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Title: Snuffer vs shoulder blade ...
Post by: Mr.Magoo on October 27, 2013, 07:11:00 PM
Since I had a fresh one ... why not.

145 Snuffer.  Sharp.  Arrow 570gr.  #55 Bob Lee recurve.  

(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n217/dave27615/snuffer.jpg)

That's about how far it was stuck into the block target after going through.
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Post by: RecurveRookie on October 27, 2013, 07:16:00 PM
Yeah, nice!
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Post by: Ga.boy on October 27, 2013, 07:18:00 PM
Wow. Would probablt have been a pass through on a deer. SHARP Snuffers are bad medicine.
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Post by: SlowBowinMO on October 27, 2013, 08:38:00 PM
Gotta love Snuffers!   :thumbsup:
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Post by: Shan on October 27, 2013, 08:49:00 PM
:thumbsup:
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Post by: SERGIO VENNERI on October 27, 2013, 08:50:00 PM
Absolutely the Best!  :thumbsup:
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Post by: LeverActionman on October 27, 2013, 09:37:00 PM
What kind of arrow are you shooting and how did you get it that heavy.
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Post by: nineworlds9 on October 27, 2013, 09:52:00 PM
Oh goody, I'm using the 125's this year
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Post by: Gen273 on October 27, 2013, 09:56:00 PM
Roger Rothhaar knew what he was doing when he made the Big Ole Snuffer!
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Post by: BDann on October 27, 2013, 10:00:00 PM
Whatever you do, DO NOT show your wife the picture of the critter parts on her patio furniture.  She may use the snuffer on your shoulder blade!   :biglaugh:
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Post by: overbo on October 28, 2013, 06:23:00 AM
Only 2 blade heads can do that! NOT
Title: Re: Snuffer vs shoulder blade ...
Post by: Mr.Magoo on October 28, 2013, 10:03:00 AM
For the question above ... I re-weighed to make sure. 45/60 CE Terminator cut 29" comes in at 316gr. + 269 for the head (125 adapter and 145 head (a grain missing somewhere)) actually comes in at 585gr.

Must've read the scale wrong last night.
Title: Re: Snuffer vs shoulder blade ...
Post by: woodchucker on October 28, 2013, 10:30:00 AM
Snuffers are a Big, Heavy Duty, Big Hole Making, Killing Machine!!!!!

They're an EXCELANT Broadhead!!!!!!!!!!

However, The problem with penetrating the shoulder blade, is that it is TOTALY encased in & surrounded by muscle, which acts as a shock absorber and retards penetration by absorbing the forward momentum of the head & arrow. Most good broadheads, will penetrate a shoulder blade if placed firmly against a target & shot at. I'm very interested in how you "placed" the shoulder blade against the target/backstop?????

Very COOL Thread!!!!!!!!!!  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Tajue17 on October 28, 2013, 11:08:00 AM
was the point filed down first?  snuffers are simply awesome heads...
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Post by: bob@helleknife.com on October 28, 2013, 02:27:00 PM
No doubt, a great head!  However I suggest you stay away from the scapula on elk!

60 lb.recurve, 560 grains


 (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y228/BobMcMahan/IMG_0331.jpg) (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/BobMcMahan/media/IMG_0331.jpg.html)

 (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y228/BobMcMahan/IMG_0330.jpg) (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/BobMcMahan/media/IMG_0330.jpg.html)

 (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y228/BobMcMahan/IMG_0326.jpg) (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/BobMcMahan/media/IMG_0326.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Snuffer vs shoulder blade ...
Post by: Mr.Magoo on October 28, 2013, 02:47:00 PM
For the other questions above.  I just stood it in front of a block target, and yes the tips are dubbed.
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Post by: JamesKerr on October 28, 2013, 04:32:00 PM
Nice!
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Post by: Legolas on October 28, 2013, 04:55:00 PM
Stupid question

Did you kill it? LOL
i am usin 160 pop can hole snuffer! You know its where you can plug the exit hole with a pop can.
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Post by: woodchucker on October 28, 2013, 07:41:00 PM
AGAIN, The Snuffer is an AWESOME Broadhead!!!!!

Simply pointing out an observation... and not meaning to start anything!!! "food for thought" so to speak.....

Years ago, I had a compound buddy, shooting a 60-70# or so bow, with "whatever" carbon arrows, and this mechanical whatever unremembered name broadhead, that was supossed to be the greatest thing since sliced bread. He showed me a shoulder blade he had shot & "blew right through!!!!!" I asked if he had another one??? He said yes, and went to the bonepile and handed it to me. We found an old foam couch pillow, and tied the shoulder blade in front of the pillow with a piece of string. We propped it up against the backstop, and I told him to go get his bow & shoot that one.....

The mechanical broadhead FAILED miserably!!!!!

So he say's OK Fred Bear! Let's see what that antique $hi+ of yours can do!!!!! So I get my 47" Grizzly, 50-55# DougFir arrow, tipped with a 125gr Zwickey Eskimo.....

The Zwickey BARELY made it to the back of the ferrule!!!!!

However... With alittle "workin' & wiggelin" I was able to get my broadhead out,touch it up, and put it back in my quiver!!!!!  :bigsmyl:

Just one old Woodchucker's experiance.....
Title: Re: Snuffer vs shoulder blade ...
Post by: bob@helleknife.com on October 29, 2013, 02:24:00 PM
Actually, yes!

The arrow did not bother him one iota.  He was so hot on a cow... I was able to redeem myself less than an hour later.  Just lucky!!
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Post by: AkDan on October 29, 2013, 02:50:00 PM
The issue I have with these tests are they're not really conclusive.  

First take the thin web of a green shoulder and most heads coming out of a well setup and tuned bow should bust through.   Green shoulders are soft an in the right area thin on a whitetail.

You'll see quick in bobs pic not all critters are quality (ment equal LOL).  At that point at least for someone not hunting say cape buff the test is inconclusive.   The bow itself likely didn't have the energy to bust through regardless of head design for said amount of bone .  Its like asking a kids rocket set to fly to the moon.

Now take a look at a any shoulder.   You'll see very fast it's not created equal from edge to edge.  

And lastly shot angle itself can play into how well even a good bow/ bh set penetrates or possibly doesn't.


Personally I think overall the heads a great head. Don't get me wrong here  I'm not knocking it in the least !  I do own a bunch and considered them for bears and long beards but stuck with my Zwickeys for the time being.   I think with a similar medium you'll find similar results from a lot of heads!  (Out of a well tuned well setup bow!

No I will admit these tests are with out pause fun!

(sorry really need to reread before I post LOL!)
Title: Re: Snuffer vs shoulder blade ...
Post by: Don Stokes on October 29, 2013, 03:32:00 PM
But don't shoot shoulder blades deliberately. No percentage in the shot.