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Title: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Cari-bow on November 09, 2013, 03:14:00 PM
Here is the deal. I had an accident in my shop where a new Tuktu TD Ex went flying around in my shop and hit a few things. I have 3 white spots on the limb so it won't go up for sale. I have shot it many times and I don't think there is any problem shooting it. Eventually it will become a backup bow for myself. If I have enough interest I will send it out for testing.

The bow is a 60" 54# @ 28" it has a flared riser with shedua and wenge in the riser, the limb veneer is shedua on the face and  striped myrtle on the belly.
Please send me a personal message with your address and phone number.

I have never done this before so enlighten me if I'm going about it wrong.
Abe
(http://i.imgur.com/43I4M3Z.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/IaLhU28.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/0y8LnIF.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/J5938oj.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Kevin Dill on November 09, 2013, 03:28:00 PM
Put me down, Abe....will PM!
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Cold Weather on November 09, 2013, 03:50:00 PM
I have as well.  Caribow has excellent bows and so close to home!
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Pheonixarcher on November 09, 2013, 04:03:00 PM
Pm sent.
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: SERGIO VENNERI on November 09, 2013, 04:08:00 PM
Put this Canadian in line some where please!  :archer:
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Joeabowhunter on November 09, 2013, 04:11:00 PM
PM on the way!!!
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: ron w on November 09, 2013, 04:13:00 PM
Way to heavy for me....but it's nice of you to do this!!   :thumbsup:    :notworthy:    Nothing like a test drive!!
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: V I Archer on November 09, 2013, 04:38:00 PM
Pm sent.  Funny, saw this right after my post asking about the featherhorn profile.
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Cari-bow on November 09, 2013, 04:50:00 PM
Paul Hentschel wrote."Usually when a bowyer does a pass around, he sets a few ground rules. Such as only members that have been such for at least one year, and with at least a 100 post count. Also the current guy testing is responsible to pay shipping to the next guy and to do so in a timely manner, while keeping the thread updated as to how the bow performed, it's location, etc. Also how long each shooter gets to keep the bow is sometimes stipulated. Of course, this is all up to you. These are just a few of the things that I've noticed in previous pass arounds. "

Thanks this is the kind of stuff I'm looking for.

I agree that this is for members of tradgang that are in good standing. Just not sure how I would manage the posts thing you mentioned.

What kind of a time frame is normal (a week)?

Yes you will be responsible for the shipping and insurance to the next guy.
Abe
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: see on November 09, 2013, 04:50:00 PM
Getting an email to you now. Thanks for the offer
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: skilonbw on November 09, 2013, 04:51:00 PM
SO wish that was a lefty so I could enjoy test driving one of your bows. They sure are works of art looking to be shot
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: hybridbow hunter on November 09, 2013, 04:56:00 PM
You righty guys are so lucky !
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Kevin Dill on November 09, 2013, 05:04:00 PM
Another strategy is take the first 10 or 15 requests so that your bow isn't out there forever. A week minimum, as working guys may have precious little daylight time to shoot in the winter.
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: wooddamon1 on November 09, 2013, 05:57:00 PM
That is one nice looking bow, sir!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: drewsbow on November 09, 2013, 06:45:00 PM
sweet bow, I would love a chance to shoot that. Thanks drew
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Dog Walker on November 09, 2013, 07:19:00 PM
Looks like your "little accident" in your shop might turn out to be a good thing, Abe. Seems to be lots of interest out there.

To those sitting on the fence out there: I got my one piece Tuktu Ex in the mail yesterday from Abe and I can't put it down.  I've been shooting my arm off in my basement all day and all I can say is.....WOW!  I love it! Give it a try. It blows me away how a bow can be so pretty and shoot so nice. Static limbs, great invention.  Nice going, Abe.   :clapper:
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: john shofestall on November 09, 2013, 07:22:00 PM
Nice looking bow and gesture!
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Cari-bow on November 09, 2013, 07:31:00 PM
Just to clarify I would like a "private message" sent through tradgang . This is to help me keep track instead of checking my 2 email address and the time sent.

What have been the time allotments in other pass arounds?
Abe
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: johnnyk71 on November 09, 2013, 07:59:00 PM
oh, why, why, WHY couldn't this bow be a lefty?! my heart literally skipped a beat when I saw the title of this thread!!

exactly my specs.
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Flying Dutchman on November 10, 2013, 03:20:00 AM
VERY good action Abe! Too bad it is too heavy for me and I live in The Netherladnds.....
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Sockrsblur on November 10, 2013, 05:26:00 AM
Beautiful bow Abe, thanks for considering the pass around! Jim
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: MISSINGINOHIO on November 10, 2013, 08:17:00 AM
Pm sent Thanks
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: coaster500 on November 10, 2013, 10:09:00 AM
To much for these shoulder but Thank you for giving members a chance to shoot and handle one of your bows.......


 :campfire:
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: BOWMARKS on November 10, 2013, 10:27:00 AM
How come these Pass Arounds always are BASSACKWARDS    :banghead:    :banghead:
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Florida lime on November 10, 2013, 10:31:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by BOWMARKS:
How come these Pass Arounds always are BASSACKWARDS     :banghead:      :banghead:  
+1
I check the CariBow site almost every day for a LH Tuktu EX on the inventory page -  nothing yet.    :(

Righties - take advantage of this offer !
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Cari-bow on November 10, 2013, 10:45:00 AM
Things look like I will be doing this by the responses I got.

I have both US and Canadian interest so I'm going to break this up and first start with the US because that is where I got the first responses from and the most responses. After a certain number I will have it sent back to me to my North Dakota address and I will then send it to the Canadians. I'm doing this to save on problems with customs and or shipping.

I do have someone from Alaska not sure on the shipping cost and if someone or that person is prepared for the extra costs that may be involved.

Guide lines;
1) I want a private message sent through tradgang with a shipping address and Ph #.
2)Person receiving the bow is responsible to contact me via email or phone.
3) Person is responsible for the shipping and insurance to the next person.
4) Time frame of bow testing. Everyone involved should try and do this as quickly as possible for all involved . That said this may not be the same for everyone. I'm going to say that in most cases
a week should be enough time and less would be appreciated. If for some reason it doesn't work for you please contact me. Some have already express that with declining daylight this may be difficult. Lets hope timing is such it will work for you.
5) The stringing of a static tip recurve requires the use of a stringer which will be provided. Please don't forget to send it along with the bow.
6) Feedback is a given both privately and on Tradgang.
Abe
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Cari-bow on November 10, 2013, 10:49:00 AM
Florida Lime
I guess you didn't check this week. 56# @28" LH
Abe
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: tom cunningham on November 10, 2013, 10:53:00 AM
pm sent
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Cari-bow on November 10, 2013, 03:55:00 PM
Here is some veneer splicing I've done on some Tuktu's. Just for interest sake.
(http://i.imgur.com/DGmhFTC.jpg)
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: pamike on November 10, 2013, 04:50:00 PM
Man wish that was lighter, would love to try one!
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Florida lime on November 10, 2013, 07:43:00 PM
Abe,
You must have added that LH right after I checked the last time !    :D  
Figures it's only 60", and a bit high for me.    :(
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: katman on November 10, 2013, 08:53:00 PM
pm sent
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Cari-bow on November 11, 2013, 10:36:00 AM
I will stop the sign up for now. I am shocked as to how fast the sign up went. If everyone
follows through and only takes a week we're at over half a year. This does not include shipping time. I will start this week and contact each person before the bow gets sent to them. If the timing is not convenient for someone I will go to the next person on the list. Will try and fit that person in at the next convenient time.

If the box gets too banged up the person who has the bow finds a different box. If someone has a box which will with stand the multiply shipments at a reasonable cost I would reimburse them.

I may include 1 arrow that works for me although you may need to change point weight to adjust for different draw lengths and shooting styles.

The bow is set up with a tie on nock which can be twisted up or down. In most cases I don't think it will need to be moved for testing.

Hope everyone will enjoy and be patient in the waiting.
Abe
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Homebru on November 11, 2013, 03:25:00 PM
FWIW, I picked up a plastic case for transporting fishing rods one year.  I shipped my 62" longbow from Wisconsin to Utah for about $15 in that case.  

A take-down bow wouldn't need such a long case but, for those that do, these fishing rod cases work well and $15 shipping each way doesn't break the bank.
homebru
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Bill Carlsen on November 11, 2013, 06:35:00 PM
Is it left handed? If so then you can ignore my PM.
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Cari-bow on November 11, 2013, 08:07:00 PM
Bill
It is right handed as the picture shows.
Abe
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: 2ndxarnd on November 12, 2013, 11:38:00 AM
PM Sent
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Manitoba Stickflinger on November 12, 2013, 02:16:00 PM
WOW...glad I take take the short drive to Abe's and shoot all his bows. Let me bathe in this glory as us Canadian guys don't have much access to various bows.

My inner child is saying...Nah, nah, nah, nah, naaaah, nah!
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: 2ndxarnd on November 12, 2013, 04:00:00 PM
Stickflinger, please feel free to enlighten us south of the border on your experience.
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Cari-bow on November 12, 2013, 04:40:00 PM
Ryan
We have some pretty good bears and guides up here as well.
Congrats on your buck Ryan!
Abe
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Friend on November 12, 2013, 04:56:00 PM
Sounds like a great opportunity.
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Kevin Dill on November 16, 2013, 06:39:00 AM
Bow received yesterday evening. Still not out of the box yet, but hope to see it later today after I find some time.

Thanks Abe!
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Kevin Dill on November 21, 2013, 01:48:00 PM
Report on Cari-Bow Tuktu Ex Pass-Around

I'll begin this by saying it's not intended to be a full-on evaluative and exhaustive bow report full of quantitative analysis and objective data. Just think of it as one guy's reaction to a bow...a very fine bow.

Abe Penner sent me this Tuktu Ex to shoot, evaluate and then pass on to the next guy. I received it a week ago, and I've shot it multiple times. The bow is a 60" static-tip recurve, 2-piece takedown and scales 54# at 28". I found the bow to be physically light in the hand, and having an excellent grip for me. Grabbing that beavertail wrap is a real pleasure, and the mild thumb-rest is very comfortable. With the brace at 7.25", the bow has a serious amount of tension in the limbs. The tips have a lot of recurvature to them, and more than any bow I've ever shot. When drawing the bow, I was immediately aware of the static-tip effect, and could feel the bow's power very early in the draw cycle. The initial effect made me think the bow would be hard-drawing at its rated weight/length, but I was totally wrong. The bow starts out strong early in the draw, but then levels out smoothly and gains weight evenly all the way to anchor. It pulls 54# at 28" and the last 4 inches are as smooth as it gets. I honestly got zero stacking feedback with this bow, even drawing it out to near 30 inches. Those limbs and static tips really work!

You've already guessed the bow to be fast, and it is. I doubt if I've ever shot another mid-50#s bow that can shoot with this bow for speed. The limbs recover with lightning speed and the arrow is away cleanly. I loved the speed and smoothness. This bow produces an effect that's hard to duplicate. Very traditional styling in that it appears to be a one-piece, but is a takedown. Leather grip styling and gorgeous custom hardwoods. Super-fast shooting and great balance. This is a heck of a fine bow. In its 2-piece category, I'd say it has little competition...it's that good.

I'd like to thank Abe for sending it around. I was lucky enough to be the first guy in line, and have really enjoyed trying this bow out. I will be sending it on now, and I hope whoever gets it next will enjoy it and follow that up with a personal report here on TradGang.  KD
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Pheonixarcher on November 27, 2013, 12:21:00 AM
Well, I got home from work tonight, and there was a box waiting for me! I eagerly opened it to lay my eyes on a beautiful piece of functional art!
After carefully unwrapping everything, I put the bow together, and strung her up.
Although I haven't shot it much yet, I knew from the first shot that this one is special!
After I get a little more time with her, I'll give a more detailed review, but my first impression is... I'm impressed!
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Tajue17 on November 27, 2013, 09:43:00 AM
OK this is killing me 8^( if possible is there anyway we can get an idea what month we will be getting the bow,, maybe a rough estimate based on where our names are on the list but we can figure it out here if theres a list to look at (4-people a month give or take)plus its a heads up on who we're sending too
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Cari-bow on November 27, 2013, 11:58:00 AM
Ted
I have not made the list public. What I have been doing is asking the next person on the list if it suits them ahead of time. If so I give it to the person who is getting the bow the name and address to send to next. Here is what I can tell you, you are close to the end of the list. Which won't be till  late spring or summer. Sorry for the long wait, it's just the way it is.
Abe
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Tajue17 on November 27, 2013, 01:56:00 PM
I totally understand and thanks for posting that and slipping me that info,, I'm happy I'm getting it around spring or summer perfect weather to roadtest your bow.
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: johnnyk71 on November 27, 2013, 02:46:00 PM
even though I am a lefty, I am very excited that my friend Dave is on the list for this. I will be putting on the arm guard and putting some quality shots through this bow right-handed!
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Kevin Dill on November 27, 2013, 06:41:00 PM
You guys won't be disappointed. The day I shipped the bow I called Abe and placed an order for one. I regretted seeing that bow leave...very beautiful and aesthetically traditional. I might have one recommendation for those guys who have to wait a long time before getting the pass-around Tuktu Ex: Order one now!     :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: wooddamon1 on November 27, 2013, 06:45:00 PM
I've never owned a custom bow,  but I've always thought that if I ordered one it would be a Caribow.  Just amazing how beautiful the work is.
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Pheonixarcher on November 29, 2013, 03:47:00 AM
Are you kiddin' me? This thing is rediculous! I've hardly shot this thing, and I shoot it as good or better than bows that I've got thousands of shots with! I am amazed and a believer of the static tip now for sure, and I'm a longbow guy!!!  Happy Thanksgiving everyone. More to come.
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: TRAD101 on November 29, 2013, 01:42:00 PM
I am so glad I put my order in this last april.
sounds like the waiting list could get long.
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: the elf on November 30, 2013, 09:38:00 AM
I have a one piece lefthanded  which I bought from the in stock list------and am thinking of ordering a 2 piece takedown as a companion bow for it.

You guys that are on the list for the pass around are in for a major treat.Start saving your pennies [lol].
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Pheonixarcher on December 05, 2013, 01:05:00 AM
Well, I had my turn, and now it's on it's journey to the next lucky participant. I was sad to see her leave!

Let me begin with the fact that I prefer longbows. I have shot a few different recurves, and own a shrew scout, but I have never shot a static tip before now. I have nothing against recurves, and I shoot them fine, but I've always preferred the feel, and ease of care and stringing of longbows over recurves.

Until now! Am I a complete convert? No, but I now have a desire to own and shoot a static tip recurve. There is a lot of hype around the statics, and this Tuktu is a prime example of why.

I have always been a fan of Abe's work. His bows are beautiful, and masterfully crafted. And this bow is no exception. The wood choices contrast nicely, and flow together around the shape and design of the bow well. His attention to detail, and fit and finish are excellent.

I found the two piece design to be very well made, and with a perfect fit. Once the bow is together and strung, you'll forget that it was cut in half. Truely a great design. The functionality of a take down, with the look and feel of a beautiful one piece. The beaver tail grip and shelf/strike feel great, and are also very functional. Arrows are quiet on the draw, and upon release.

I shot a variety of arrows through this bow, and it replied "is that all you got?" Lol. It shot everything well, with very little difference in flight. This is a very forgiving design!

I was also quite impressed with the cast of this bow. It is a very flat shooter, and I think one could extend their effective range with this bow as it hits very hard!

The draw is a little different than what I'm used to, as you experience more weight earlier in the draw cycle, and then it smooths out nicely for the last few inches of my 28" draw.

Now on to the details everyone wants to know. I've already  alluded to how fast it is (very!). Pound for pound, it's probably the fastest trad bow I've ever shot. Most recurves that I've shot, I've been very aware of the added limb mass twards the tips. All through the draw, and especially upon release. With the Tuktu, it's different. The bow is balanced very well, and as soon as I started putting tension on the string, I didn't feel that mass at the tips. The most noticeable difference is at release. The bow is smooth, with almost non existant residual vibrations. It is indeed smoother than some very high end longbows, and I doubt that you will find a recurve that would come close.

All of the above factors also lend themselves to the noise level. With the masterfully timed (tillered) and balanced limbs, there comes no sound. That includes ZERO string slap on the tips!  This is by far and away the quitest and smoothest recurve I have ever shot, or heard being shot. In fact, I have only heard a very few and very special longbows that were quieter. This is truely a fantastic bow!

Almost forgot the grip! I've heard the term "fits like a glove" used to describe bow grips in the past.  Now I understand what that feels like! The grip was very comfortable, natural, and repeatable for me. Something I have struggled with on a lot of bows. It's shape and feel also lends itself to good pointability and accuracy.

In summary, this bow is very well mannered, tunes easily, shoots extraordinary, is fast, very quiet, feels great, and looks amazing! And the two piece, is a great and functional feature.
What more is there to ask for from a bowyer and a bow?

Thanks again Abe! I really am greatfull for this opportunity, and look forward to doing business with you in the future.
 Paul
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Cari-bow on December 05, 2013, 11:26:00 AM
Thanks Paul
That was a very thorough review. I wish my teachers had been that complimentary, but then again I didn't build them any bows.
Abe
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Pheonixarcher on December 06, 2013, 12:27:00 AM
Just being honest Abe! Lol. Thank you!
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Kevin Dill on December 06, 2013, 05:55:00 AM
Abe,

I think you might want to be coming up with a really good name for this particular bow when you get it home. So many TG hands on one bow...passed all over North America...you know?
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Peckerwood on December 10, 2013, 07:42:00 PM
I would like to publicly thank Abe for the opportunity to shoot his Tuktu Ex TD . I have always wanted to get one of Abe's bows in my hands and I finally got my chance.
 I thought that this bow would be a little tough for me because it was about 10# heavier than I normally shoot and I draw 29 1/2 in. In reality I could handle the weight fairly well and noticed no stack or finger pinch. What was mentioned by Kevin and Paul held true for me. I found the bow to fast , quiet, SMOOTH and shock free. It shot my 700 gr. arrows with ease.
What I also like is Abe's craftsmanship.  The glue lines were tight . The finish was excellent. The connection system was smooth to operate and made no noise. This bow has it all !

It gets a Peckerwood    :thumbsup:  

Now I need a Peregrine Longbow to test.

Thanks Abe    
Bill
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Cari-bow on December 11, 2013, 09:07:00 AM
Thanks Bill for passing the bow down the line.
Abe
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: GRAYBEARD on December 11, 2013, 09:15:00 AM
How do I get on the test list? I would really like to see this one. If Bill says it's a shooter, it is a SHOOTER!
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Cari-bow on December 11, 2013, 11:40:00 AM
Jed
I've closed down the sign up awhile ago. It's well over half a year, that's not including shipping time.
Abe
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: wooddamon1 on December 17, 2013, 04:18:00 PM
Holy smokes, what a bow! I've been shooting this thing like a maniac whenever I get the chance. Smooth, fast, quiet and beautiful.

I've owned another static-tip recurve and always liked how it felt and shot, but this Tuktu Ex blows it away for speed at the same poundage. The arrow going around with her shoots great, but I had to take her hunting with some 73# cedars that flew like lasers with no tuning.

The hunting was cold, windy and miserable over the weekend so I spent a little time stumping and hiking to warm up. The bow was blasting arrows through frozen stumps like a Howitzer!   :bigsmyl:  

Thanks Abe for the opportunity to shoot this awesome creation, I've really enjoyed it! Anyone looking for a functional work of art wouldn't be disappointed with anything Abe puts out there.

I'll be sorry to see this bow go, in the short time I've had it in my grubby paws it's become like an old friend that has been at my side for years...   :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Kevin Dill on December 18, 2013, 10:23:00 AM
I feel just a bit sorry for the guys who whiffed on seeing (and more importantly, shooting) this TD Tuktu Ex. Obviously the bow would be out for 2 years if there wasn't a cut-off.

wooddamon...I know exactly how you feel. My week with that bow went by like a Saturday night date! The good news is that I've got a permanent date with one somewhere up the road.
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Cari-bow on December 18, 2013, 06:40:00 PM
Damon
You are welcome and I'm glad you liked it.
Wish you could have had better weather for your hunt on the weekend. I am happy you took the time to take out some stumps. You never know when you might need a Howitzer.   :help:  
Wish you and yours the best this Christmas season.
Abe
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: wooddamon1 on December 18, 2013, 08:12:00 PM
Back at ya Abe, Happy Holidays!
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: j.j.johnston on December 27, 2013, 11:25:00 AM
I just finished my turn with this bow and send it on to the next lucky tester.  Let me preface this review with some background.  I am a serial bow tester.  I have owned bows from almost all of the major bowyers.  I buy used bows, shoot them a while and sell them to fund the next bow.  I have owned more than 75 bows over the past twelve years or so and will probably own a few more before my shoulder gives out.  My preference is for 50s style recurves and longbows, bows with a slim riser.

This bow is an excellent example of the bowyer's art.  The fit and finish were excellent.  The glue lines were tight, there were no tool marks visible anywhere on the bow.  When assembled, there was no play in the joint, but it assembled easily.  The finish was even, smooth and uniform it application.

I strung the bow and checked the brace and nock height.  Both were close to the maker's recommendations so off to the backyard to give it a try.  The temp was minus 7 F for the day so the shooting sessions were short, with warm up breaks.

The first three arrows grouped close enough that the fletches touched.  The bow shot where I was looking, touching the quarter sized dot on the bag.  There seemed to be a good bit of preload on the draw and as the bow was drawn to my 30.5" full draw, it felt very smooth.  There was no feeling of any stacking at anchor.  

Upon release, I was a bit surprised at the cast.  The speed was very very good.  I do not chrony bows, but have a very good feel for what is fast and what is slow.  I shot this bow with several others I have, noted for their speed and it was right up there with the best.  The cast was confirmed by penetration comparisons when shot into a 4' block range target.

The bow was quiet.  I was shooting full length  GT 5575s with 200 gr points.  There was just a solid thump on the shot.  Many of the bows I have shot with this kind of speed were quite noisy by comparison.

Summary:

Fit and finish....as good as any bow I have owned.  The grip locks your hand into a good shooting position and is repeatable.  I liked the beavertail grip wrap.

Cast.....in the top five bows I have shot for speed.  

Noise level....in the top five for quiet, in the top three for recurves.

The bow is easy to shoot, feels very stable and comfortable.  It has good weight, but is not too heavy or bulky.

I would highly recommend this bow to anyone looking for a high quality bow.
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Cari-bow on December 27, 2013, 05:20:00 PM
John
Thanks for sending the bow on and for your review. I know it takes time and effort to write a review and it is appreciated by  me as well as all the tradgang members.
Abe
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: SELFBOW19953 on January 01, 2014, 11:28:00 AM
I am/was the lucky next recipient of Abe's Pass Around Tuktu.  I totally agree with everything that's been said about the looks, fit & finish, and performance of this bow.  John is right, you won't be disappointed with a Tuktu EX!!!

The carbon arrow that is supplied with the bow was the standard I used for testing my wood arrows (I can now say I have shot a carbon arrow, but I still prefer wood).  The bow is set up for that arrow and I tried different arrows until I found the one that matched its flight.  I tried spines from 50-55 to 70-75.  I believe the lighter spines could have been tinkered with to shoot well, but I didn't want to change the tuning of the bow.  

As Wooddamon found the 70-75 spines shot the best, matching the flight of the supplied carbon.  Next best was 65-70 spine that looked to need only a nock height adjustment.  My wood shafts all have 160 gr field points on 28" BOP shafts, with 4 5" shield cut feathers.  The carbon weighed 586gr, 65-70 chundoo weighed 600 gr, and the 70-75 ramin weighed 680 gr.  The EX is 54@28, so all shafts are in excess of 10 gpp.
Out to 20 yards, there was little difference in point of impact, not enough to worry about.  At 25 yards, as one would expect, the heavier shafts started dropping off.  All shafts were fast and hit with authority.  

Thank you, Abe, for giving us the opportunity to try your bow.
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Post by: SELFBOW19953 on January 02, 2014, 04:47:00 PM
Up for a great bow and bowyer.
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Post by: see on January 06, 2014, 08:17:00 PM
I received Abe's bow on Sat. It was very well wrapped up and everything looked great. When I took the limbs out I really was impressed with the workmanship, especially the way he had male and female grooves made for the fit between the 2 limbs. I had never shot a 2 piece bow so this was gonna be a new adventure for me. At first I noticed just a faint amount of play with the limbs hooked up but after stringing it up it was as solid as a one piece recurve. The static tips are at what looks like turned 90 degrees from the limb unstrung so I was real careful stringing it up. It shot great the 1st shot and the arrow supplied hit right where I was looking. I was immediately impressed especially with the speed. It's marked 54@28 but shot like a much heavier poundage bow. I have shot many different bows in the last few years and this has got to be one of the fastest I have shot. I own a Shafer, black widow, Morrisom Shawnee,4 RER  recurves  cause I love static tips, a Tolke Chinook, Great Plains, and several old Bear bows and this bow is a winner to be desired. The grip fit my had perfect and to my surprise aided the shot. It was 7 5/8 brace, was 7 1/2 the next day, and today I believe settled into 7 3/8 brace height after leaving it strung since I got it on Sat. We're having a deep freeze all over the country tonight so I'm shooting mostly in my basement tonight. I did take it out yesterday and the arrow supplied was right on. Flew like a dart. The wrap on the end covers the spine for the Beaman trad arrow so I would like to know what that is for it flies perfectly. I shot Gold tip 55/75 and they flew good.  I took some 2117 alum and saw the stacking at 20 yds flying perfectly. I'm not gonna mess with the nock( 5/8) above sq or try and do any bare shafting cause its shooting great and I have to move it own to the next guy.  All in all I'm impressed with this bow. I never dreamed a 2 piece would shoot like this. Great bow you created Abe. Oh yeah the bases of the limbs has raised lams that you can see and feel with touching. Work is truly great on this bow. I'll try and post more in a few days.    :bigsmyl:
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Post by: Cari-bow on January 06, 2014, 11:01:00 PM
Dwight
The Beamen is a 400 and I think it's a 75 grain insert. I thought I would include an arrow that worked for me just to help with any tuning frustrations. I thought one might need to add or subtract point weight for different draw lengths.
I'm glad guys are using different arrows just to try out. I like Beamen arrows because they were one of the first carbon arrow makers to be consistent. Now it seems the others are as well. On brace height I shoot mine at 7.25".
Abe
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Post by: see on January 12, 2014, 09:03:00 PM
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Post by: see on January 12, 2014, 09:05:00 PM
well I guess not  pics are giving me a fit
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Post by: see on January 12, 2014, 09:37:00 PM
 (http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o478/see242/photo4.jpg) (http://s343.photobucket.com/user/see242/media/photo4.jpg.html)
bow is a great shooter
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Post by: see on January 12, 2014, 09:42:00 PM
 (http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o478/see242/photo6.jpg) (http://s343.photobucket.com/user/see242/media/photo6.jpg.html)
my wife got my release form pretty good on this one. Every first shot of the day was in the spot I aimed for...not many bows doing this has been my experience
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Post by: see on January 12, 2014, 09:45:00 PM
 (http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o478/see242/photo2.jpg) (http://s343.photobucket.com/user/see242/media/photo2.jpg.html)
Me and my dog, Remy, my Brittany this am
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Post by: see on January 12, 2014, 09:50:00 PM
 (http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o478/see242/Photo1.jpg) (http://s343.photobucket.com/user/see242/media/Photo1.jpg.html)
I really enjoyed getting to shoot this bow during this past week.Its been quite an experience esp it being a 2 piece bow you could never tell it.
its one of the hardest hitting I have shot.we had so much bad weather this week and our deer season is over till next fall..its on to the next guy in the am  thanks again Abe
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Post by: see on January 12, 2014, 10:05:00 PM
 (http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o478/see242/photo7.jpg) (http://s343.photobucket.com/user/see242/media/photo7.jpg.html)
one of the last shots of the day
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Post by: see on January 12, 2014, 10:09:00 PM
 (http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o478/see242/photo3.jpg) (http://s343.photobucket.com/user/see242/media/photo3.jpg.html)
Calling it a day and taking a break by the creek and off to church.I'm getting around better now since my prostate surgery last month and this was great to get to use this bow
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Post by: Cari-bow on January 13, 2014, 08:39:00 AM
Dwight
I'm happy you enjoyed yourself while you had the bow. Thanks for taking the time to post pictures of yourself shooting the bow. Nice to put a face to some of you.
Abe
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Post by: Kevin Dill on January 13, 2014, 10:35:00 AM
Abe...will this bow be shown at the Kalamazoo event in 2 weeks?
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Post by: Cari-bow on January 13, 2014, 11:15:00 AM
No Kevin
I would then have to take it out it's rotation for that to happen. I'm not sure if that's fair to the rest that signed up.
Abe
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Post by: Kevin Dill on January 13, 2014, 11:37:00 AM
Darn...I was hoping you'd have a pretty bow there for us to fondle.

  ;)
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Post by: johnnyk71 on January 13, 2014, 08:11:00 PM
I cannot WAIT to get my hands on this bow. even though I'm a lefty, I'm gonna shoot this baby plenty from the right side when my buddy Dave gets his turn!

(o.k. I've probably said that 3 times already, but.. seriously!!)
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Post by: mooshkat on January 19, 2014, 09:25:00 PM
Well, i just had my turn with Abes bow, just so happens i got in time for our fri. nite trad league this week.  I had arrived late due to having to plow snow, in the past month i had picked up a used Blacktail Snakebit bow, so everyone was looking to seeing it when i arrived, and when i pulled out Abes bow, no one was disappointed, all were very impressed, so i let a few guys shoot it,no one, including me had ever shot a static tip recurve, all they said was wow, awesome bow, the price scared them a little, but they  sure loved the bow, and why not, fit and finish is excellent, awesome grip, fast and quiet, dead in the hand, and a two-piece, i am sure there will be a static tip recurve in my arsenal in the future and if there is,it will be one of Abes. Thanks for the opportunity Abe, i have been shooting this bow on and off all day today in my basement, going to shoot at the range after work tomorrow with a couple of friends, and tuesday its off to the next fella,love this bow, thanks.  Dave
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Post by: Josh Perdue on January 21, 2014, 06:40:00 PM
mooshkat gave me a call with the news the bow was headed my way. Im really looking forward to the opportunity. I have to work this coming weekend but will have all day Monday and Tuesday come snow, cold, rain, or shine.
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Post by: Josh Perdue on January 27, 2014, 07:07:00 PM
First off I would like to thank Abe for the opportunity to shoot his bow. Ive had the bow a few days and have had the chance to put quite a few arrows down range. The fit and finish is excellent. Its pretty obvious Abe is a master craftsman. The connection system is nice and solid. I really liked the shape of the grip and the beavertail that was installed. The grip just provided a non-slip and consistent hand placement.
The bow shot very well. To me the draw seemed pretty stiff up front but really smoothed out and felt like it had a little let off at the end. The bow shoots hard and is very quiet. I felt little to no handshock on release. I thought the mass weight of the bow would be a little bit heavier being a 2 piece. I put on one of my selway strap on quivers and it made the overall weight about perfect. Adding the quiver really balanced  the bow nicely. Overall its just an excellent shooting bow that I would be proud to own.
I shot 29 1/2" GT 55/75 with a 100 grain brass inserts and anywhere from a 125-175 grain field point. The bow seemed pretty spine tolerant.
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Post by: Gator1 on January 27, 2014, 09:22:00 PM
Great feedback on a great bow.

Keep em coming.    :archer2:    :archer2:
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Post by: Cari-bow on January 27, 2014, 11:02:00 PM
Josh
Here is the draw force curve of one with similar weight.
(http://i.imgur.com/4EsfmEw.png)

I will also include what I call an effort graph. This will tell how much weight increase for every inch the bow is drawn. It might explain to you what your feeling. (http://i.imgur.com/Bsy9iUg.png)

The 2 piece doesn't really add weight to the bow.
I shoot mine with a quiver most of the time but that's how I shoot all my bows with quivers on. I am mostly a hunter  and a quiver on the bow just makes sense to me.
Abe
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Post by: R. W. Mackey on January 28, 2014, 11:36:00 AM
Abe, I like the effort graph, gives you a really good idea of the
Weight increase throughout the draw. It will definitely work for me.

Roy
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Post by: Joeabowhunter on February 12, 2014, 12:11:00 PM
TTT....I've got something waiting for me at home!!!!  
I have really been looking forward to this test drive.  I will post my report when I'm done.

Joe
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Post by: V I Archer on February 13, 2014, 02:42:00 PM
WOo Hoo its back in Canada!  Now it just have to move westward  :)
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Post by: elk nailer on February 13, 2014, 07:47:00 PM
Someone has to keep track of the miles on this bow!!!!
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Post by: Joeabowhunter on February 17, 2014, 08:12:00 PM
I just spent several days shooting this beautiful bow and it did not disappoint.  I took it out of the basement a few times to go rabbit hunting.....which became stump shooting days.

 (http://i1241.photobucket.com/albums/gg520/Joeabowhunter/tuktuex_zps1b0fa6df.jpg) (http://s1241.photobucket.com/user/Joeabowhunter/media/tuktuex_zps1b0fa6df.jpg.html)

After reading the previous reviews all I can say is that I agree.  The bow is a work of art which fans of Abe's Cari-bow's know and appreciate.
 
When I first saw these bows on the Cari-bow website I contacted Abe for info and pricing.  What I was most curious about though was how would it compare to my favourite bow?  My 2pc Cari-bow Slynx.  This is where my review will focus.  There must be other people wondering the same thing....  Starting with the grip.  The TuktuEX has a very similar shaped grip to my Slynx.  It's slightly higher wristed has the similar thumb rest but it is larger and fills my palm more.  It's very repeatable like my Slynx and also has the beavertail wrap that I really like.  Excuse the shadows in the picture.  I hope you can get an idea of the grip sizes.  The picture also shows the larger sight window and wider limbs of the TuktuEX.  The limbs are wider but they are not as deep.  Limb tips are nice and small too, no excess weight where you don't want it.

 (http://i1241.photobucket.com/albums/gg520/Joeabowhunter/DSC000621_zps45143520.jpg) (http://s1241.photobucket.com/user/Joeabowhunter/media/DSC000621_zps45143520.jpg.html)

  (http://i1241.photobucket.com/albums/gg520/Joeabowhunter/DSC000591_zpsf3ca1ae1.jpg) (http://s1241.photobucket.com/user/Joeabowhunter/media/DSC000591_zpsf3ca1ae1.jpg.html)

Both bows are 60" amo BUT the actual strung length tip to tip of the TuktuEX is only 55" VS the Slynx which is 58". The TuktuEX weighs more than my Slynx but not by alot (sorry, no scale).  It feels very solid in the hand.  I prefer to shoot my Slynx with a quiver and I found the same to be true with the TuktuEX. Shooting both back to back to back...my 55 lb Slynx vs the 54 lb TuktuEX.  Both are dead at the shot.  I expected a bit more resonance from the TuktuEX but it wasn't there.  Very nice.  Both are quiet but the Slynx has the edge here.  The speed by eye is very close between the two but if I had to guess (no chrono) I would say the TuktuEX may have a slight edge.  I did find that to get really good bareshaft flight the TuktuEX needed a much stiffer arrow than the Slynx.  The draw....I draw 28.5".  Both bows are heavily preloaded so the weight comes on early but at the end of the draw and trying to overdraw I am impressed with the TuktuEX.  They are both great but I bet the TuktuEX can handle a 30" draw.  Look at the limbs bend!!

 (http://i1241.photobucket.com/albums/gg520/Joeabowhunter/shootingtuktuexrtside1_zps9a82654f.jpg) (http://s1241.photobucket.com/user/Joeabowhunter/media/shootingtuktuexrtside1_zps9a82654f.jpg.html)

 (http://i1241.photobucket.com/albums/gg520/Joeabowhunter/shootingtuktuexside1_zps86a14ec5.jpg) (http://s1241.photobucket.com/user/Joeabowhunter/media/shootingtuktuexside1_zps86a14ec5.jpg.html)

 (http://i1241.photobucket.com/albums/gg520/Joeabowhunter/shootingtuktuexfront1_zps8cbdaa57.jpg) (http://s1241.photobucket.com/user/Joeabowhunter/media/shootingtuktuexfront1_zps8cbdaa57.jpg.html)  


My first attempt at video...hope it works (click on the pics below).

 (http://i1241.photobucket.com/albums/gg520/Joeabowhunter/th_shootingtuktuex3angles_zps473a6152.jpg) (http://i1241.photobucket.com/albums/gg520/Joeabowhunter/shootingtuktuex3angles_zps473a6152.mp4)

 (http://i1241.photobucket.com/albums/gg520/Joeabowhunter/th_TuktuEX11_zpsbac8ba70.jpg) (http://i1241.photobucket.com/albums/gg520/Joeabowhunter/TuktuEX11_zpsbac8ba70.mp4)


I really like this bow.  I swapped back and forth between the two and can't say which one I shoot better.  Abe, thanks for letting me try it out, you've got a winner here.

Joe
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Post by: Cari-bow on February 18, 2014, 05:29:00 PM
Joe
It's interesting that with the camera above the target in the video the sound of the arrow hitting  comes well before the arrow is in the target. How did that work?
It's like sound travels way faster then light . I know that's not suppose to happen ( my poor memory from school) or do I have that mixed up!
Or is that why some animals get out of the way so quick.
Abe
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Post by: Joeabowhunter on February 18, 2014, 06:35:00 PM
Yeah, the sound is out of sync in that top video....we wouldn't stand a chance if the animals got that much of a jump on us!

That sixth picture down is a frame of the arrow just before hitting the stump I'm shooting at.  I just got a Sony Action Cam and at 60 frames per second I am able to catch the release, arrow leaving the string and two frames of the arrow in flight before it's out of the camera angle.  It looks pretty cool.  It also shows how steady the bow is at the shot.
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Post by: Sockrsblur on March 07, 2014, 03:27:00 PM
TTT
Any new updates guys?

   :campfire:
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Post by: johnnyk71 on March 07, 2014, 05:15:00 PM
awesome video!
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Post by: Sockrsblur on March 08, 2014, 08:49:00 PM
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Post by: Sockrsblur on March 08, 2014, 08:50:00 PM
:campfire:
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Post by: V I Archer on March 17, 2014, 02:15:00 PM
I was fortunate enough to receive the Tuktu mid last week.  Picked it up at the post office at lunch, peeled it out of the box and just had to fire a few rounds through it before returning to work.  

I have never been much of a recurve guy, much prefer my longbows.  The Tuktu has not changed that, but she is a fine bow for sure!  

I absolutely love the handle on this bow.  I now know that I will for certain have a beavertail grip on whatever my next bow may be, heck I may even retrofit one or two that I currently own.  Beyond the beavertail though, the palm swell and thumbrest of the Caribow make it a pure joy to shoot.  Naturally pointing and repeatable.  Your hand falls so naturally into the grip.

The takedown system on the bow is well thought out and goes together seamlessly.  There was no struggle to pull it apart either.  Once together it is solid with no movement or flex.

The bow was shockingly quiet!  I expected much more noise, especially given my bias to dead in the hand, heavy limbed longbows.  Granted I was shooting some pretty heavy woodies from it, but it was among the quietest, most dead in the hand recurves I have ever shot.

I took the bow for a walk in the woods and a few hours of stumpshooting after church on Sunday.  Remeber my comment about naturally pointing and repeatable:  
 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/VIArcher/IMG_4752_zpse693dd12.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/VIArcher/media/IMG_4752_zpse693dd12.jpg.html)

A quiver full of thumping arrows built for my 60 pound longbow.  Shots were all within 25 yards, but I only lost one arrow all afternoon.  

This bow is a winner.  It shoots so well "out of the box", I can only imagine the perfomance one could achieve with time invested in proper tuning.  I have found only one fatal flaw in the bow, having shot it, I now want a Caribow!

While not converted to the recurve club, a 2 piece featherhorn is definitely on my radar.
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Post by: Longbowlogan on April 04, 2014, 10:02:00 AM
Well I just got the bow today and plan on shooting some local 3d shoot's with it this weekend!!
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Post by: nineworlds9 on April 04, 2014, 12:12:00 PM
Awesome.  Been following this thread since the beginning.  I unfortunately did not make the list, and though I'm lefty, I can shoot righty well enough.  This particular model bow, ever since Abe first released it, is to me one of the most beautiful designs out there...the lines are just perfect!  I have been biding my time reading all the reviews and I'm pleased to report I just purchased a brand new lefty one that was a recently offered stock bow on Abe's site.  The bow is arriving this coming Tuesday and I can't wait to unpack it!!  This thread had a lot to do with my decision.
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Post by: Longbowlogan on April 09, 2014, 01:28:00 PM
Well I just shipped the bow off to James Class, the bow was a joy to shoot! I was really liking this bow and was trying to figure out how I could come up with the money for a new one. I wish this bow was 60 pounds but the 54 pounds felt like I could hold it back all day. The bow was nice and quiet with a great grip that I really liked. This bow had a great cast and I was shooting out to 50 yards and still hitting my deer target in the kill zone most of time. I just wish this bow would have came to me during turkey season! Overall I really liked this bow, I'll be on the look out for one in the low 60 pound range. This was the second Caribow I've handled and both of them shot great, you can't go wrong with a bow from Abe!! Thanks for the chance on this pass around bow!
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Post by: johnnyk71 on April 09, 2014, 01:59:00 PM
Chuck, if you don't like it (fat chance!) let me know!
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Post by: Sockrsblur on April 09, 2014, 02:50:00 PM
Thanks Logan... I'm watching out the window!

   :campfire:
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Post by: Sockrsblur on April 12, 2014, 10:51:00 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/PqaNpyM.jpg)
Love that brown truck!

 (http://i.imgur.com/EXF7Lze.jpg)
I think this package has done some traveling  :)
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Post by: Sockrsblur on April 21, 2014, 10:09:00 PM
Well the Tuktu is carefully packed and boxed for its trip tomorrow morning to go visit Nathan in CO. The bow is beautiful, no doubt. I have to say pulling those static tip limbs out of the box was impressive, the design of those limbs is amazing. The beaver tail grip I could not say enough about. It's contoured in all the right ways and places. Comfortable and easily consistent. I never shot a 2 piece so that was neat. I thought the take down system was great. After the bow was strung I would have never known it was not a 1 piece.
Drawing and shooting the bow was very interesting to me. My actual draw is about 27". In the beginning of the draw it felt like there is a lot of weight waiting there for you but then it gets so smooth out to anchor. The bow shot fast and hit hard. I have to admit I expected it not to be so smooth and well mannered but it was very nice to shoot.
Abe thank you Sir for the opportunity to spend some time with one of your bows, I am grateful.
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Homebru on April 22, 2014, 08:37:00 PM
:bigsmyl:  

homebru
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Keith Zimmerman on April 22, 2014, 09:25:00 PM
Hey Jim, meet up with me and Logan at Denton.  U going this year?  We can shoot again.
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: arrowlauncherdj on May 02, 2014, 09:40:00 PM
Just got the pm from Abe and Nathan that the bow is on its way... Can't wait to give her a whirl! Not to mention johnnyk71 who's chomping at the bit to see it!

Dave
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Post by: el greco on May 02, 2014, 09:42:00 PM
Hey Dave ,are you getting the Tuktu you lucky dog?I might have to come back in AL and visit you!!
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Post by: Sockrsblur on May 03, 2014, 09:12:00 AM
Hi Keith, just saw your post. Had a really great time at Denton with you guys. I planned the time off again this year, would love to get together.
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Post by: Cari-bow on May 03, 2014, 09:35:00 AM
Would  Logan Tippett  from Alabama please email me. I need a little more info, and your coming up soon.
Abe
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Homebru on May 03, 2014, 11:01:00 AM
Well, I had the great pleasure of taking this bow for a test ride.  I eagerly opened the box on the end marked "open this end".  I slipped out the bow sock and discovered that Abe had even made "bow socks" for each limb out of bubble wrap.  Pretty cool.

A beautiful combination of woods and a wonderful matte finish.  Looking at the bow in person, I was "shocked" at the hooks at the end of the limbs.  This bow has some serious recurved limbs.  

Abe sent along some "assembly" instructions on how to put the two pieces together and recommendations for brace height, nock height, etc..  I put the stringner to the limb tips and thought "this will never work".  With the amount of recurve in those limbs, it looks like it'll never string.  Never fear.  The amount of "pull" on the stringer necessary to string the bow was way less than I expected.  

I stepped back to look at the bow from a distance.  Certainly shorter than my "go to" D/R longbow.  The riser on the Tuktu looked huge.  I shoot a 3-pc takedown on a regular basis and the Tuktu riser looked huge.  

I reached out for the bow and wrapped my fingers around the riser and said "oh my".  Abe has done a fantastic job refining the grip that he puts on his bows.  Despite how large the riser looked, it fit in my hand perfectly and did not, in any way feel as large as it looked.  Honestly, it fit like a glove and the beaver tail leather was a very nice touch.  Out to the range.

The bow points very naturally with that grip.  It has a hearty initial draw weight.  Not quite as high as my "go to" bow but close.  A smooth draw and consistent increase in draw weight as the string comes back to anchor.

This bow delivers that arrow with authority.  I found that this bow has very good "shootability".  I could pick it up and shoot it nearly as good as the bow that I shoot on a regular basis.  

The 2-piece takedown system is really nice.  It assembles and disassembles with ease.  When the bow is put together, you cannot see that it's a two-piece bow.  When you shoot it, it feels just like a 1-piece bow.  I can't make any "well informed" comparisons to existing 2-piece systems because I'm not an engineer and I haven't owned any 2-piece bows.  

Overall, I was very impressed by this bow.  The woodwork on this bow was beautiful.  The grip fit my hand very naturally.  The bow draws and shoots as good as anything that is out there and comes in a very compact package, both in overall size but also in it's 2-piece portability. I have to admit the I really like the 2-piece functionality and appearance.  Despite owning two 3-piece takedowns, I've always preferred the look of a 1-piece bow.

A special thanks to Abe for making this opportunity available to me and the other shooters here on Tradgang.  If not for this, I may not have had a chance to try out one of Abe's bows.  Now that I have, I'm confident that I'll have Abe's name on my list of "bows I would like to own".  Thanks, Abe.

Warmest regards,
homebru
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Post by: arrowlauncherdj on May 03, 2014, 10:03:00 PM
The bow is here!! Mail lady dropped off this evening. Can wait to get her shootn and fling some arras.
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: johnnyk71 on May 05, 2014, 12:25:00 PM
don't want to step on Dave's toes, as he is the "official" reviewer, but i wanted to give my thoughts while they are fresh. we took the Tuktu along to a 3-D shoot yesterday, and i got to shoot it some.

first off, i am a lefty, all the way. this bow is a righty, so it took me a few shots to get dialed in. it draws smoothly, even "backwards", and delivers an arrow with authority. was very curious to see and hear it perform alongside my RER Retro, which is very similar and is my go-to bow. both bows showed the superior design of the static tips. you simply cannot convince me that there is a better design out there. i would have to give the quietness edge to the Retro, but it's essentially nitpicking since both are really quiet, especially for a recurve. the Tuktu simply thumps an arrow with authority too.

the fit, finish, and craftsmanship are absolutely top-notch. i own some nice bows, and Abe's work is right there with the rest of them. just superb! really beautiful. the beaver tail grip was outstanding, and i liked the locater style grip in the riser. it's a bit beefier than the RER's grip, and i am genuinely curious as to whether the take-down feature necessitates the increase in size, and whether a one-piece Tuktu has any slimmer of a grip (i imagine this Tuktu is similar in grip to the RER Arroyo, which is a bit more substantial than that of the Retro). Abe, can you elaborate? the take-down feature is a marvel of design, and was so rock solid that you'd never know it was there.

this is one outstanding bow, and Dave is right that i have been hotly anticipating getting my hands on it, haha! i look forward to shooting it some more before it's time for Dave to pass it on. i have often been accused (by my wife!) of only wanting "the best" of things, and after shooting this bow, i would clearly place it in that category. i would be proud to own a Tuktu, and likely will at some point.

i really appreciate the opportunity to test drive it, especially since i wasn't "officially" on the list. it's a rare treat to get to shoot a bow of this caliber, and i have enjoyed it greatly.
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Cari-bow on May 05, 2014, 02:04:00 PM
John
The standard circumference on the Tuktu Ex and the Ex TD are the same. Now with the Tuktu Ex TD I add the beavertail wrap which will add about 1/4" - 3/8". You may think that's not enough to make a big difference, well you will easily tell a 1/4" added to the circumference. I would say measure your bow and see what the difference is. Before the wrap goes on the Tuktu is  4 5/8".
Thanks for taking the time to write your views on the Tuktu Ex TD.
Abe
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: johnnyk71 on May 05, 2014, 02:31:00 PM
Thanks, Abe!
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: arrowlauncherdj on May 06, 2014, 12:14:00 AM
Im gonna keep the bow a few more days to work out my bow lust. I'll write a review as soon as I get my fill  :)

Abe when you get the next person in the pass along's info ready, please email me so I can get it packed up and straight to the PO.

Dave
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: SteveL on May 06, 2014, 03:43:00 PM
As usual I'm late to the party, but I would love to give her a try.

Steve
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Robhood23 on May 06, 2014, 03:54:00 PM
how far out is the wait time on this bow? I would be interested if it is not to far out!
Thanks, Jamie
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Cari-bow on May 06, 2014, 07:20:00 PM
Steve,Robhood
This closed down last year in November. Now I may open it up again after we are done with this run. Which could at the end of June or July. They have been a number of inquires after the close down date.
Keep watching at the end for an up date.
Abe
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Pheonixarcher on May 07, 2014, 01:33:00 AM
This bow still holds a special place in my heart! It's been 6 months since my short time with her, and I can still feel that great beavertail grip and smooth draw in my hands. Lol. This bow has certainly left a lasting impression. Hopefully, I'll soon be able to add my own Tuktu to my collection. Thanks again Abe, for the opportunity, and for creating such a great bow!
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Joeabowhunter on May 07, 2014, 09:51:00 AM
Awesome bows.....Abe, your latest stock listing of the 58" ebony riser is killing me!!!
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Cari-bow on May 07, 2014, 04:22:00 PM
Joe
There you go and no waiting time how great is that.
LOL
Abe
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: arrowlauncherdj on May 12, 2014, 09:09:00 PM
Hey guys, I'm a bit late posting this but I shipped the bow out to Ben Carlsen today. Ben, Abe has the tracking numbers but you can email me or pm me and I'll get it to you.

First of all, the finish. I'd say its a sure 9/10 even despite its status as a pass around. Wenge is very hard to fill the grain but Abe did a great job with it in the flare. The overlays and tips were as perfect as any artist or sculptor could muster.

Th grip. To be honest it was a little fat for my taste as I tuck my ring and pinky fingers under for comfort and to resist grabbing the bow. I'm sure that could be tailored a bit more for a custom as the take down system is very robust and solid. I did like the beaver tail and it really added some uniqueness to the look of the bow.

The shot. The bow is very dead in hand and very quiet. No hand shock at all despite the very low mass weight of the bow. I shoot a lot of heavy wood 3 PC take downs and it was kinda awkward at first as my bow arm was all over the place. But a few shots and I settled in. Overall this would make a mean all around huntin bow. Light, short, quiet as a mouse fart, and nice to look at.

On a side note, I play at being a bowyer and after my more crude attempts, it makes me appreciate his artist hand. and seeing the way Abe did the lam grind to give the affect of a tip wedge and power lam was very cool and I bet it makes for a much easier glue up.  

Thanks for the experience Abe.

Dave
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: nineworlds9 on May 12, 2014, 09:47:00 PM
Yes the Tuk' is a fine fine bow for sure.  Only reason I just offered up my new 1pc for sale is I have had some 'life' stuff happen recently and also have another build that's concluding and I need to stay solvent.  I don't want the Tuk to go, but if someone is up to it I will let it.  It's such a brutally powerful bow, all the while being smooth and quiet.  It actually has the same amount of reflex in the limbs as my Saluki Ibex which says something.  I can feel the distant 'horse bow' lineage in it.  At 55" strung I bet it would do just fine with mounted archery.
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Kevin Dill on May 13, 2014, 06:39:00 AM
As a direct result of Abe's decision to send out his Tuktu Ex, I ended up placing an order for one. I had been looking at them when he began the pass-around, and I happened to be the first guy to receive it. Now I'm happy to say there's a custom Tuktu Ex headed for a certain UPS drop, and then south from there.

Thank you Abe!
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Bill Carlsen on May 23, 2014, 07:22:00 PM
Before I offer my thoughts on my week with the Tuktu I want to remind everyone that I have almost always shot a metal riser recurve along with an elevated rest and plunger. For the past 10 years or so I have been shooting a DAS riser with various high tech recurve limbs. So I was curious to see how this bow stacked up to them and to my now deceased buddy, Stan Levy, who had an original Tuktu that I really liked.

The bow is beautiful and a hunter's dream. Craftsmanship was superb, woods were beautiful, it's finish was so flat that it seemed that it had only been sanded, and it shot quietly. The real issue was..."How does it shoot"?

I set the string at a 7.25" brace height which Abe recommended. At a higher brace height it just did not perform well for me at all and I was initially not impressed. Once I got the brace right the bow was surprisingly very accurate. It only took me a couple of shots to feel comfortable with it. Partly, I think, due to the offset grip on the riser which made "pointing" it very easy and natural. I have osteo arthritis in the base of my left thumb and had to modify the grips on my ILF bows to shoot comfortably and with the doc's approval and the grip on the Tuktu was not a problem for me at all. It had a different but very comfortable feel to it.

My ILF bows have lots of preload in the limbs. I did not put the Tuktu on a scale to check that but subjectively it seemed more like an "ordinary" recurve on the draw. It was smooth to pull, no finger pinch and upon release several things happened. One was that there was no handshock. Second, there was very little sound...very quiet. Third, it was fast. I shot one of my Axis 400's with a 200 grain point (29" bop) and held and shot it with the same sight picture I use with my ILF bows. Fourth, and most importantly, it was accurate. Hit the spot or very close to it every time! That really impressed me. Everyone wants to get the arrow where they want it and I had no trouble doing that with this bow. In particular, it was always on line. Right and left arrow flight was not an issue at all.

The bow, for me, was very reminiscent of a 50's style recurve but it's shooting qualities where more like the high tech limbs I have been shooting for some time, now. It is sort of like a super up Kodiak or Red Wing Hunter.

We have 5 acres at the house so I was able to wander the orchard and woods shooting at anything I wanted to. Hardly ever missed and if I did it was high or low....never right or left. I doubt that I will be giving up my DAS risers and ILF limbs any time soon but if I had to pick one bow to replace them I would have to say the Tuktu would be at the top of the list. I loved the offset grip....didn't bother my thumb at all and it made it easy to point, as I have already said. It is one of the easiest bows to shoot accurately "out of the box" that I have had in my hands. Reminded me a lot of my old Groves bows but without the stack at 28". The feel of the bow is different than the ILFs I have been shooting but the feeling of having that arrow go where you want was the same. And that is the most important thing. The bow gave me confidence that I did not expect. Abe has done a great job on this design and his workmanship speaks for itself. Anyone investing in one of these bows will not be disappointed at all.
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: hybridbow hunter on May 24, 2014, 02:45:00 AM
I am really lucky to have received one.

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Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: V I Archer on May 25, 2014, 02:19:00 PM
My wife accused Abe of being a marketing genius.  I shot the tuktu pass around and shortly after sending it off to the next guy, I phoned Abe about a 2 piece featherhorn.  

The tuktu is an amazing bow, so much fun to shoot, but hazardous to your wallet  ;)
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Cari-bow on May 26, 2014, 11:07:00 AM
Bill
Real sorry about Stan Levy. It's been a long time since I meant Stan and I had no idea he is gone.
Sorry for your loss.
Abe
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Bill Carlsen on May 26, 2014, 01:23:00 PM
Abe: He was fighting cancer for a number of years. Finally lost the battle last winter (2013). I didn't even know about it until last July. He really loved your bows. I believe his grandson has the Tuktu he owned. Don't know what Malissa did with the Featherhorns.
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: drewsbow on June 01, 2014, 01:07:00 PM
Thanks so much Abe for letting me shoot your bow it was a pleasure .
I don't know what to say that hasn't been said but if you are in the market for this style bow you should give this a look.
I shot my normal arrows out of it and though under spined , my bow is ten pounds lighter, this thing spit them pretty good . I was able to hold consistant groups right away with this bow. My arrows weigh in at 740 and 840 for what I shoot and still seemed to be plenty fast , Over all the fit and finish was great and a very pleasant bow to shoot. Thanks again Abe . Drew
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Jarrod Reno on June 01, 2014, 07:28:00 PM
Having just gotten into traditional archery I was able to shoot through 20+ different bows at RMSgear in Denver over the course of a couple weeks. After finding  Abe's bows online I realized rMS had a couple of them... Took one shot on a Featherhorn to slap a giant grin on my face and then plastered it there when I shot a peregrine. Sadly the peregrin was our of my weight range (64 @ 28 and I pull 31), went with the Featherhorn and love it... That being said I know for sure the tuktu is next on my list. Crossing my fingers that this pass around starts up again this summer  :)  I'd love to give it a whirl!
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: katman on June 05, 2014, 02:59:00 PM
My time with the travel bow has passed, mailed her off to the next recipient today.

The bow shot very well with authority, I am a longbow guy and it would take while to get used to the high preload but she sure rockets an arrow as the payoff. Loved the looks and ease of assembly.

Thanks Abe.
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Tajue17 on June 07, 2014, 05:46:00 AM
I just noticed on the tracking it was coming from SC,, was hoping it killed a few hogs while there??      but looking forward to this bow, I'm a big fan of 50's styles and was excited when Abe announced this pass around.

tracking says its out for delivery today so when I get home from work I'll have at it..
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: katman on June 07, 2014, 07:04:00 AM
Ted hope you enjoy your time with the bow, did not get out in the field, its a busy golf season here in Myrtle Beach, SC
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Tajue17 on June 14, 2014, 09:52:00 PM
I need everyone who recently had this bow to read this.    I received the bow and what a gorgeous bow, pulled smooth shot fast the t/d system is just awesome!       the string was acting funny actually it wasn't that funny so I called Abe and after giving a description of the string it had which was black/Yellow with black yarn type puffs we realized it was a different string????  

somebody must of swapped the string at some point so if any of you received this bow with a black/yellow string and black puffs with over sized loops then you need to know that was the wrong string for this bow, maybe something happened to the original who knows but I felt everyone who had the bow should know.

Abe is making another string and the pass around will continue.
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: arrowlauncherdj on June 14, 2014, 11:40:00 PM
That was the string that came on it when I had it.
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: drewsbow on June 15, 2014, 09:44:00 AM
thats the string it had when I recieved it    :dunno:
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Joeabowhunter on June 15, 2014, 04:02:00 PM
same string I had on it it February...you can see it in my pics.
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: elk nailer on June 15, 2014, 06:22:00 PM
If you look at Abe's first post you can see a black and yellow string with yarn puffs.
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Tajue17 on June 16, 2014, 12:47:00 PM
not sure but I felt the loops where too big so I sent it back for him to check out and he made a new string.
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: katman on June 16, 2014, 04:44:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by drewsbow:
thats the string it had when I recieved it     :dunno:  
x2

Loops did look big
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Dannon on June 16, 2014, 04:51:00 PM
Is it too late to get in on this pass around?
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Florida lime on June 16, 2014, 05:32:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Dannon:
Is it too late to get in on this pass around?
Dannon - from the page previous -

QuoteOriginally posted by Cari-bow:
Steve,Robhood
This closed down last year in November. Now I may open it up again after we are done with this run. Which could at the end of June or July. They have been a number of inquires after the close down date.
Keep watching at the end for an up date.
Abe
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Tajue17 on June 16, 2014, 05:52:00 PM
I think the pass around list is full but only Abe would know, think I'll go to the end of the line where I sent it for a new string to not hold anyone up who was planning for it on a certain week.
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Dan bree on June 17, 2014, 10:11:00 AM
Why did I have to read this post!    Called up Abe and got a in stock tuktu it's the bacote. Td.   Thanks to all for making me decide.
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Tajue17 on June 22, 2014, 05:46:00 AM
Bow is on its way back with new string, I decided not to wait another 6mths but I'll run its through its paces,, nothing to hunt here now!  frogs don't even open till July so stumps it will be,, I'll give the heads up where its going next when I know.
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Tajue17 on June 26, 2014, 07:03:00 PM
got the Tuktu Back yesterday and finally got a chance to shoot this bow today about 140 arrows. it shoots so much better with the new string,, seems about as fast as the previous string but a lot more quiet at the shot no more synthetic twang.

not sure what model arrow Abe sends with the bow but its dead perfect!  even at my max distance today 27yds the bow was dead on with this arrow,,, my personal arrows are heritage 150's and 250's and what I found is the best arrow from my own stash that shoot as good as Abe's arrow for my 27" draw was the 29" heritage 150 with stock insert and 125gr point but I did like Abe's arrow better for accuracy it just seemed to go there at the longer distance,, I used to own two Sovereign Ballistics which where statics and this bow doesn't seem as sensitive as they where, this tuktu  has wider limbs and I'm no bowyer but maybe that's why.

the grip is meaty and has a decent size throat but holding it is comfortable for me.

I'm keeping the bow till after the weekend to take it to my club where I can get some more shots at better targets and stumps and really see how it shoots then I'll post again one last time but for those in line next after me I think you'll be happy with this one it was worth the wait.

whoever has this during deer season I'm already Jealous,, its such a beautiful bow in person its 50's retro but with a modern twist and it just belongs on a deer stand..
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: V I Archer on June 27, 2014, 02:49:00 PM
I have to stop reading this thread, it makes the wait for my featherhorn all the more torturous.
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Jarrod Reno on June 27, 2014, 11:56:00 PM
V I Archer - I shoot a Featherhorn. You won't be dissapointed! The tuktu will surely be my next bow, still crossing my fingers on trying this one out  ;)
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Tajue17 on June 30, 2014, 05:11:00 PM
I just wanted to make my final post, this bow was awesome!  much much better with this new string and I just kept shooting abes arrow over and over and it was dead on for me.  

I think everyone after me will really like it at first I thought the grip was a tad chunky based on what I'm used to but out in the woods I just tightened down on the throat of the grip and it was right there.  fast, quiet, and seems to be consistent & no where near as sensitive as my last Ballistic was.  I wanted to have this out this morning to the next guy but got back late last night so I'm calling Abe after this to see who I'm sending it to.
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: Tajue17 on July 02, 2014, 01:06:00 PM
Bow is on its way to Michigan!
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: elk nailer on July 02, 2014, 08:23:00 PM
Just got the e-mail from Abe, the bow is on its way!!!
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: elk nailer on July 03, 2014, 07:37:00 PM
Mail lady brought me a package today! Boy is it pretty! Had it put together and strung in 15 min.
Abe really built a Farrarii with this bow, man is it quick. Totally different than my Tiaga. I've got a week with it and will check in then.
Title: Re: Pass around Tuktu Ex TD
Post by: elk nailer on July 09, 2014, 09:41:00 PM
The bow is on its way to Goodrich MI.


Well, after a week with the bow I'm checking back in.
I first shot the bow with the supplied carbon arrow. I don't like carbon arrows. I shoot wood.65-70, 29.25"- 540 gr. They flew great!
I tried 2117's but had to turn the cock feather in to get good arrow flight.
The bow is feather light compared to my Taiga. The draw was a little stiff compared to the Taiga but I got used to it. I think a 62" wood have suited me better. Good looks, great craftsmanship, great shooting bow, Abe should be proud of his creation.
The bow is now on its way to Goodrich Mi.