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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: ranger 3 on November 19, 2013, 01:33:00 PM
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I have tried and tried different long bows and just can't shoot them. My latest is a Cari-bow peregrine 49@28, just got it from Abe 10/31 and thinking about selling it. I just shoot mu PTFX better.
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There is no rule to like a certain style bow. Either it works for you or it doesn't.
I've own a number of longbows and know that some work for me and others do not.
I'm curious; have you shot any longbows with a recurve style grip?
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This type of thing has always amazed me.... Im a longbow guy myself, after some time with recurves. I can shoot the recurve just fine. I just like the longbow better. Not even sure why to be honest. Subtleties and the feel I guess. But still, I can shoot both. I feel like I can shoot just about anything, especially if I have a little time to play around with the bow, shooting a bow to what THE BOW is built to perform as and not so much what I WANT to force it to do. Sorry if I sound confusing.....I just do find it so interesting....and a testament I guess to just how personal stick bows can be to the archers using them.
Shoot what you shoot best and dont look back!
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Me, I like recurves and longbows and selfbows...
I shoot them all the same anyway. ;)
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I am changing from one piece Hill style bows to recurves. I like the way a recurve shoots and the grip if it is made to fit my hand. I am also going to try some 3 piece longbows with more of a recurve grip. I don't think it is a bad idea to experiment but I think if you shoot with a bowyer you will learn more in a day, than 10 years on your own. Follow shooters all have ideas and a little from each one is worth trying.
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I just don't like it and it has a slight recurve grip. It has to be the fastest bow I have shot, I am trying to like it I really am.
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Could you guys wait about 6 months before you start putting those Hill styles in the classifieds since I'm so poor I can't even pay attention...lol
God bless,Mudd
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The neat thing is that there are no "rules" in what we do as archers. We are totally free to make our own decisions.
That said, I wish I had a nickle for every time I see a post that says something like "I don't like ...," or "that just doesn't work for me..., " etc.
Ranger 3, I truly understand your position BUT making a relatively expensive decision to sell a new bow after about 3 weeks and how many times you've shot it is not giving yourself or the new bow a chance at all!! It's almost as bad as the "I tried that last night and it doesn't work for me."
GADS, give the new technique, equipment, whatever a fair chance -- like 2 or 3 months of shooting the "new" exclusively. You can't buy success or expertise, only learn it. And that takes time!
FWIW
Arne
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yep give it some time...it just might grow on ya and besides it will be worth just as much next spring as it is now...(used is used imo)
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Try a Centaur. Grip is similar to a recurve and shoots pretty flat much like a recurve
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if not just clicking and working for you...no worries. sell and get a recurve or something that will work for you. just focus and give it time as any bow will be slightly different...but nothing wrong with not liking longbows or recurves for that matter.
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I like them all . All bows are fun to shoot. If you don't like it send it to me and I will make sure it will not give you any more problems. :rolleyes: Just hang on to it for now. When you go to shoot it don't go to see how good you shoot go and( play )with it. Have fun with it do not worry how you or the bows doing .Just go play with it .
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I agree with Moe, give it some time, I was lucky and picked up a long bow and had very minor problems, look at moebow's post on holding a bow, maybe he can give you the exact heading of that post so you can do a search, I know it helped me quite a bit.
Good luck.
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Originally posted by ranger 3:
I just don't like it and it has a slight recurve grip. It has to be the fastest bow I have shot, I am trying to like it I really am.
this debate is interesting
hold on with selling bow
and try to explain to us what is wrong
why i ask to explanation from you , because i needed 4 months to start shooting my hybrid properly
speak :campfire:
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Most of the time, the shape of the grip has more to do with how one shoots a bow than the shape of the limbs.
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Originally posted by pavan:
Most of the time, the shape of the grip has more to do with how one shoots a bow than the shape of the limbs.
X2...
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I too prefer shooting a recurve. Mainly because I believe the mass weight in the riser makes me a "steadier". My favorite recurve has a riser made from black ebony. My longbow buddies give me a bad time about how heavy it is, but cripes I feel confident hunting with it. To each their own...
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+1 for getting a Centaur :)
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ranger3,
when you shoot your longbow do you have a quiver on it , if not try one and see if the mass weight makes a difference. i have the same problem and solved it this way. but give it some time.
Ken
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Don't give it up yet.
Not all LB's are are cut to center as most all recurves are. If my memory serves me right to qualify as a LB in competition, it cannot be cut any closer to center than 1/8". Which will require an arrow of lesser spine and/or some cant to the bow when shot. The arrow/bow must be "tuned" to a much greater degree than a recurve.
Good luck
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If you do decide to part with your longbow, get up with Abe. Maybe he can help you limit your loss in some kind of deal with a recurve.
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I used to own a Peregrine. Yes, it is a fast bow, and Abe builds some beautiful bows! I hope this bow works out for you, but if it doesn't, I'm sure that you can easily sell it.
Best of luck!
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Ranger 3, What MoeBow said.... he never gives bad advice.
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remember it is supposed to be fun.... so shoot what you enjoy shooting and be at peace.
Joe
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I shoot recurves better but hunt better with longbows. Go figure?
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Don’t believe that all bows will conform to me.
Nor do I believe that I am able to conform to all bows.
However, I do believe that the bow must be permitted to shoot for it has no other objective than to place the arrow on the mark.
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Originally posted by ranger 3:
I have tried and tried different long bows and just can't shoot them. My latest is a Cari-bow peregrine 49@28, just got it from Abe 10/31 and thinking about selling it. I just shoot mu PTFX better.
I have resigned myself to being a recurve shooter. And you know, that's OK. Once you get over the shame of using a higher performing bow it's not that bad. ;-)
Most longbows I see being used are American Flatbows and the grips are not far removed from recurves. The distinction between recurve, reflex/deflex, longbow, etc. has been well blurred.
So long as you are shooting wood arrows it really doesn't matter; you'll probably still get into Heaven. :biglaugh:
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Originally posted by pavan:
Most of the time, the shape of the grip has more to do with how one shoots a bow than the shape of the limbs.
x2
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A lot of it depends on what you are used to vs expectations of switching to a different style of bow. Longbows with smaller and lighter risers are definitely harder to shoot compared to a recurve (especially widows with their massive risers). If you have been shooting a metal riser ILF target bow, switching to a trad wood recurve will have the same effect. The same can be said of the ilf bow coming from compound bow. Someone who has been shooting a 53" horsebow will find that longbow amazingly easy to shoot. There will always be a initial learning curve when going down the tech tree and up in primitiveness. It also helps to start at a lower draw weight than what you think you can pull and learn to shoot all over again.
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Just hang in there. I own a Peregrine for years now and it is my opinion it is one of the best hybrids out there. You probably just get to get used to it.
Main difference with your Widow will be the difference in mass. If you have shot your widow for years, you need some time to get used to the lower mass of the Peregrine.
Then there is the center-cut issue. Typically, BW recurves are cut 3/16 past center. The Peregrine is center- cut. This is a huge difference and you will need defenitely shafts with a lower spine.
Then there is the grip. A Peregrine has a very moderate recurve grip and it will be different from your BW.
All this means you will need some time to get used to your Peregrine. And you will have to tune your arrows.
But I will promise you one thing bro: once you get the hang of it, you will have a hard time to stop shooting! The Peregrine is a fantastic bow.
I also own 3 pce recurves, but I can shoot all bows equally well. Just keep in mind that each bow is different and it takes some time to learn how to shoot them.
Btw: I tried a quiver on my Peregrine, but I didn't like it at all. But I sure do like them on my recurves.
Now go out there, make sure you have the right arrows and you have tuned that Peregrine and shoot the heck out of it for a few weeks!
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thanks for all your encouragement
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Life is short. Shoot what makes you happy.
Isn't that what it is all about?
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Ad,
Great advice as always! Hope you are well.
Rob
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When I first got my Maddog longbow, it was really different than what I was used to. I liked it, but I knew it would take some time to get.....comfortable...with it. I don't like change, but it pays to be patient. Maybe give your Peregrine a little more time.
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Find a Habu or eagle wing and you be happy. Grip of recurve and quietness of longbow. Plus both are fast!