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Title: Savage death master
Post by: rambo1993 on November 21, 2013, 01:37:00 PM
Hello everyoe wanted some info and known where abouts of savage deathmaster recurve I've wanted one a long time and would love some more info and if anyone knows a place I can get ahold of one please let me know thanks everyone hope you all have. Great holiday and lots of blood trails to follow a short distance
Title: Re: Savage death master
Post by: jess stuart on November 21, 2013, 02:37:00 PM
Me too, would love to find one.
Title: Re: Savage death master
Post by: reddogge on November 21, 2013, 05:50:00 PM
Ha ha. It's the hen's teeth of bows. Maybe when Frisky dies you can inherit one of his. The best I can come up with is he promised if he came east I could shoot one of his.
Title: Re: Savage death master
Post by: Austin Brown on November 21, 2013, 05:57:00 PM
They are terrific shooters, I owned a 68# for a while.
Title: Re: Savage death master
Post by: rambo1993 on November 21, 2013, 06:47:00 PM
Im itching to get my hands on one I'd even trade one of my nicest customs for one hahaha
Title: Re: Savage death master
Post by: DEATHMASTER on November 22, 2013, 08:15:00 AM
I even have the name (DEATHMASTER) but ran several want ads and not a single offer for one. Have looked for years and only one with a broke limb. I WANT one bad also.
Title: Re: Savage death master
Post by: Caddo on November 22, 2013, 09:44:00 AM
Join the crowd! I've been looking for one for a long time. Seem as though there are a lot of folks looking for them and those that have them aren't giving them up.

LD
Title: Re: Savage death master
Post by: reddogge on November 22, 2013, 10:30:00 AM
Since they were made in only 55-70# unless special order and also only RH unles special ordered they didn't fit into a lot of shooter's specs. so I don't think there are a lot of them around, certainly not the originals made by Bob Savage. Perhaps more by Owen Jeffrey.

Certainly a mystique around them as far as speed and shooting goes but you could probably duplicate that today with modern materials. Border limbs would probably outperform it. It certainly would be a very collectable bow.
Title: Re: Savage death master
Post by: Frisky on November 22, 2013, 11:55:00 PM
It's the BOW of BOWS, but even this blistering fast and quiet bow is no better than the shooter behind it. A fast miss is still a miss, lol! Mine, at 54#, is the lightest I've found. Most were 60+ pounds and they were never offered with an insert for a fishing reel. Not that anyone would bowfish with one.

Joe
Title: Re: Savage death master
Post by: on November 23, 2013, 01:35:00 AM
I don't think the Deathmaster shot an arrow any faster than the Tice and Watts. They were great bows, I wonder if the one I had is still shooting?
Title: Re: Savage death master
Post by: Frisky on November 23, 2013, 03:03:00 AM
Tink Nathan did a bow test on the Tice and Watts Spartan Hunter. They were very fast bows. However, I'll look up the test speeds, because I don't think they were as fast as the Deathmaster. If I didn't find a Deathmaster, I had planned to get a Spartan Hunter. Reddogge has a couple of them, so he's set. The place to find a Deathmaster is Montana. Most were sold there. I got mine from a guy in Montana known as "Radical" Roy Jones.

Joe
Title: Re: Savage death master
Post by: Frisky on November 23, 2013, 03:39:00 AM
I looked up Tink's test. It's in the June 74' issue of Bowhunter mag. and is entitled "Texas Test." Tink states, "For my money, this bow is the fastest recurve made." He was talking about the Tice and Watts Spartan Hunter. He said Lovell Tice tested the bow against many others and it outperformed them all. He said it was also "dead in the hand" meaning it had no felt hand shock. He said only compounds tested higher in efficiency. Well, in 79' Steve Gorr wrote he'd never seen a compound bow that could outshoot a Gamemaster Jet or a Deathmaster in flight competition, provided heavy arrows were used. Bob Savage insists his bows were faster than the Jets. I think the Deathmaster and the Spartan Hunter are probably about equal.

Joe
Title: Re: Savage death master
Post by: Jack Whitmire Jr on November 23, 2013, 05:16:00 AM
There is a Tice and Watts on the Auction site right now .
Title: Re: Savage death master
Post by: Paul J. on November 23, 2013, 07:48:00 AM
Ironic to see this thread. I just started shootin
mine again last week. I have a blind that calls for
a short bow. I bought the Deathmaster from Gene Wensel several years ago. It is 61# @ 28". 55". Was
made by Bob Savage for Gene to hunt mountain goats.
Also have another Deathmaster that was made by Rocky
Miller, but with a small crack where the limb meets
the riser.
Title: Re: Savage death master
Post by: rambo1993 on November 23, 2013, 04:39:00 PM
Omg all this talk I'd give my best custom for one In a split second :/
Title: Re: Savage death master
Post by: Frisky on November 23, 2013, 05:58:00 PM
I used to tell people they could have mine when they pried it from my cold, dead and bloody fingers. I stopped saying that after I got to thinking someone might take me up on the deal, lol!

Joe
Title: Re: Savage death master
Post by: Frisky on November 23, 2013, 06:46:00 PM
Bob told me his daughter got one of the 55" bows in the mid 40 pound range at a garage sale. She paid about $90 for it, lol! So, he did make lighter drawing bows. He made bows for kids too.

Joe
Title: Re: Savage death master
Post by: rambo1993 on November 23, 2013, 08:19:00 PM
Lol yeah is bob still alive ??
Title: Re: Savage death master
Post by: Walt Francis on November 23, 2013, 09:22:00 PM
Bob still lives in Bozeman but I do not think he has made a glass bow in quite a while.  Sometimes he jumps in and help on the group selfbows built a different TBM functions.

Mark Baker did an interview with Bob and it was published in TBM.   Think it was within the last year.
Title: Re: Savage death master
Post by: Frisky on November 23, 2013, 09:22:00 PM
Yep. I talked to him not that long ago. He still hunts, is retired but not building bows.

Joe
Title: Re: Savage death master
Post by: Cootling on November 23, 2013, 11:01:00 PM
I had one made by Rocky Miller.  It was reasonably quick and it was quiet. Still, it ranked lower than other custom bows I've owned.  If you can't find one, consider other similarly styled bows.  I've owned several I preferred.
Title: Re: Savage death master
Post by: Frisky on November 23, 2013, 11:14:00 PM
The interview with Bob was published in the Aug/Sept issue of Traditional Bowhunter mag. Back issues cost $5.00 shipped and are still available.

Joe
Title: Re: Savage death master
Post by: rambo1993 on November 24, 2013, 12:20:00 PM
Who makes a similar bow I know the caribow one pice tuktu recurve looks similar I wish I could get my hands on one this is so hard hahah
Title: Re: Savage death master
Post by: Frisky on November 24, 2013, 01:11:00 PM
The one piece Silvertip has the Deathmaster limb design according to Bob Savage.

Joe
Title: Re: Savage death master
Post by: reddogge on November 24, 2013, 05:40:00 PM
Frisky, interesting comments on the Tice and Watts Spartan Hunters. I have a 58" 50# Spartan Hunter and a 60" 55# Spartan Hunter. They had a reputation back in the early 70s of being pretty quick bows. I joke to my friends I'm the biggest Tice and Watts collector around with two.

My hunting and shooting friend used to be a Tice and Watts dealer.
Title: Re: Savage death master
Post by: Frisky on November 24, 2013, 08:44:00 PM
Reddogge- you have two of the best! Especially the 58", 50 pounder. That's the bow I was looking for until I got the Deathmaster. They were really fast shooters. If I had found one, I wouldn't have bothered buying my Deathmaster. Now, if I ever get out east, I'll have to shoot your Tice and Watts, lol! The good thing about Tice and Watts bows is they come up for sale on occasion. Not the 58" though.

Joe
Title: Re: Savage death master
Post by: reddogge on November 25, 2013, 09:37:00 AM
Frisky,
Here you go, my Tice and Watts "collection". I bought that 58" bow about 5 years ago and paid what I thought was a high price $250 but I wanted it. I met the seller at a big shoot and he said "Oh, you were the guy I sold the Tice and Watts too. I knew you wanted it so I jacked the price up on you. I think I paid $90 for it." Classy guy.

 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/reddogge/Archery/IMG_1085.jpg)
Title: Re: Savage death master
Post by: Frisky on November 25, 2013, 12:54:00 PM
The cheapskate will lose 10 times more due to that behavior, lol! I paid $175, plus shipping, for my Deathmaster. That was in 2003.

Joe
Title: Re: Savage death master
Post by: Jeff Roark on November 25, 2013, 01:33:00 PM
I bought a sweet Deathmaster from Austin Brown on here a few months ago. Its 68# and it's a flame thrower.
Title: Re: Savage death master
Post by: reddogge on November 25, 2013, 01:58:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Frisky:
The cheapskate will lose 10 times more due to that behavior, lol! I paid $175, plus shipping, for my Deathmaster. That was in 2003.

Joe
He'll never get another nickle from me.
Title: Re: Savage death master
Post by: Frisky on November 25, 2013, 03:11:00 PM
There's another bow they're talking about on the other forum that blew smoke too. The "El Lobo." Bob Savage said Fred Anderson's Fasco bows were "perfect bows."

Yes, I wouldn't buy anything from a money-grubber. The Tice and Watts looks like it has a great grip size and shape.

Joe