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Title: fletch tape ?
Post by: jimneye on October 16, 2013, 10:32:00 PM
Could someone please tell me their method,in great detail, on the proper application of fletch tape.
Title: Re: fletch tape ?
Post by: Biathlonman on October 16, 2013, 10:34:00 PM
I think you're over thinking it.  I just clamp feather in jig clamp.  Roll tape on to bottom of feather and cut at end.  Peel red backing off and apply to jig like normal.  I very rarely even prep shafts and have yet to have a feather fall off.
Title: Re: fletch tape ?
Post by: dhermon85 on October 16, 2013, 10:38:00 PM
Do you have good luck with tape on wraps? Never tried?
Title: Re: fletch tape ?
Post by: jimneye on October 16, 2013, 10:47:00 PM
Is it possible that the tape I have is past its shelf life?  It doesn't seem to be very sticky.
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Post by: Mike Mecredy on October 16, 2013, 11:09:00 PM
My Method, is I try using fletch tape, I have a nervous breakdown at the failure of using fletch tape, recover, go to therapy, then use duco cement.

That's the best detail I can give you.

Actually it's not bad, I just have a hard time getting the backing off.  There's no backing to peel off with duco.
Title: Re: fletch tape ?
Post by: TaterHill Archer on October 16, 2013, 11:23:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by jimneye:
Is it possible that the tape I have is past its shelf life?  It doesn't seem to be very sticky.
Yes.  I've used fletch tape for quite a while.  It definitely has a shelf life and you need to keep it sealed.  I've had way too many feathers come off lately.  Pressure from other feathers in the quiver caused several of my feathers and my son's feathers to come off.  I am now using loc tite super glue.  I won't go back to tape.
Title: Re: fletch tape ?
Post by: bearsfeet on October 16, 2013, 11:30:00 PM
On aluminum I love it! I just did a few yesterday. I hunted with arrows that were fletch tapped last winter and they held fine in bad cold rainy weather. The only time I have seen issues is in the heat of early season. If you put a light dab of glue on the front and rear of the feather afterwards they are solid and obviously extremely fast to put together.

How old is ur tape if its not sticking?
Title: Re: fletch tape ?
Post by: longbow565 on October 17, 2013, 12:18:00 AM
I tried the tape for a couple years and went to fast setting super glue over a clear wrap and never looked back.
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Post by: Bear Heart on October 17, 2013, 12:27:00 AM
I use tape with a dab of fletchtite on the ends. I apply it to all my feathers first leaving the red backing on. I prep the shafts with 99% isopropyl alcohol on a cotton ball. Peel and apply like normal.  I take the clamp off and run my fingernail down the spine to ensure contact. I shoot cx heritage 250 shafts.
Title: Re: fletch tape ?
Post by: Steelhead on October 17, 2013, 01:52:00 AM
It is possible your tape is past its shelf life and probably is if your having adhesion issues.

These fletch tape threads have come up many times before.Some love it and some dont.

I have used it for at least 10 years and it has served me very well.Its about all I have used on dozens and dozens of arrows.Very simple and fast is why I like it.

Fresher tape works great.Doesnt have to be brand new or anything like that.Not so fresh and it does not work as well.I Could not tell you about exact shelf life.I store mine in the fridge in a ziplock.Doesnt seem to breakdown stored like that.

Press down on the quill the entire length with good pressure.Apply extra pressure at the front and rear after arrow is fletched a few times.I just use my finger.
Title: Re: fletch tape ?
Post by: sweet old bill on October 17, 2013, 04:54:00 AM
I went 100% to fletching with it in my bow shop about 10 years ago. I do have a simple process and that is:
1. clean shafts with soap and air dry.
2. roll on arrow wraps if ordered
3. put on fletch tape on feather, cut to length of feather.
4. scrap with sharp razor to lift the pink backing on fletch tape.
5. apply the fletcher to arrow shaft
6. lift fletcher off arrow, take arrow from fletcher
7. I run my nail down the side of the feather to make sure the tape has full contact with the arrow shaft.
8. I then put a drop of glue on the front and back of the feather.

I have arrow left in the snow and found in the spring and still had the feather on the arrow. It does take time to get in the swing of handling the tape.
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Post by: sweet old bill on October 17, 2013, 04:56:00 AM
one other thing I keep the fletch tape in the old ice box and this extends the shelf life of the tape.
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Post by: ChuckC on October 17, 2013, 09:33:00 AM
I was told all tape products have "shelf lives". The adhesives just don't last forever in that state.

ChuckC
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Post by: LookMomNoSights on October 17, 2013, 10:04:00 AM
Make sure shafting/wrap surface is CLEAN!!!
Unpackage tape
carefully apply to fletch
trim any overhang with very sharp scissors
use razor tip or something fine and sharp to lift backing,  as not to touch it with your hands (skin oils)
put fletch in clamp and set in jid on arrow,  making sure you have full contact to shaft.
Apply some light pressure to seat fletch.
Continue for the rest of fletching.
Realize its not anywhere as good as glue,  locate remainder of roll,   place in trash recepticle.
Title: Re: fletch tape ?
Post by: SlowBowinMO on October 17, 2013, 10:33:00 AM
We have a helpful video on the bottom of this page of our website.  Here's a link to the page, I don't know how to post the video here.

 LINK - "Feathers and More" webpage at Braveheart Archery (http://www.braveheartarchery.us/feathers_and_more.htm)
Title: Re: fletch tape ?
Post by: frankwright on October 17, 2013, 10:38:00 AM
I have not used anything but tape for the last six or seven years, wood, carbon, aluminum, wrapped and unwrapped and never had a problem.

I do exactly like sweet old bill except I give the shafts a quick wipe with denatured alcohol instead of the soap and water.

I do believe the glue gets old and I buy a new roll if the old one is more than two years old.
Title: Re: fletch tape ?
Post by: ranger 3 on October 17, 2013, 10:43:00 AM
I don't use tape anymore because if you lay your arroe down on a flat surface for any length of time the feather will slide around and flatten out.
Title: Re: fletch tape ?
Post by: riverrat 2 on October 17, 2013, 11:19:00 AM
Heat is the only issue I've ever had with it. In the hot summer,the feathers can change position with,or without glued ends. The heat lets the tape get a bit gooey. Short of that,I liked the tape. It is fast to fletch with for certain. rat'
Title: Re: fletch tape ?
Post by: billy shipp on October 17, 2013, 02:33:00 PM
I've used it for years with good success.

I've used it on wood, aluminum, carbon and on wraps without problems.

The surface must be clean to start with. Put the feather in the jig. Lay the tape on the quill straight, press it down good, snip tape with scissors. I use a long, sharp, HAT PIN to lift the end of the tape backing, then lay the jig on to the shaft, remove jig, run my thumb nail down the footing on the quill to insure a good bond, then using pressure, press down on the feather from end to end. After all fletchings are on the shaft, I put a dab of glue on each end of all feathers.
It gets pretty hot in Texas during the summer and I haven't had a feather come loose yet.
Last week I built a dozen wood arrows. The tape I used was at least 2 years old. In my experience, shelf life isn't a problem with fletch tape.
Title: Re: fletch tape ?
Post by: lt-m-grow on October 17, 2013, 05:17:00 PM
Seems your question starts with frustration...

If that is the case, do some searching on here.  I think you will find two distinct opinions on this stuff...best or worst stuff ever.  It is very odd.  And those opinions come from good people.   BTW  I am in the latter, but others seem to love it.

I offer this not to bash the stuff, but in the event you are frustrated because you cannot get it to work, I wanted you to read many smart and varying opinions to aid your decision on  the need to buy newer stuff, different cleaner, etc.

Been there done that and thought it was me until I did more research.  Again opinions vary.  I am just trying to offer that more research may be cheaper for you.

I use gorilla super glue and will not switch again unless they someday change the formula.  No directions necessary :-)
Title: Re: fletch tape ?
Post by: Benjy on October 17, 2013, 05:39:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by TaterHill Archer:
 
QuoteOriginally posted by jimneye:
Is it possible that the tape I have is past its shelf life?  It doesn't seem to be very sticky.
Yes.  I've used fletch tape for quite a while.  It definitely has a shelf life and you need to keep it sealed.  I've had way too many feathers come off lately.  Pressure from other feathers in the quiver caused several of my feathers and my son's feathers to come off.  I am now using loc tite super glue.  I won't go back to tape. [/b]
I am having this same problem. I have been an advocate for tape for a long time. If this stuff has a shelf life then they should stamp the date on the wrapper. I just finished some arrows and I have some fletching coming off already... (I am not sure how old my roll of tape is  :knothead:  )

Benjy
Title: Re: fletch tape ?
Post by: Wetfeet on October 17, 2013, 05:56:00 PM
They work great as long as you prep the shaft, I almost swore them off after they fell off my wrapped aluminum and bare carbs. I assumed that the wraps out of the packaging would be clean.  Then I tried with bare alum cleaned with acetone and they now hold up great. I am going to try them with wood over poly and see how they do. BTW I have had the tape out in the open for years and its still sticky. But now you guys have me paranoid and will have to deploy a ziplock on them.

I wouldn't use them on carbs if I still shot that stuff, I would think that on a porous surface like carbon the glue would penetrate and create a better bond. Especially here in WI where your arrows can go through a freeze/thaw environment  hundreds of times thoughout their life cycle.
Title: Re: fletch tape ?
Post by: jimneye on October 17, 2013, 08:10:00 PM
Thanks too everyone.  I think my tape has been laying around open for over 3 years. Time for a new roll. It really is fast and clean (no glue mess) and I've never been one to give up too easily.  I think too many people like it for it not to be a useful method. Gonna get a fresh roll and some gorilla glue gel(just in case). Thanks again
Title: Re: fletch tape ?
Post by: Cootling on October 17, 2013, 09:16:00 PM
Used it for awhile and it was okay, but it creeps under pressure for the same reason it works (the adhesive doesn't harden fully).  I use impact-resistant super glue gel now.  Much better!
Title: Re: fletch tape ?
Post by: TaterHill Archer on October 17, 2013, 09:31:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Benjy:
 
QuoteOriginally posted by TaterHill Archer:
 
QuoteOriginally posted by jimneye:
Is it possible that the tape I have is past its shelf life?  It doesn't seem to be very sticky.
Yes.  I've used fletch tape for quite a while.  It definitely has a shelf life and you need to keep it sealed.  I've had way too many feathers come off lately.  Pressure from other feathers in the quiver caused several of my feathers and my son's feathers to come off.  I am now using loc tite super glue.  I won't go back to tape. [/b]
I am having this same problem. I have been an advocate for tape for a long time. If this stuff has a shelf life then they should stamp the date on the wrapper. I just finished some arrows and I have some fletching coming off already... (I am not sure how old my roll of tape is   :knothead:   )

Benjy [/b]
I was an advocate for a long time too.  I've cleaned the wraps.  I've used a drop of glue on each end. Doesn't matter.  It's not 100%.  It's somewhere around 50% come loose somewhere.  Most of the time it's so bad they have to be completely redone.  Not so with Loctite super glue so far.
Title: Re: fletch tape ?
Post by: DanielB89 on October 18, 2013, 12:41:00 AM
I do an unconventional method of applying my tape. I never like rolling out the length of the tape and trying to stick it perfectly so what I do it keep the tape on the roll, peel the outer layer or tape off, press it up against my feather(already in jig) and roll the tape on. When I'm done, cut it where you want it'll stop. Afterwards. I put glue on the front of my feather.

I have had good and bad results with the tape. But I think it has to do with experience of using the tape. I let each feather set a couple minutes even though its instant.