I know this is a bit of a whine but drew back on a doe at about 15 yards tonight and never heard the click. I just kept pulling I think and eventually let go and it sailed over her back. I really didn't realize what had happened or that it never went off. Poor excuse I know but I truly need it
I think it is broken now and will not reset itself. Have you guys ever had them go bad like this?
-James
Sorry to hear of your dilema.
Not to be critical - but the more gadgets you rely on the greater the chance of disappointment.
In the words of H.D. Thoreau: "Simplify, simplify."
Sorry you missed never tried a clicker myself-I have a coupla' friends that use them at 3D but not when they are hunting.
Would not the noise be a negative?
Hate to agree with Charlie here but us Charlie's have to stick together.
Bummer about the missed deer though.
I heard that same complaint years ago when they came out and everyone tried them,,,, it was either the string kept getting caught on bushes or they never heard the click... I figure its the excitement during the moment everything gets fuzzy.
If they work fine for people that's cool but try to concentrate on the anchor and pushing your bow hand right towards the spot on the deer like there's an invisible 20yd laser on the end of your arrow point then don't move anything (maybe to watch the arrow or deer) upon release.
The more stuff you put on your bow the more likely something will go wrong. I don't even use a bow quiver.
What Bill said X2.
Sorry bout that.
Part of using a clicker it to be on the target as you are pulling so when the clicker goes off, you release. . . what happened to the "being on the target" part ?
Keep at it, you will get er done.
Chuckc
I've used one for hunting for about 10 years now, while its had a few moments of inconvenience, its helped me alot. I get rid of the chain and pad the clicker with velcro and its super quiet. Dont get me wrong, if I felt I could be as accurate without it I would take it off. For me the benefits outweigh the negatives.
Sorry you missed the doe!
Looks like it is time for a new clicker.
Bisch
hunted my whole life with a bow, never needed a clicker, and so I cant use that excuse.
QuoteOriginally posted by Bill Carlsen:
The more stuff you put on your bow the more likely something will go wrong. I don't even use a bow quiver.
Yep! I cannot agree more. If you can build a mental trigger into the shot sequence I believe you will be better off that depending on the clicker.
Too bad it happened.
But anything mechanical will eventually fail.
The guy prob has target panic and by using that it helps him concentrate on the shot. ESP at deer. I'm sure that why he is using it.
I fell for ya fella. That is a bad break and can hurt your confidence ESP when dealing with the panic and shots at game if that's what you have. The panic. Ugh. :banghead:
QuoteOriginally posted by r-man:
hunted my whole life with a bow, never needed a clicker, and so I cant use that excuse.
Good for you. It must be nice knowing that you're better than everyone else.
X's 2 gringol!! I didn't realize that I was in the presence of "archery guru" such as r-man!!
Thanks to Passthru for an offline personal message that was positive and helpful. Most of you guys are telling me I should not use it but that is not really an option as I shoot MUCH MUCH better with the clicker on. If you guys do not need it and are perfect archers without it then I congratulate you all. I wish I were but I developed target panic about 15 years ago and it ended my archery for a long number of years out of frustration. I was a good shot but not consistent. Now I get to full draw and think it is the best device available if you have these "problems". This is the first time in 4 years I have ever had a problem - just happened at the wrong time. I remember the string getting caught on a limb the last time I left the woods and that is probably what tweaked the little metal piece. I will order a new one today and be back in business.
On a positive note - I am having the season of my life and have shot 3 other deer already and I attribute it all to having 2 great spots. I really love traditional archery and have been able to introduce 5 new traditional shooters to the sport in the last few years.
Cheers,
James
RedShaft - I wrote this before you replied but you are spot on. Thanks!
QuoteOriginally posted by cloudbaseracer:
RedShaft - I wrote this before you replied but you are spot on. Thanks!
I figured, I been down that ugly road and walked away from it and came back myself. It just gets to be too much a burden and you Get tired of struggling. It is hard to go through. Glad your back and shooting well. And congratulations on those 3 deer!
Only thing I can offer is, if the clicker is an important part of your setup, then you might consider checking it constantly to make sure it's still attached and operable. Might not hurt to practice draw a few times during each hunt to ensure you feel/hear the click. Best of luck to ya!
I feel you James. I won't shoot or hunt without my clicker. Call it a crutch if you like, but walk a mile my "target panic" boots before you choose to judge.
I just recently put a clicker on my longbows due to target panic. I can now shoot with a controlled and accurate positive outcome versus my quick snap shooting, out of control shot sequence which provided a lot of negative results on targets. Use what works and don't worry about what everyone thinks. You owe that to the animals in which you hunt and no one that posts here.
Ron
Well said, Ron! :thumbsup:
I've got a good friend who has used a clicker for YEARS because of target panic. He's the closest thing to an assassin with a bow I know. He's proved it can be very successful for hunting all over the world. I know he covers the metal with tape so it's more of a feel thing than a click noise. I've tried it and just couldn't get used to it. To each his own but if it works for you then by all means figure out why it failed and what it's going to require to fix it. Good luck.
Easy bud's, all of us. Nobody here is better than anybody else. We all have our styles and needs and wants and ways we do things.
On the other hand, if something doesn't work out and you post it up on the board, you'd better expect SOME others to think differently about it than you do.
Fix that thing and go get one. Its no big deal.
ChuckC
hate to hear that....but shouldnt reaching your face have been your second trigger? ;)
Noone is saying a clicker is not an effective tool, and yes, I have shot one know all about them. You are adding a mechanical device to the bow. That device failed you on a shot, happens to be a shot at a deer. I shoot with a psychotrigger, just not a gadget I have to add to the bow.
Congrats on the deer you have shot that is awesome. And if the device had not failed, then you probably would be posting up photos. Many tradtional archers got away from compounds for all of the things that could go wrong with screws, pins, rest, etc. Best of success on your future hunts.
Jeff
First off, the title of the thread is mis-leading. It wasn't the clicker failure that caused the miss, it was that the shooter missed the shot.
I've shot plenty of game with a clicker on my my bow as well as with no clicker on the bow. I have killed game drawing past the clicker and not reaching the clicker. The bottom line is every kill or miss has been my my fault and not that of an equipment error. I know that you can draw way past the "click" and still shoot accurately so overdrawing is not a reason for a miss....not nearly as bad as under-drawing!
For anyone to post here that hasn't dealt with target panic is not beneficial to anyone. If a clicker gets you to full draw and ethically hunting then it should be on the bow. The clicker in this instance got the shooter to full draw so even though it wasn't working it still did it's job.
As far as being overbent... I've had clickers that were repairable and some that were beyond repair. You can likely fix it and learn that it needs to be tended to once in position to hunt.
People commenting on the sound of a clicker clearly have no idea about them so disregard those comments. Actually...disregard everything people have to say in regards to this topic that can't admit they've dealt with the same issues. It would be like a non alcoholic at an AA meeting giving advice.... kinda worthless!
Other things to watch for with the clicker that I've experienced is it's performance in the cold. I've had it where without damage it won't "click" due to extreme cold.
Good luck with this in the future, I wish you the best with the TP, but until then click away..Ryan
I use a clicker a lot--never a problem hunting. Guys who don't need them don't understand. Check and see what may have gone wrong. I find that if I get my clicker quiet to the point I want, on cold mornings they get quieter or may not click at all--I use double sided tape on them to soften the click and it can get stiff on a colder morning. I have to adjust a bit when that happens.
sounds like a lot of experts on here ready to tell ya your using to many gadgets. soooo easy to shoot down the other guys ways. if he just came on and said he missed everyone would be supportive, but oh no he used a clicker that's too many gadgets.
laughable.
I used to use one so I understand, they certainly help with target panic. hope you can bounce back. I remember once mine failed, im guessing in similar fashion, when I was stump shooting. my bet is your miss was like mine that day, less failed clicker and more not picking a spot. I wouldn't worry about it, and get back on the horse and get out there. we all miss sometimes man, don't beat yourself up over it.
I'm sorry you had the issue but glad you are working it out.
Had I known about clickers around 1981 I would have avoided 15 years of ever increasing TP. My last season shooting with TP (right-handed) was 1995. I was about to drop out of archery that year after having been shooting since the mid-1960's.
Thank goodness God answers prayers!
My problem was solved by a hunch (Devine?) switch to LH (master eye anyway). I've been shooting without issues since 1996 LH. I don't have any TP issues these days because I know to focus on process instead of results.
However, I've considered adding a "cricket" clicker just to make sure I don't develop an issue. I wouldn't hesitate to use one for sure if I had a shooting problem.
I've seen some very fine fellows on the 3D range that were absolutely eaten up with TP. Some of these archers have given back and are giving back to archery far more than the accumulated efforts of hundreds of others. There are even well known archery instructors and accomplished target archers that are in-the-closet-TPers. They have a horrible time trying to shoot. Most of them can't get close to full draw. I feel for them.
This is an unusual thread. Had I jumped into the middle of the thread I might have thought I was on one of the other less civilized sites that aren't even worth posting on.
QuoteOriginally posted by r-man:
hunted my whole life with a bow, never needed a clicker, and so I cant use that excuse.
Same here. I get in my fair share of misses without one.
Seriously though, I used to be more of a gadget person and it ended up being a hindrance for me. Those people above that say the mechanical items you have the more things can go wrong must have been watching my hunts. The mechanical stuff just doesn't work for me. That being said, I have missed shots by accidentally bumping my bottom limb on something that would never happen with wheels or a recurve. It just goes to show that anything can go wrong no matter what you use.
What someone said above about if you are going to utilize equipment, make sure to constantly test it. I ran into a guy last week pig hunting that missed a 15 yard shot on a pig because his sight got bumped and he didn't get around to looking it over yet.
Ive been hunting with clickers on all my bows and its not cause I have to its because I choose too. Ive hunted in nasty thick brush chasing rabbits and never got hung up. You should be able to tell when the clicker blade is wearing out. Sounds like you got excited and over drew which you wouldnt have known without a clicker. Just change the blade and go redeem yourself.
QuoteOriginally posted by Manitoba Stickflinger:
Actually...disregard everything people have to say in regards to this topic that can't admit they've dealt with the same issues. It would be like a non alcoholic at an AA meeting giving advice.... kinda worthless!
Bingo. I fought TP for years and used a clicker for a while. I was able to break myself from it for now..... I know it come back.
If the clicker is what you need, go for it!