I have a pair of un-insulated rubber high top Lacrosse boots that seem to just cause my feet to sweat too much.
They are hot in the Georgia early deer season but that is manageable. The problem is when it is 50 degrees and below.
I have tried walking to my stand in a really light pair of sock liners = cold feet.
I have tried taking my boots off and changing socks to something heavier = cold feet still.
I have tried the chemical insoles but they seem to not get enough oxygen to stay warm even though I give them 20 minutes of open air exposure to start with = cold feet. The chemical warmers start working on the drive back home and last a good while but that is no help.
I have taken my goose down booties in and put my feet in these with the chemical warmers and this works ok but they are not durable and don't work the best when it is 20 degrees and windy. Plus my boots are left to just flood the area with stinky feet smell.
I tried the Arctic Shield boot covers over my rubber boots but they provided almost no warmth = cold feet!
Now I am thinking I need to buy some 2000 gram insulated boots to wear but those generally are made from leather or other materials and are not as waterproof or scent proof. The other big disadvantage is that I am sure my feet would sweat like crazy walking in with anything that offers enough warmth?
It is easier with clothes in that I can dress really light for the hike in and dress up once I get cooled down on the stand. There just does not seem to be a good way to do it for the feet!
Do you guys that use un-insulated rubber boots switch to something else on the stand or only use them in warmer weather?
Thanks,
James
Same here. Why I have to use leather boots with over booties with hand warmers.
If your doing the above and your feet are still cold something may be going on. I have carried my boot socks in my under lYer to stand and work reg cotton in and then took them off placed in a ziplock bag then get out my nice warm wool sox I had against my body and put em on at the stand. But with over boots and hand wRmers in the over boot over a fairly heavy insulated boot and still cold feet. You may have some kind of med condition maybe that may need adressed and would help you out.
I wear rubber boots both insulated and uninsulated down to 20 degrees or lower. I use insulated Red Head-Bone Dry 1200 gram boots when on stand, uninsulated if I'm going to be active.
Redshaft,
I did not try the overboots with insulated boots as I only have the un-insulated Lacrosse. I think the rubber is just really cold and zaps any heat from my feet.
Burnsie,
Do you have to change socks after you walk in with the 1200 gram boots?
Thanks,
James
QuoteOriginally posted by cloudbaseracer:
Redshaft,
I did not try the overboots with insulated boots as I only have the un-insulated Lacrosse. I think the rubber is just really cold and zaps any heat from my feet.
Burnsie,
Do you have to change socks after you walk in with the 1200 gram boots?
Just bare rubber is very cold and will draw heat right out of your foot! No wonder. Yea if you wear a light insulatedboot, say 600 gram and the over boot with chemical warmers in And good wool sox you will be able to sit all day.
You might want to try some antiperspirant on your feet. Certi-dry is the strongest you can buy over the counter. Spray your feet with this stuff before you put your boots on. This will stop your feet from sweating and keep them warmer.
Sorels with felt liners. And wool socks. Waterproof and warm
Sorels with felt liners. And wool socks. Waterproof and warm
Also, there is a thread going on wool insoles from Two Tracks right now. They are a big help; hot weather or cold.
QuoteOriginally posted by Steve O:
Also, there is a thread going on wool insoles from Two Tracks right now. They are a big help; hot weather or cold.
I second that.
My feet will get cold anytime under 45 degrees with regular rubber boots. My muck boots are good to about 28-30. After that I bring out the 1200 gram thinsulate pac boots
The antiperspirant on the feet trick really works. Try it.
Here is the insole thread I was referring to:
Two Tracks Insoles (http://tradgang.com/noncgi/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=105742)
My Muck Wetland boots have never let me down. But, then again, I haven't hunted below 15 degrees with them either. But, otherwise, they've done a great job and are very comfortable.
Right on Dan. Sorels with felt liners and wool socks. Knee deep snow and below zero weather - no problems.
These originally military issued all rubber boots will keep your feet warm but the side valve which is used to equalize pressure at high altitudes should be glued shut for hunting. The downside of these boots is that they are huge but I have no problem using them in cold weather while ascending trees with my Summit climber.
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I was raised in Alaska...my opinion in cold is this...Don't wear rubber boots! The only exception is a Sorel (if extreme cold, wear the glacier, but the pack boots will do ya fine in the lower 48) and keep an extra set of liners. Swap them out daily, so you always have a dry set on.
A few follow-up questions please ---
For you guys that use or suggest Sorel Pac Boots with felt - Do you change the socks you hiked in with to a dry pair or is the moisture not a problem? Can you sit with sweaty feet and still stay warm?
Thanks,
James
I had said in a earlier post. I wear cotton sox in taken off quick on stand and put on my heavy wool sox. The wool felt will put the sweat away from your sox.
I also have found he pull out liners to dry very fast it you take em out at home and place near heat source.
i did something that really helped on my treestand. i bought the neoprene pad that fits on the footrest section of my Summit climber. keeps my feet off the cold metal, and that helps a ton. i think they quit selling those for some reason, though. not sure why. you could buy a sheet of neoprene rubber and trim it to fit your stand, though.
correction - it is still available on their website.
Never had a problem in my Lacrosse and I wear them spring fall and winter. My only complaint is lack of traction but besides that no cold feet here.
Not sure if you can get them in the States...where I live we work outside a lot in sub-zero temperatures...rubber boots with no liners have pretty much become the standard for that work...not your average rubber though...very thick open cell material...check out Baffin Ice Bears on-line as just one example
DDave
Never wear cotton next to your skin-always wool or polypro. If you are forced to have to wear all rubber then go with different socks. I have had very good results from boot liner socks as the first layer next to the skin-then a good quality wool sock.
There is nothing wrong with wearing leather boots/shoes-lots of game has been killed with that type of footwear. I can't stand rubber boots in any temps below 60 degrees. Sweat is a way of the body cooling and rubber just traps that cold sweat inside and with cotton socks your feet will be wet and cold.
I have worn lots of tennis shoes while hunting-even with wool socks my feet stay warm down in the 40's.
Oh and forgot one very important item when wearing any boot on stands-make sure it is oversized for very freedom of movement inside.
I must being lucky with cold feet , I wear Northern Boots , zip up model , insulated . They are relatively cheap and last a few years . I walk at the leastr 1/2 mile and many times further to my stands and it's been in the teens the past week or so . I do put a felt insole in the boots and only wear 1 pair of cotton-wool blend socks and my feet are fine . I never see anyone wearing these but they work great for me , Fred
QuoteOriginally posted by 2Blade:
Never had a problem in my Lacrosse and I wear them spring fall and winter. My only complaint is lack of traction but besides that no cold feet here.
You sir are tough as nails if you can wear those un-insulated straight rubber Lacrosse boots in the winter!!
I am envious!
I hunt Panther Swamp and Delta National in the Mississippi Delta and rubber boots are the only way to go. During the winter we are walking/hunting if water 75% of the time for the most part.
I am a convert to Muck boots, have been using the wetlands model. I got mine a size big, can add a cushion insole in warm weather and thin socks, a pair of thin wicking socks and wool over that without the insole in cold weather. Hunted this year when it was 18 degrees one morning, daylight until 11am, feet were toasty! I love mine more every time I pull them on!
QuoteOriginally posted by cloudbaseracer:
Redshaft,
I did not try the overboots with insulated boots as I only have the un-insulated Lacrosse. I think the rubber is just really cold and zaps any heat from my feet.
Burnsie,
Do you have to change socks after you walk in with the 1200 gram boots?
Thanks,
James
No, have never had to change socks. I wear one pair of good merino wool socks, and I'm good to go. I've been fortunate that I have never really had a problem with my feet getting cold and I've been in some cold stuff.
Another Sorel with felts and wool socks here, though I've been known to shove a small handwarmer on top of my toes on each side. You've got to let them get activated and hot before you shove them in there.
And yes, a cheap pair of Mickey Mouse boots at the Army/Navy store is always an option. They're basically just rubber boots with double felts.
Hello...I'm new to the forum and archery, so don't have much to contribute just yet just lurking around learning. But boots is one thing I have some experience with and thought you might benefit from my experience.
First off, I have very large feet. Well more wide than long. So I have to hunt for the widest boots that a store carries. Before I got my rubber boots, I was using a very nice pair of insulated leather workboots. Well, after slipping, sliding and falling more times than I cared to remember, and getting my feet soaked in ice cold water walking through bog, I bought the rubbers.
What I got was a pretty cheap pair that was rated down to -40 degrees Celcius. I think it was just $49.90. The main thing to me was that this meant the material will not harden in the cold and give me good traction on snow, ice and frozen grass/bush.
The key to warm feet though, lay in these little things called Bama Sockettes. I heard about these from tree planters in the BC wilderness. They frequently need to work in wet and cold conditions high up the mountains and apparently, they swear by these Bamas.
Well gents, I have to say they do. At my last hunting trip, every other guy around me was complaining of cold feet. We were hunting Moose and were very high up the mountains with strong cold winds and wet soggy terrain (well you know what Moose likes). I wore wool blend socks next to my skin, the Bamas and then the insert of the boot.
My sockettes were always wet on the outside only. Don't know how they work, but I guess those tree planters know what they're doing! Inside, my feet were always dry. Hope this helps!