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Post by: RC on October 29, 2013, 12:05:00 PM
BLAM!!! you step on a snake.

 I sat till 11:00 this morning with no action other than a bunch of Turkeys coming through. I started out and stepped on this rascal. I`m almost sure its a Coral snake but could be a scarlet King. Good for raising the heart rate either way.RC
 (http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w39/rcswampbucket/IMG_0209_zps31201620.jpg) (http://s172.photobucket.com/user/rcswampbucket/media/IMG_0209_zps31201620.jpg.html)
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Post by: johnnyk71 on October 29, 2013, 12:07:00 PM
that's a coral snake. good sized one too.
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Post by: Will Cocke 2 on October 29, 2013, 12:08:00 PM
Red then yellow will kill a fellow.
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Post by: Blackjack on October 29, 2013, 12:10:00 PM
yep coral....red touches yellow,kill a fellow....red touches black,friend of jack....learned that in scouts 30 years ago,easy way to identify the two
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Post by: Blackjack on October 29, 2013, 12:11:00 PM
posting at same time...
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Post by: steadman on October 29, 2013, 12:18:00 PM
Dang Robert, glad he didn't get you!!
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Post by: Mudd on October 29, 2013, 12:19:00 PM
While it would increase my heart rate as well,  it might also make me go home for some clean drawers...lol

I'm glad to saw him in time to avoid any problems.

God bless,Mudd
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Post by: Gen273 on October 29, 2013, 12:20:00 PM
Wow, that will get your heart rate up!
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Post by: Ric O'Shay on October 29, 2013, 12:21:00 PM
If that didn't hurt me, it would certainly make me hurt myself...   :saywhat:
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Post by: Fritz on October 29, 2013, 12:40:00 PM
Dang! That's a big coral snake.
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Post by: leftyfred on October 29, 2013, 12:46:00 PM
What would that look like backed on a bow?  LF
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Post by: Bladepeek on October 29, 2013, 01:00:00 PM
My dad taught me a similar rhyme, even though we live in MI and don't get coral snakes up here;

"Red and yellow hurt a fellow - red and black, venom lack". I understand the coral snake has to get a small section of skin in his mouth to bite as their mouths don't open like a pit viper's do. As Ric O'Shay said, he wouldn't have to hurt me - I'd hurt myself probably bouncing off one of our satellites before coming back down hard.
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Post by: Hoyt on October 29, 2013, 01:05:00 PM
I've only seen one in the woods at Tosohatchee WMA close to Orlands. Took his picture  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v71/Iflytrout/Pictures/CoralSnakez.jpg)

That one is a big one you saw..I've heard but don't know for sure that their mouth is so small they can't actually stike you, but have to bite you and chew like in place such as the loose meat between you thumb and first finger.

I read that somewhere a long time ago don't know if true or not.
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Post by: David Brent on October 29, 2013, 01:27:00 PM
That just SUCKS!!!! One good reason to live in NE Ohio. No chiggers, few ticks and really no poisonous snakes. I hunt north central PA though and have seen some Jim Dandy Timber rattlers. Even found a couple dens in late turkey season and they were laying everywhere around that den.
Sure ruined that morning.

Dave
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Post by: Looper on October 29, 2013, 02:43:00 PM
Yep, that's a nice coral snake. You're pretty safe with one of those. They are rear fanged, so they really have to chew on you. They're not aggressive, either. I hope you let him go about his business.
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Post by: Robertfishes on October 29, 2013, 05:00:00 PM
thats a big one. Coral snakes have a black nose...I can never remember the rhyme. I have caught them and relocated them, water moccasins are the ones I hate to run across
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Post by: monterey on October 29, 2013, 05:05:00 PM
He looks "out of business" to me!  :)
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Post by: Hopewell Tom on October 29, 2013, 05:27:00 PM
I don't think RC is big on letting snakes "continue with their day..."
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Post by: JEFF B on October 29, 2013, 05:41:00 PM
the only good snake is a DEAD ONE!!!!   :scared:
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Post by: glenbo on October 29, 2013, 06:50:00 PM
He is lucky he didn't feel the wrath of the Texas Flood
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Post by: Josh Perdue on October 29, 2013, 07:02:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by JEFF B:
the only good snake is a DEAD ONE!!!!    :scared:  
Buddy, I'm with you on that one.
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Post by: Gator1 on October 29, 2013, 07:32:00 PM
I'll take skeeters    :notworthy:    :notworthy:
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Post by: RC on October 29, 2013, 07:52:00 PM
Thats only the second one of those I have ever seen. I flipped him out of the way with my bow tip. Had it been a rattler or cottonmouth he would not have made it.RC
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Post by: Butch Speer on October 29, 2013, 08:08:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Mudd:
While it would increase my heart rate as well,  it might also make me go home for some clean drawers...lol

I'm glad to saw him in time to avoid any problems.

God bless,Mudd
But Mudd, it ain't Saturday!
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Post by: achigan on October 29, 2013, 08:13:00 PM
"Red on yellow, poison fellow; red on black, safe from attack."
From Wiki. jim
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Post by: Cookie125 on October 29, 2013, 08:15:00 PM
always told red touches yellow means you're a dead fellow.

Very cool find as long as you remain safe. Keep your eyes out.
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Post by: achigan on October 29, 2013, 08:16:00 PM
OK, way too slow with that, gotta read further before I post   :readit:
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Post by: achigan on October 29, 2013, 08:21:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by jshperdue:
 
QuoteOriginally posted by JEFF B:
the only good snake is a DEAD ONE!!!!     :scared:  
Buddy, I'm with you on that one. [/b]
Mebbe we should join the 21st century. Most snakes out there are our friends, eating varmints and pests.
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Post by: far rider on October 29, 2013, 09:36:00 PM
Dang RC!
That's a dandy. I guess I'll have to look out for those, the rattlers, and cotton mouths in January WHILE I'm looking for hogs! I don't care who you are, or if your not afraid of them. That first initial moment you realize what your looking at is a snake, you WILL skip a beat!
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Post by: LimBender on October 29, 2013, 10:11:00 PM
To me, copperheads are the most aggressive, scary suckers. Cottonmouths usually try to hit the water.  Never seen a coral snake in the wild.  Thanks RC.
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Post by: Duncan on October 29, 2013, 10:25:00 PM
Wow! the only N American venomous snake I have not seen. They are here in NC but are somewhat reclusive. The likelihood of being bitten is pretty rare. I have also heard the red touch black rhyme used to remember which snake is poisonous and that they have to chew to break the skin. They are so deadly because their venom works on the nervous system like the cobra's.
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Post by: Big Ed on October 30, 2013, 09:00:00 AM
That thing gives me the hebejebe's just seeing the picture! Not into snakes at all.
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Post by: Mike Falkner on October 30, 2013, 09:26:00 AM
Big coral snake there.  Cool weather will fool you, we've killed cottonmouths in/around our duck blind in December/January.
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Post by: wooddamon1 on October 30, 2013, 10:17:00 AM
Beautiful snake, thanks for sharing.
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Post by: SELFBOW19953 on October 30, 2013, 10:41:00 AM
I used to see them fairly regularly when I was growing up in Florida.  Because we told her they don't strike, my mother killed one with her high heel on her way to a wedding.

I would love to get the skins of a couple of big ones for bow backing.  Don't have them here in Delaware.
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Post by: Bullfrog 1 on October 30, 2013, 03:08:00 PM
I'd have boots on up to my ears!!!! Bill
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Post by: Shakes.602 on October 30, 2013, 05:33:00 PM
Yeppers, would have to Change the Huggies after  THAT!!  :eek:     YIKES!!  :scared:    :scared:   I live by the Old Addage, "The Only  GOOD  Snake is a  DEAD SNAKE!!"    :thumbsup:
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Post by: on October 31, 2013, 01:14:00 AM
No doubt, coral snake!

Bisch
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Post by: nomansland4404 on October 31, 2013, 08:04:00 AM
Beautiful snake. It amazes me at the big tough bowhunters  that are scared of such a neat animal
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Post by: Bladepeek on October 31, 2013, 11:32:00 AM
nomansland4404, not all "big tough bowhunters" are created equal   :)  

I grew up outside Detroit and have never seen the only poisonous snake in Michigan. I used to play with the non-poisonous ones, letting garter snakes crawl up my sleeves, etc. Then, for some unknown reason, I developed a phobia of snakes. There is simply no way I could touch one now.

I spent some time at Fort Sill OK, and Fort Hood TX and developed a healthy respect for their rattlers. St Louis, MO taught me to respect copperheads and water moccasins.

The only snake I have killed was a copperhead in our fireplace woodpile. He scarred the snot out of me and got his head smashed before I even thought about it. I will help a snake across a road to keep it from being run over if I can find a stick long enough.

I can approach a snake if I see it well in advance, but if I look down and see I'm standing on, or about to be stepping on a snake, it's either heart attack time or new world record long jump time.

For some it's heights, for some spiders, for me it's snakes. Just can't help it.
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Post by: gregg dudley on October 31, 2013, 09:19:00 PM
They are fairly common on Central Florida WMAs.  I associate them with sand pine areas.  Cool snakes.  I sold a big one to Ross Allen's Reptile Institute at Silver Springs Attraction when I was a kid.  It was right at 42 inches.  Average is around 36.
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Post by: UrbanArcher1975 on October 31, 2013, 09:22:00 PM
I had never heard the rhymes. I'm glad to know them!
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Post by: gregg dudley on October 31, 2013, 09:43:00 PM
I always heard red and yellow kill a fellow; red and black friend of Jack.
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Post by: fujimo on November 01, 2013, 11:16:00 AM
am originally from africa, mambas, cobras and puff adders galore, had them in the house, on the vines around the house, and all over the bush- saw them very regularly, and the only times i have ever been bitten, was when i was messing with them. they only bite in defence!!

They play a critical role in the eco system. sad to say, but the attitude of "kill everything we find inconvenient" is what has led us into this environmental pickle we find ourselves in today.

walk around them. or do as RC did just flip them out of the way- we really dont need to kill everything we see , just 'cos we can. unless of course yer gonna eat it.
by the way, they are pretty good eating- eaten a few in my time!!
biggest snakes i ever caught was a "mozambique spitting cobra" that was about 3.5 meters-approx- never measured him!!!- just got him out of the living quarters a.s.a.p.
and a python- that i did measure at over 5 meters- trying to eat a domestic goat- it was heavy- took 3 of us to carry it, and keep it from coiling up on one of us.

i say let em go on their way!!
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Post by: typical2 on November 01, 2013, 02:39:00 PM
Makes me love Michigan!
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Post by: SELFBOW19953 on November 01, 2013, 08:12:00 PM
That's the way I always heard the rhyme, Gregg.  I grew up on an old sand hill a bit south of Palatka, and just as you said, we saw quite a few coral snakes.  I sure hope they get Silver Springs back to what it was when Ross Allen ran it.
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Post by: Shakes.602 on November 01, 2013, 08:25:00 PM
I wont go out of my way to kill one, just for the reason it is what it is. Dont get me wrong, if We can avoid each other, all the better for it. If not, IT is Toast!
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Post by: Sam McMichael on November 01, 2013, 08:52:00 PM
RC, you post more pics of snakes you have run across than anybody on trad gang. Glad you haven't gotten hurt.