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Title: Could someone help me out ?
Post by: Archeradam on December 17, 2013, 04:43:00 PM
I have just ordered a bow from Mike Mcreedy at Maddog archery, really excited about my bow,
I have ordered a 47 pound at 29.5 inches, I want to get some arrows with it.
So I want to buy the Goldtip traditional 5575/400 (+/-.003) shafts, and do some bareshaft tuning, cut it myself, add on the insert the point, and fletch it myself but NO idea where to buy it from, do I need to buy them with the nock or can I buy it somewhere without a nock and buy the nocks myself??

Everywhere seems to be selling the (+/-.006) shafts can someone help?     :knothead:
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Post by: bogeyrider63 on December 17, 2013, 04:50:00 PM
I think the 5575 are going to be too stiff.
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Post by: Matty on December 17, 2013, 04:58:00 PM
Too stiff. Get 3555 or 1535 from big jim. Click the banner at the top of the page.
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Post by: New Wood on December 17, 2013, 05:02:00 PM
I have a 30" draw and like my own bows to be about 45-47# at that draw length.  I have had good luck using full length 55/75's with 225 grns up front.  100 grn insert and 125 grn field point.

If you are looking for some good shafts at a reasonable price and great customer service I can't recommend Big Jim's GT blems highly enough.  The only blemishes are cosmetic.  Check out Big Jims website, you will not be disappointed.
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Post by: bulldog18 on December 17, 2013, 05:09:00 PM
Big Jim Has 1535's in stock of the blems. No 3555's unless you go with pink Nugents.
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Post by: Archeradam on December 17, 2013, 05:22:00 PM
Thanks alot guys  :)  ok if the 5575 is too stiff should I go with the 3555 or 1535?
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Post by: Archeradam on December 17, 2013, 05:30:00 PM
Oh and If I order some arrow shafts which say nocks and inserts come included in the price, do you think that the nocks are glue in already or can I interchange them to allow for shaft trimming as I have no Idea how much im going to have to trim the bare shaft for my new bow.
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Post by: jrchambers on December 17, 2013, 05:47:00 PM
the nocks should be push in you will have to glue in the inserts.  you should go with the 3555 if you want a average arrow weight if you want a heavy one go with the 5575 and no cutting will be needed just point weight to tune.  I know you could get the 5575s to work but might need 300 in the front.  its a preference thing,  if you are new to trad I would recommend average arrow weight.  for me extra heavy arrows were a little less forgiving to flaws in the shot. not sure why.
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Post by: bulldog18 on December 17, 2013, 05:48:00 PM
I would talk to Mike at Maddog Archery and see what spine he would recommend out of his bows. When you order shafts they usually come with nocks installed and inserts loose so you can cut them or have them cut to length.
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Post by: rick7 on December 17, 2013, 05:51:00 PM
big jim
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Post by: Ghaoth Garrach on December 17, 2013, 05:54:00 PM
I would look into a 3555 or similar shaft.  3 Rivers Archery and Big Jims Bow Company will both have the items you are looking for and also be able to point you in the right direction.  Most carbon shafts will come with nocks but you should have a number of alternate nock choices with the Goldtips' should you choose to do so.
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Post by: Archeradam on December 17, 2013, 05:55:00 PM
Cool thanks ! Ive sent him an email and if all comes down to it ill order the bareshaft tuning kit from 3 rivers which has all 4 spine types of gold tip traditional shafts ! ahh I was told that you were meant to trim the arrows on the nock side. So when it says nocks included I am a bit confused as I thought it left no room for trimming!
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Post by: dhermon85 on December 17, 2013, 06:08:00 PM
As for the .003 vs .006 I doubt you'll notice a difference.
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Post by: jrchambers on December 17, 2013, 06:22:00 PM
the nocks are not glued the just push in and pull out
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Post by: gonefishing600 on December 17, 2013, 07:22:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by bogeyrider63:
I think the 5575 are going to be too stiff.
I shoot 5575 with 145gr up front with my 46# Whip, and get perfect arrow flight. What may be too stiff for one may not be too stiff for another. And for that matter, I shoot 7595 with my 46# A&H.

Why don't you ask the bowyer what he recommends?
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Post by: BigJim on December 17, 2013, 09:25:00 PM
3555's are definitely the way to go. you can make others work, but when you do that, they are much more sensitive to form issues.

We have the 3555's in stock at this time and they are 10% off to boot. Don't have the blems except in the pink nugents. In addition, we have black 3555's with a permanent white cap and they too are 10% off of an already closeout price of 54.99.

The 1535's are definately too week. I have seen them work at 47 lbs but on bows not cut near center or draw lengths much shorter than 29.5".

BIgJim
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Post by: damascusdave on December 17, 2013, 09:36:00 PM
I sent you a private message before I noticed the post by Big Jim so no need to call him...Mike Mecredy also posts here pretty regularly so if calling from the UK is too expensive email or private message on here should work...you can just do a search as Mike uses his name as his member name

DDave
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Post by: H-MANEOD on December 17, 2013, 10:05:00 PM
I've had 3 different maddogs and the 3555 would work much better.
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Post by: VictoryHunter on December 17, 2013, 11:13:00 PM
Big Jim's is the way to go. Gold Tip Traditional 35/55 should be just right.
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Post by: Pheonixarcher on December 18, 2013, 04:22:00 AM
Listen to Big Jim! He knows what he's talking about. I've had really good luck with the 35/55's out of a variety of bows. Different center cuts, and 44-52#. I draw 28", and have had them cut from 28.25-30.5" with various point weights, and have always seemed to get them to fly really well. I do prefer Bohning signature, or Easton super nocks over the GT nocks, as they seem to fit most modern (low stetch, skinny type) strings better.
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Post by: Archeradam on February 15, 2014, 05:17:00 AM
Thanks alot everyone I will trust you guys and buy a batch of 3555's
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Post by: Flying Dutchman on February 16, 2014, 02:48:00 AM
Yup, you will be fine with 3555's
Let us know how things worked  out for you!
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Post by: Fattony77 on February 16, 2014, 03:13:00 AM
BTW, Big Jim had some 35/55 trad blems in stock a couple of days ago when I ordered some.    :D  Should be in any day now! (Stupid holiday weekend means probably Tue or Wed.   :bigsmyl: