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Title: new bow problem, please help!!!
Post by: jarheadusmc on December 13, 2013, 08:34:00 PM
Just bought a used Thunderstick lll. Super clean, like new. Shoots right where I look. It has a knock in it. Sounds like arrow hitting riser or rest. Tried all different spine arrows, moved nock point and brace height. Still has knock in it. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, Mark
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Post by: Roadkill on December 13, 2013, 09:07:00 PM
Might try a little baby powder on the shelf area to determine if there is excessive contact.

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Post by: Keith Zimmerman on December 13, 2013, 09:36:00 PM
If its a 3pc, put a bunch of wax under the limbs and around the bolt threads.
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Post by: jarheadusmc on December 13, 2013, 10:20:00 PM
It's a one piece, 64" 56# @ 28"
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Post by: Orion on December 13, 2013, 10:41:00 PM
It's either a spine problem, a brace height that's too low, a nock point that's too low, or something in your form, probably plucking.  You say you've moved the brace height and nocking point.  May need to make bigger adjustments than you have.  Only work with one at a time.  What is your current brace height and height of nock point above the shelf?
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Post by: jarheadusmc on December 14, 2013, 07:30:00 AM
I've gone as high as 3/4" high and 3/8" low on nock point. The bowyer recommend 7" brace height and go up from there. I've gone as high as 7 1/2". I've shot 50-55lb cedars, 2018 aluminums, microflite 8,9,&10's through it and still have a knock in it. Replaced rest also.
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Post by: Jim Brennen on December 14, 2013, 07:49:00 AM
I have a bow that if you put a bottom limb protector on it no matter what spine arrow or anything else,the arrows bangs off the riser.Only bow I ever experienced this with.
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Post by: ChekDE on December 14, 2013, 08:35:00 AM
I agree with Orion.  It's got to be one of the four issues he listed.  Did a string come with the bow?  Contact the previous owner and see how they had it set up if you can.    I would still bet on brace height.  Eliminate that option first before you start other adjustments.
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Post by: ChekDE on December 14, 2013, 08:36:00 AM
I agree with Orion.  It's got to be one of the four issues he listed.  Did a string come with the bow?  Contact the previous owner and see how they had it set up if you can.    I would still bet on brace height.  Eliminate that option first before you start other adjustments.
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Post by: Swamp Yankee on December 14, 2013, 09:27:00 AM
In addition to all the good suggestions above, you might try double nocking points; one above and one below the nock.  Some bows do better set up that way.
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Post by: xtrema312 on December 14, 2013, 10:06:00 AM
Two nock point for sure to eliminate slide down. I like to use a little white electrical tape.  You can try some masking tape also.  Put it on the rest and loose over the shelf.  You should be able to see rubs if you are hitting.  

Are you shooting split of 3U?  Is your draw a true 28"?  Most TS bows I have had will shoot reasonable with 5/8" knock point height both spit and 3U, but everyone is different.  

See if you can measure center cut.  Makes a big difference.  I have two MOAB's with different center cut and they like quite different arrows.
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Post by: 2treks on December 14, 2013, 10:12:00 AM
Nock to tight on string??
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Post by: kat on December 14, 2013, 10:13:00 AM
Have you had someone else shoot the bow? If they don't get the same knock, then it may be a form issue.(plucking)
Been there, done that.
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Post by: Bud B. on December 14, 2013, 11:09:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Two Tracks:
Nock to tight on string??
As I was reading down the posts this was a question I had.

If you have a dry erase marker (blue works well) try shooting an arrow with a 1/2" wide "cresting ring" painted on the arrow in front of the fletching and shoot a bit. Look at the arrow and the bow. If you see any marks on either (rubs/scuffs in blue) then that's where you're hitting. If no marks are left, try a ring about 1/2" wide between the nock and the top of the fletching and do the same. If nothing still, try a mark along the lower inside part of the arrow (arrow horizontal and ready to shoot on the bow lower- not point lower) between fletching the full length of the fletching and the part closest to the bow shelf that's likely to hit and see what's happening. Through trial and error you can figure it out this way. The dry erase should clean off/up easily with windex or any mild glass cleaner.
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Post by: trad_bowhunter1965 on December 14, 2013, 12:07:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Two Tracks:
Nock to tight on string??
I am with Two Tracks check you nock.
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Post by: jsweka on December 14, 2013, 12:24:00 PM
Try cock feather in.
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Post by: cahaba on December 14, 2013, 06:52:00 PM
Sound to me like you are torqueing the limbs. Try working with gripping it differently. I know if I don't hold my bows right they will make the same sound. Try holding the bow loosely. Try different hand placement etc. You have a fine bow so I don't think it's an equipment problem.
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Post by: Yellow Dog on December 14, 2013, 07:16:00 PM
What is your draw length? Try short drawing the bow by an inch and fling a few arrows to see if you still get the clank off the riser.
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Post by: Tedd on December 14, 2013, 08:20:00 PM
tight nock
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Post by: Bob Morrison on December 14, 2013, 08:37:00 PM
put a 2nd nock point on the string.
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Post by: NOMAD88 on December 15, 2013, 02:34:00 PM
Curious to see if any of these suggestions worked   :jumper:
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Post by: sirachki on December 15, 2013, 04:51:00 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UK_7sNUMaT8
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Post by: sirachki on December 15, 2013, 04:53:00 PM
I hope to help ...
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Post by: jarheadusmc on December 16, 2013, 08:59:00 AM
The bow does have two nock points. Don't believe I'm torqueing the bow. Nocks seem fine also. Raised the brace height to 8". That seems to have worked the best. Sure seems high for that bow. Though it has helped. Noise is still there slightly. Gonna keep messing w/ brace height. Thanks for all your inputs.
Mark
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Post by: jarheadusmc on December 16, 2013, 03:13:00 PM
up date ! Shot this bow quit a bit indoors today. Seems best at 8 3/8" brace and 5/8" nock point. Still loader than I like. But most of the knock is gone. shooting 6" 3 arrow groups @ 18/20yrds. A friend of mine has same bow just older. his brace is 7 1/4". Much more quiet than my bow. His rest and side plate has a thin strip of leather in the middle and under them to raise the arrow. He received the bow this way. What is the purpose of this, and could this be the reason his is so much more quiet? Thanks for everything. Its coming along!
Mark
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Post by: Dan bree on December 16, 2013, 03:27:00 PM
I have a hill takedown. With. The same problem.  Raised the rest  with double  Velcro  on the shelve   And single. On the riser. It got better.  I think it's a tiller problem?