded for my bow once. All I got to keep was the riser.
I have an rer xr and there are no cons. An "almost" con is some early draw weight...but the late "let off" more than makes up for it. Quiet, fast, smooth on the draw. I have no problems stringing mine the non-recommended way.
I have an RER static recurve.. 58 inch at 46lbs and it is one of the nices, smoothest drawing, fastest bows I've ever owned..just a joy to shoot..I'm convinced the modern day statics are the way to go..
But it is a very good idea to use a stringer..I have broken a tip off another bow..it is better to be safe than sorry..I just leave my RER strung up during hunting season..but I always use a stinger on my recurves..
Don't see the cons. My stalker is quiet and preforms well! It's the only type of recurve I'll shoot, just because of the noise difference.
But it is a very good idea to use a stringer..I have broken a tip off another bow..it is better to be safe than sorry..I just leave my RER strung up during hunting season..but I always use a stinger on my recurves..
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I have an RER static recurve.. 58 inch at 46lbs and it is one of the nices, smoothest drawing, fastest bows I've ever owned..just a joy to shoot..I'm convinced the modern day statics are the way to go..
no cons here. I just don't unstring it often, if ever.
I've owned a few RER static tips and have yet to see any cons. I use the push-pull method to string my longbows, but use a stringer for ALL my recurves, so the static tip is no different for me. I have an RER LXR now. The 58"static tip curve limbs are 43# @ 28" and the 62" longbow limbs come in at 46# @ 28", so there are some minor speed differences. They both shoot within a few fps on the technoscreen readout in our archery league, though.
I'm a believer!
I like Static tips......I feel they perform better, at least the ones I have had and still have......there are no cons!!
Like others have said, I don't see any cons. Static tips seem to perform better and are quieter.
cons,
Static tips are more sensitive to finger pressure at release, Static tips generally use a wider thin core limb, which makes them likely to twist, and their string life is shorter.
Pros,Been covered above but better performance. Not buying that.
QuoteOriginally posted by overbo:
cons,
Static tips are more sensitive to finger pressure at release, Static tips generally use a wider thin core limb, which makes them likely to twist, and their string life is shorter.
Pros,Been covered above but better performance. Not buying that.
Respectfully disagree with the above. Wide? You ever see a ballistik or a talon? Not wide at all. Release is no more critical than any other bow. Performance wise they are exceptional when properly designed. String life is the same as any other bow.
overbo, what makes for the shorter string life?
QuoteOriginally posted by overbo:
cons,
Static tips are more sensitive to finger pressure at release, Static tips generally use a wider thin core limb, which makes them likely to twist, and their string life is shorter.
Pros,Been covered above but better performance. Not buying that.
I respectful disagree with all of the above too. There are quite a few Static tip bows out there that have full length width taper to them with narrow working section that are rock solid in the stability dept.
Take a good look at the old Ballistic bows. those limbs were seriously narrow. I designed my own Sasquatch SS after the ballistic design and are just above 1.5" in the working section of the limb and they track like they were on rails.
The only cons about static tip RC bows would be the care it takes stringing them.
I own a RER vital and couldn't discover any con's. I use a bow stringer for all my bows, and a static tip isn't harder to string up then any other bow.
I must also admit that good bows stay good bows. I own two other bows that are not static tips that shoot equally well, much much pre-load too.
I've owned a Ballistic and 2 other static tip RCs. Compared to many other design, they have wide limbs. They may track to their pre-draw position but they can more easily twist to full draw than a narrow thicker core design. Just stands to reason why one must use more caution to string one. We all know what happens if the stringer isn't placed in the center of the limb tips or if you don't pull the bow up in perfect line w/ the stringer. You get a bow that abruptly flips 180 degrees before it's strung. ST's are far more likely to have this happen.
From my experience,
Static tipped RCs aren't as easy to bare shaft as other designs. They seem more critical to shooter's era.
If you like your ST's. Fine, and enjoy shooting them. I couldn't get out of them what I wanted.
http://www.stickbow.com/sovereignarchery/bowdesign2.html
orth reading.
Actually my static limbs profile taper is relative to bow weight. I go from a mid taper to a full tsaper in heavier weights. CAre should be taken in stringing all recurve bow. The lighter weight re especially vulnerable because they inheriently do not have super torsion stabilityHowever this is also correctable. Most problems with Static bows can be tracked down to the bowyer wanting to cookie cutter the limb profiles or not knowing how to adjust to various weights. Also some limb designs are just not all that stable and then we have the problems Stephen is describing. If he had full width limbs from Soverigne then they may have been built when John was in a learning process. All of them I have seen have been a full length taper from 1 5/;8 at the wedge to 3/4 in at the tips. with .0015 taper in the lams. They were also pretty stiff limbs with good stability and wonderful shooters.
God bless, Steve
Not sure about pro's and cons...but I will say I shot a lot of Jack Kempf's Kwyk Styks before they left my shop. They were the smoothest pulling bows I have shot. I haven't shot any other bows that had static limbs or tips from other bowyers but I'm sure they were smooth pulling with no loss of performance.
I have had two RER static limb bows and still have my Orion Static Limb recurve and I can't think of a single con in any of them. The RERs I had didn't fit my hand the way I wanted, but I certainly find no fault with the limbs nor the quality. I've killed deer, turkey, squirrels, rabbits, and a coyote with my Orion. It is incredibly quiet, smooth drawing, and as accurate as my Kanati, which says a lot.
I have a sheepeater spirit, and I've been really impressed by how quiet the bow is. I'm not sure about it, but the static recurve must do something on quieting the bow.