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Title: Old Bow & Arrows Discovered
Post by: Kingsnake on October 30, 2013, 08:43:00 PM
Anybody already post on this discovery in Norway?  OLD (i.e., 5400 years old) bows and arrows discovered in Norway as snow and ice melts.

http://www.nbcnews.com/science/melting-snow-reveals-millennia-old-bow-arrows-norway-8C11313602

Kingsnake
Title: Re: Old Bow & Arrows Discovered
Post by: koger on October 30, 2013, 09:00:00 PM
Man is that cool, thanks for posting this!
Title: Re: Old Bow & Arrows Discovered
Post by: Mudd on October 30, 2013, 09:05:00 PM
Cool!
Title: Re: Old Bow & Arrows Discovered
Post by: trick00 on October 30, 2013, 09:24:00 PM
awesome!!
Title: Re: Old Bow & Arrows Discovered
Post by: ChuckC on October 30, 2013, 11:09:00 PM
So, I have a question. . .  if they were buried for near 5,000 years,and there is nearly a 2,000 year difference in age of the arrows and they are first now being uncovered because of warm conditions (melt), does that tell us that, 5,000 years ago the snow pack was where it is now, and that we have been in a cold spell for the last 5,000 years, and that the conditions around then were similar or even warmer just prior (to have had a snow pack with margins "where the gear was found" ) ?

ChuckC
Title: Re: Old Bow & Arrows Discovered
Post by: Trad Whitetail on October 30, 2013, 11:29:00 PM
Bingo Chuck!  The earth has been far warmer and far colder in the past many times.  Its cyclical (despite what the self-appointed environmentalists tell us).  Cool find!
Title: Re: Old Bow & Arrows Discovered
Post by: Mudd on October 31, 2013, 06:56:00 AM
ChuckC, It might not be wise to challenge those global warming folks with logical thinking....lol

:archer:
Title: Re: Old Bow & Arrows Discovered
Post by: Matt Green on October 31, 2013, 07:13:00 AM
Chuck
You just got yourself an audit nxt year. Next you'll try to convince us that carbon dating is perfect and should not be questioned.
Title: Re: Old Bow & Arrows Discovered
Post by: Cootling on October 31, 2013, 08:41:00 AM
ChuckC has a point that has nothing to do with global warming.  

I only know a little about carbon dating, but error and precision are two different things.  It's not surprising for estimates to be "off" the actual date by some hundreds of years.  However, commonly cited causes of error would not seem likely to produce 2000-year variation among items with a common origin, stored at the same place.  It's also noteable that the difference is being described as if it is believed to be actual; otherwise I would expect an approximate figure of around 4000 years.
Title: Re: Old Bow & Arrows Discovered
Post by: ChuckC on October 31, 2013, 09:24:00 AM
Still. . . . with my questions aside (I am certain that my office is happy, I retired three months ago,  I always asked "too many questions" and don't tend to follow like a sheep).  

Cool find.

ChuckC
Title: Re: Old Bow & Arrows Discovered
Post by: Tim Finley on October 31, 2013, 10:59:00 AM
How could the bow be 1600 years older than the arrows ?
Title: Re: Old Bow & Arrows Discovered
Post by: ARCHER2 on October 31, 2013, 11:09:00 AM
It belonged to his great, great, grampa.   :archer:    :dunno:
Title: Re: Old Bow & Arrows Discovered
Post by: ChuckC on October 31, 2013, 11:45:00 AM
:laughing:    maybe it was a great stand location. . .  for 2,000 years !

ChuckC
Title: Re: Old Bow & Arrows Discovered
Post by: Kingsnake on October 31, 2013, 01:18:00 PM
"How could bow be 1600 years older than arrows?"

Easy . . My bow is certainly older than every arrow I own due to loss and breakage of arrows.  

Still . . .must have been a well-made bow!

  :bigsmyl:  

Kingsnake
Title: Re: Old Bow & Arrows Discovered
Post by: stabow on October 31, 2013, 01:55:00 PM
Speaking of carbon dating  in a couple thousand years from now when they find a carbon arrow how old do you think it will be....... :)
Title: Re: Old Bow & Arrows Discovered
Post by: Thumper Dunker on October 31, 2013, 08:27:00 PM
Cool stuff. Stabow they will just read the numbers on them.   :)
Title: Re: Old Bow & Arrows Discovered
Post by: Mike Mecredy on November 01, 2013, 10:43:00 AM
Maybe 1600 years earlier "his people" made a crap load of arrows, and the guy that left his bow there, made it to use with the super cool old arrows. Arrows that had been stashed for use incase there was a zombie apocalypse or something.
Title: Re: Old Bow & Arrows Discovered
Post by: huntnmuleys on November 02, 2013, 07:55:00 AM
wow.  very interesting....
Title: Re: Old Bow & Arrows Discovered
Post by: Shakes.602 on November 02, 2013, 10:27:00 AM
Well, if there were ever any questions...... There Ya Go! The First TradGangers!!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Old Bow & Arrows Discovered
Post by: jackdaw on November 02, 2013, 01:47:00 PM
amazing....!!!!