I am sure there is a similar thread out there but here goes anyways. I am on the list for a bow from Big Jim and am having a tough time deciding which one would be best for what I want. I am sure most of these questions would be best suited to Jim, but I would like to have a little more of an idea what I want before we talk. Any input is greatly appreciated!
The only bow I have ever owned is a Browning Nomad Stalker 52" 60# at my 30" draw. When I try to shoot longbow type grips, the string wrecks my arm constantly and the grips feel very unnatural to me.
Also, in case it matters to my questions, I am wanting to get it 65# at 30".
WHich bow would have the most comfortable grip for me/similar to my browning?
My browning stacks really bad past 28" and has an insane amount of string pinch and my ring finger typically stays numb around the clock from shooting it. Can I expect something similar from a Thunderchild?
And most importantly , how loud or silent is the Thunderchild vs the Buffalo ( I am looking for silence)?
Both great bows. TC does everything the Buff does--
Just in a smaller package. I draw 29.25" and the TC was a pleasure at 56". Both bows have a smooth draw that you can count on. The TC in my humble opinion is the prolly the best 'short' longbow out there. The beauty of custom bows is that Jim will make the grip to YOUR preference. He will help you make it your perfect bow. If you are having trouble shooting a longbow it sounds like you're not bending your bow arm enough. Keep a slight bend in your elbow, don't lock out your elbow like shooting a high brace height recurve.
I have them both. Love both of them. If it's about grip, the bit doesn't matter. I sent him a grip I wanted and he matched it on both bows. If you want it like your browning, send it to him and he'll take care of it. It's truly a "custom" bow with Jim. In other words,win win.
I have shot Both the Buffalo and Thunder Child, I purchased the Thunder Child 56" 50# @28 inch. My Bow is Bocote limbs and Zircote/Bocote riser. It is a work of art. I would shoot both bows every time Big Jim was at TBOF shoots in Florida. This went on for several years. I final saved enough money and made the purchase. I prefer the Thunder Child because of the length. The Thunder Child is amazing and does not shoot like a short bow.
I have shot Both the Buffalo and Thunder Child, I purchased the Thunder Child 56" 50# @28 inch. My Bow is Bocote limbs and Zircote/Bocote riser. It is a work of art. I would shoot both bows every time Big Jim was at TBOF shoots in Florida. This went on for several years. I final saved enough money and made the purchase. I prefer the Thunder Child because of the length. The Thunder Child is amazing and does not shoot like a short bow. I think you will be happy with either bow, Good Luck with your purchase.
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65# @ 30" Why. What are you going to shoot. The longbow is held different than a recurve. So all the habits you have from shooting the recurve should be modified. The BACK of your bow hand should be nearly straight and the heel of your thumb should be pushing on the grip more than the web of your hand like the recurve. You will face the target more head on and break your elbow a little. I squeeze hard with my bottom two fingers on the bow hand as I draw. This seems to keep the grip right for me.
Your first longbow. You should really have fun. I would try and find a couple shooters near you and shoot a little with them. Also masters of the bare bow is good DVD. And surely I would drop the weight to 50# or under. I am sure unless you are going after really big stuff you will find a lighter bow very easy to shoot.
I have a TC and love it. Mine is a take down that makes travel really easy. The bow breaks down and fits in my Safarii Tuff quiver and is a very compact travel package that has everything I need to hunt/ shoot.
My vote would be for the TC. :D
And,... as everyone says, Big Jim is an artist that builds deadly art.
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This is "Ursa", Purple heart, Walnut and Cocobolo on the limbs.
Had a Buffalo but keeping my TC, what a great longbow in a short package.
I have both and like them both. The TC is the only short bow I've ever really liked. I have a 29" draw, my TC is 58" and my Buff is 64". Both shoot great,
I have been shooting my recurve a lot lately, but also enjoy shooting my Buff and TC.
After taking the Rod Jenkins clinic, my draw length changed slightly and went from 30.5" to 31.5"+...still working on it but it is going well.
I find the bow lengths of a 58" TC, a 64" Buffalo and a 62" Desert Bighorn (I really like me 60" curve too) to be very comfortable at my 31.5" draw.
I will say that I have dropped to 54#'s while I have been working on form and my shooting (down from 82#'s) It works and is all I can handle accurately at this time, but it feels no different than my heavy bow felt when I shot it a lot. Ultimately you will get comfortable and your muscles will atrophe (or build if done properly) to the most amount of work you put them through.
thanks guys, BigJIm
I've had both, I now only have the TC---two of them. Nothing wrong with the Buf, just seemed to shoot The TC better.
Besides having the opportunity to test yourselve, Big Jim's straight forward and knowledgeable guidance would far exceed anything I may be able to offer.
I have watched Big Jim up front disclose that a particular bow was a poor fit to an eager cash-in-hand prospective buyer. The prospective buyer appreciated his advice and left with cash-in-hand.
Big Jim is one of those special bowyers that I feel somewhat guilty for not owning one.
Note: Both bows are excellent and I have shot them both on numerous occasions.
Your in good hands with Jim.
I went with the style grip Jim makes on my buffalo. I have a bob lee recurve and I felt the grip was to big for me comfortable but big. Not haveing a lot of experience or a preferanc with different grips other than my lee my sons bear grizzly and the multiple compounds I have had every bow I have had I shot it the way the grip dictated was the best way for me to shoot that particular bow be it a high wrist a straight wrist or a low wrist.
So that said.. I entrusted Jim to make me what he liked. And ya know so far I like it . So don't be afraid to try something new.
Good luck Tim
I have a 64" Buff [about 30" draw] and I can tell you it really spits an arrow out there for a longbow. Between it and my recurve its a totally different animal as some have mentioned requiring different grip.
It took me a few shooting sessions at a blank bale to find out what the bow prefers. These will have a bit more kick than a recurve that takes a bit of getting used to. I can't give much comparison data- I'm a lefty that hasn't been able to find much to try.
I have the Dalmation ebony and anyone who sees it just says, "Wow!"
Two piece thunder child at 58" would be pretty sweet and dang hard to beat , just sayin :wavey:
Thanks for all the great info guys! It sounds like a TC might be the direction I am headed! I am like a toddler drinking red bull waiting on my name to come up on the list...lol
As compared to any other longbow, how quiet/loud is it? Or how does it compare noise wise?
Mine are both dead quiet, its one of the things that really sold me on Jim's bows.
I own 4 of Jim's Buffalos. I don't have a TC, but i've shot them plenty. It really doesn't matter what you decide on, you will be most pleased with either. The fact that they are quiet, dead in hand, smooth and deadly is a given....but the beauty of his work is hard to beat.
TC it is! Thank you gentlemen.
Well you decided on bow . Now what wood you going to get. I just received a new to me big Jim TC and haven't got to shoot it but 5 or 10 shots today. But I am on big Jim's list also . I am leaning towards the Buffalo longbow myself.
I have never shot the TC but own a 60" buffalo. The buffalo has been the best bow for me so far. Critters just don't last long if they get in range of the buffalo!
I own a 62" Buff. It is my favorite bow by far.
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Well you decided on bow . Now what wood you going to get. I just received a new to me big Jim TC and haven't got to shoot it but 5 or 10 shots today. But I am on big Jim's list also . I am leaning towards the Buffalo longbow myself.
As of now... 2 piece takedown RH TC
-As high a grip as Jim will do on a TD
- On the limbs I think its called action wood (plywood) with bamboo center, but the wood thats green, brown and black camo type colors. I want a lot of green and just a little black and brown. Gonna let Jim have his way with the riser, I just want it with brown and green and a little black wood.
-Brown Beaver grip
-micarta tips
Sounds nice. I like those sort of camo looking bows. I've never seen one from Big Jim. I've got a Buffalo that I really like.
Yeah man, I really like the look of 3 rivers's tomahawk woodland hunter bow.
Yep his two piece is really cool.
I have owned a few Thunder Childs and I have shot the buff. I prefer the TC.
I own one of each they shoot the same for me! Love them both, I bought them used on here just couldn't wait, lol.
I own a buffalo and have shot a thunderchild. They are both great bows. I think the TC is as quiet, maybe even quieter than the buffalo.
I have a 62" Buffalo Bow and a 56" TC. Like them both, but I find the TC a little handier due to the length. Also, the grip is a bit slimmer on the one I have. Both are super bows, though, and you can't go wrong with either one. Big Jim is quite a craftsman, with an artist's eye.
Funny, reading this thread today... I told my wife earlier today that my two favorite bows (lately) have been my used Buff and TC. These two are the only used bows that I own and they get shot a lot.
Big Jim is truly an artist with his work and his customer service. Jim's bows shoot as well as they look, and that's pretty nice. I do buy all of my arrows from his store and anything else that I need that he carries.
I have a bow being built now (another bowyer) that I ordered a good while back, before I had my TC. If I had my TC when I made the order it would have been a 2 piece TC instead of the bow that I went with.
Enjoy your new bow when it comes in. Make sure and start a new thread with pictures :thumbsup:
It states you are from LA/MS. I live in south Ms north of Baton Rouge and you are welcome to shoot my 58" Thunderchild if the drive is not too far for you.
Go ahead and get both.I love them both
Cant go wrong with either one, he builds an awsome bow
Larry
I have both... Been shootin' my TCs exclusively for 2 years now. Love them.
Might bring a Buff on a pig hunt in a week though! :bigsmyl:
I know I'm not helping!
Seriously, amazing bows, both. Do yourself a favor, buy it 2 pieces with a beaver tail handle.
F-Manny
I am often asked about what I like the best, Buff or Tc...one or two piece.
My answer is nearly always the same "The bow I like the best is the one I left in the truck the day before" I find it easy to switch from one to the other. I also rarely build a one piece for myself and although the majority of my traveling is by truck nowadays, It is very handy to have the TD option. Nearly 80% of my "custom" customers agree with that.
The best advise I can give though is when shooting whatever bow you choose, try to put your full concentration into the target and not the bow for at that moment, it is the most important thing!
Thanks for all the kind words....feel free to keep talking :)
BIgJIm