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Title: BAD case of the "shoulda's"!
Post by: Fattony77 on November 07, 2013, 04:16:00 AM
Tuesday I went down to visit with my uncle & check out some of his local hunting areas to see if I could find my first deer.

Found a couple small rubs, but nothing that screamed "hunt me!" So, I decided to walk down a creek & see what was shakin' and stopped on a high bank, just to watch the fish jump and soak in the beauty of God's creation. Much to my surprise, I looked across the creek and saw a beautiful 8 pt. buck cruising along on the other side of the creek!

I was standing at a sharp bend in the creek & the water was about 10 feet below me, with a 3-4 ft. bank just to my left. As he got closer, I turned slightly to my right to prepare for any possible shot opportunities (right handed shooter).

When he stopped at the point of the bend, he was facing me, put both front feet into the water and looked carefully at my side. I could almost see the wheels turning in his head, "Should I go over there & see if there's any ladies?" Then as he noted the steep climb out on my side, "Nah, forget it, I'll see what's happening this side."

While all this was going on, I was thinking, "You're not used to shooting from this high," (strictly a ground hunter here, so I don't practice from tree stands or anything), and "He looks kinda far." I'm a terrible judge of distance, so the best I can tell ya is that he was probably between 20 and 30 yards away. He was close enough that I could see the "sweet spot" behind his leg VERY well.

As he left, he offered one more good, quick shot opportunity, as he quartered away, I slightly raised my bow arm and watched him walk out of my life.

Looking back, I can't help but think that it was no more of a difficult shot than I have encountered on the 3D course, and that I SHOULDA tried to take the shot.     :bigsmyl:  

-Tony
Title: Re: BAD case of the "shoulda's"!
Post by: b.glass on November 07, 2013, 07:42:00 AM
4:16 AM! Loosing sleep too? JK. The only deer I have taken was not the perfect shot choice for most people. All I can tell you is that it "felt" right.

That feeling has been few and far between for me.
Title: Re: BAD case of the "shoulda's"!
Post by: bigb3303 on November 07, 2013, 08:02:00 AM
:clapper:   In my opinion , you made the right call! If you are not 100% confident in a shot, I dont think it should be taken. Becouse we owe the animals we hunt a quick and timly death. you can never take an arrow back, so a shot not taken , is beter then a wooded deer. In my opinon it takes more self controll, and a better hunter to do what you did, then to try a shot your not sure about. Best of luck to you on the rest of your season, and If you stick with it, and need the meat, god will provide in one form or another.
Title: Re: BAD case of the "shoulda's"!
Post by: ChuckC on November 07, 2013, 08:12:00 AM
Sounds like you did OK.  

We need to look at this from a larger view, with multiple aspects observed.  

Did you skillfully and successfully make a shot ?  

Did you make the correct call and not take the shot at all(because it wasn't right.. for you at that time) ?  

Did you show some forest savvy and go to the right place, stand at the right place, etc to allow the activity to unfold ?  

Give yourself some points.  You got close to a nice deer, you made some decisions and they appear to have been reasonable ones.

A less than stellar shot at what sounds like an extreme of your range, under stressed conditions and you would remember this episode as the one where you gut shot a nice buck.

I can tell you this much,  I have been at this for a long time and have killed more than a few deer, if that deer was 30 yards away, I wouldn't have shot either.

Enjoy it and go get another one.

ChuckC
Title: Re: BAD case of the "shoulda's"!
Post by: Fattony77 on November 07, 2013, 08:20:00 AM
I REALLY appreciate y'all's input. I usually just get a lot of grief from my friends & family (good hearted) because I "still haven't killed anything." I don't want that to ever be the deciding factor when I'm faced with a shoot or no shoot situation, though. Sometimes I wonder if I'm not being too conservative though.
Title: Re: BAD case of the "shoulda's"!
Post by: Whip on November 07, 2013, 08:22:00 AM
When a shot opportunity presents itself if you are not 100% confident that you can make the shot the odds are very high that the results won't be good. To me confidence is very important. If I think I might fail I inevitably do. If I am very confident I can do it, that deer is in trouble.  

If it doesn't feel right, let it pass. I'd say you made a good decision.
Title: Re: BAD case of the "shoulda's"!
Post by: RAU on November 07, 2013, 08:31:00 AM
Just think how lousy youd feel if you put a bad hit on him. If there was any doubt in your mind well then in my opinion you did the right thing. Ive made some less than perfect hits when ive felt really confident in the situation. Get back out there and get him!
Title: Re: BAD case of the "shoulda's"!
Post by: hogless on November 07, 2013, 11:34:00 AM
If your not comfortable with the shot don't take it . Keep at it you will get a shot with in your comfort zone and you know it will be right
Title: Re: BAD case of the "shoulda's"!
Post by: JMR on November 07, 2013, 11:50:00 AM
You made the right call. I will take the " I shoulda" feeling over the " I wish I wouldn't have" feeling anytime. If your brain is telling you no its going to be hard to make the shot.
Title: Re: BAD case of the "shoulda's"!
Post by: far rider on November 07, 2013, 12:48:00 PM
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: BAD case of the "shoulda's"!
Post by: SELFBOW19953 on November 07, 2013, 04:06:00 PM
If you have to think about the shot, better not to shoot.  When I KNOW it's right, I don't hesitate.  As soon as I start thinking, I don't shoot.
Title: Re: BAD case of the "shoulda's"!
Post by: wetfeathers on November 08, 2013, 06:06:00 AM
Quote
Originally posted by SELFBOW19953:
If you have to think about the shot, better not to shoot.  When I KNOW it's right, I don't hesitate.  As soon as I start thinking, I don't shoot.
X2
Title: Re: BAD case of the "shoulda's"!
Post by: Altiman94 on November 08, 2013, 11:12:00 AM
You made the right choice but not taking the shot.  It's really hard for a lot of us to pass up shots and you made the right decision.  You'll see him again and hopefully within your comfortable zone.

I'm glad this thread is kicking yourself for not shooting, rather than asking advice on a poorly hit deer.  You'd feel much worse knowing you doubted the shot, took it, then wounded an animal.
Title: Re: BAD case of the "shoulda's"!
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on November 09, 2013, 09:11:00 AM
That is hunting at its finest right there.... Confidence in your ability to make a good shot is everything. if you are second guessing yourself in any way, the odds are against you.

Your statement "I can't help but think that it was no more of a difficult shot than I have encountered on the 3D course, and that I SHOULDA tried to take the shot.  [banghead] "   is totally off base.

 You are going to find that enough things are going to happen all by themselves that determine whether or not a good shot is made on an animal.

 If the shot feels right, take it and you'll hit your spot. If there is ever a question, or even a hesitation.... you are best off passing.
Title: Re: BAD case of the "shoulda's"!
Post by: Jmatt1957 on November 09, 2013, 09:33:00 AM
you did the right thing. instead of second guessing and wondering what if. spend your time thinking how can I get across the creek and where is a good pot to set up next time.
Title: Re: BAD case of the "shoulda's"!
Post by: on November 09, 2013, 12:31:00 PM
I have never taken a 25+yd shot at a deer. 3D targets all day long, with mostly good results. I just don't trust myself, and the deer, enough for it all to work out on long shots like that.

I would say you did the right thing by NOT shooting at that deer! What was me3ntioned above about having 100% confidence at the time of the shot is right on! If you are doubting yourself at that time, there is a good chance you will not be successful.

Bisch
Title: Re: BAD case of the "shoulda's"!
Post by: Cootling on November 09, 2013, 04:29:00 PM
The best course of action is to make decisions that enhance your self-respect.  Then when success comes, you'll feel 100% good about it.

I think you done good.
Title: Re: BAD case of the "shoulda's"!
Post by: reddogge on November 09, 2013, 07:08:00 PM
You know in your heart you did the wise thing. 40 years ago I'd have taken the shot but I've mellowed. 5 years ago I had a shot at one of the biggest trophy whitetails I have ever seen while scrunched down behind the tongue of a utility trailer in my driveway but he was about 25-30 yards off and I didn't want to wound him. I know I did the right thing too.
Title: Re: BAD case of the "shoulda's"!
Post by: tracker12 on November 09, 2013, 07:17:00 PM
Not sure the shot was not well within your capability.  But that being said if you are not confident pass.  I think that dyeing committed to the shot and confident you can get it done is a big piece of he puzzle.  I have started doing a lot of shooting at 30 yards these days.  If I can consistently make killing shots at that distance 20 and under make it easy.  I did the same with the old wheel bow.  Practice at 45 and 25 becomes a slam dunk.
Title: Re: BAD case of the "shoulda's"!
Post by: NYArrow on November 09, 2013, 07:35:00 PM
Happens more often than you think! Once you start to get into range of deer on a regular basis, you will find that only about 1/3 of those encounters happen to present shot opportunities. It's amazing how a buck will stop in the 1 spot you can't shoot....or some other similar scenario. Keep it up and you will connect soon!
Title: Re: BAD case of the "shoulda's"!
Post by: Fattony77 on November 10, 2013, 02:23:00 AM
Thank you all, so much! This is exactly the kind of encouragement I needed to hear!