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Title: "Dad's Bow"
Post by: 2treks on September 28, 2013, 03:13:00 PM
One of the things that I enjoy so much about traditional archery is, well, the tradition.
Like many of you, I fall back in time when I hunt or even just shoot my longbow or recurve. I think about the way things used to be, and how much I try to avoid the way things are today. I just like old stuff and old ways. Sure, I get caught up in some modern things once in awhile, but I like old things and old ways.
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Post by: 2treks on September 28, 2013, 03:19:00 PM
I like to talk to and hang around guys that are kinda the same way as me. since I started vending at the archery events years ago, I have met some wonderful people from around the country. I have shared a camp with a few of them and I count many that I would like to share a fire with.
I get a lot of enjoyment out of hearing from folks that have a good story to tell.
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Post by: magnus on September 28, 2013, 03:37:00 PM
I can relate Chuck. Just finishing up my first stone tipped arrow. Makes me think of how many thousands had been made over the centuries just like it. Every bow I shoot takes me back to a different era. From the selfbow style of early America's to my "Dads bow " of the early 70's. They definitely do take you back in time.
Title: Re: "Dad's Bow"
Post by: 2treks on September 28, 2013, 05:07:00 PM
When I started as a member and then sponsor on Trad Gang, I was exposed to many more people that I may have never crossed paths with otherwise. Many of these fine folks have become people that I can and will share emails, PM's or phone calls with several times a year. As if we are old friends, even though we have only been introduced through the common interest of bow hunting and more over, Traditional Bow hunting.
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Post by: JAG on September 28, 2013, 05:26:00 PM
Matt, ya really gonna hunt with that ole chunk of chipped up rock?
Good luck, and don't forget PICTURES!
Jonhhy/JAG
The only thing I hate about the trip, is that I have to come back to the present time!
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Post by: Steve O on September 28, 2013, 05:40:00 PM
Chuck, you give more than you get for sure. I am looking forward to where this goes. I have two physical possessions to remember my Grandfather by; a 1949 Grizzly wallhanger and a 1968 Kodiak, that someday when I find a place I can hunt all the time will spend many a sits with me.

I think I am going to deeply enjoy this thread.
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Post by: Pat B. on September 28, 2013, 05:44:00 PM
I'm with you here ------
Title: Re: "Dad's Bow"
Post by: 2treks on September 28, 2013, 07:23:00 PM
I have always liked to talk to those that have come before me, My peers, and more so my elders.

I enjoy the fact that people have great history behind them. Some have been at this game a long time and have many tales to tell. The ones I really like, they think that the past they share is just everyday stuff, "nothing to look at here folks".
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Post by: Cyclic-Rivers on September 28, 2013, 10:15:00 PM
I hear ya Chuck!  :readit:
Title: Re: "Dad's Bow"
Post by: SELFBOW19953 on September 29, 2013, 02:45:00 PM
I hope I'm not hijacking Chuck's thread.

The 6 month wait for my new Two Tracks Echo, named "Dad's Bow", has been excruciating and seemed like it would go on forever-not a complaint, just anxious. Forever ends soon as Chuck just told me that I have a bow on the way. I'll tell you how "Dad's Bow" came to be, short story long.  During World War 2 my father was in the civil service as a machinist on B-17s stationed at Hendrix Field in Sebring, Florida.  After the war, he was released from the civil service and worked as a gunsmith for a while. In 1946 or 47, he went to visit relatives in Newfield, NY where he cut down a walnut tree and had it cut into 3" planks and shipped to Florida to be used for gun stocks.  He only cut about a dozen stock blanks from the walnut and another 4 or 5 from birdseye maple-the rest of the walnut was left to air dry in my grandfather's garage.  The first 10 years of my life, my family (parents, 2 older sisters, and later a younger sister) lived in a 25' travel trailer.  My parents (and then baby sister) slept in the bedroom.  The other 3 of us slept in the front room, the 2 older girls slept on a sofa bed.  My bed was a blanket laid over a bunch of gunstock blanks between the sofa bed and the front of the trailer, my bed for about 8 years until we bought a house in 1962.  

I was talking to Chuck about making me an Echo and when he asked about the limb cores, I said bamboo, unless he thought another wood might be better (it's his design, he should know).  He asked what I thought about walnut, the light bulb came on.  I told Chuck the story about the stock blanks and he said "we can do this"-Dad's Bow was born.  I sent Chuck some of the 65 year old air dried walnut for the limbs (a stock wasn't long enough for a limb core) and a chunk of birdseye maple from one of the stocks for the riser.  My father never shot a bow, and didn't think much of hunting with a bow, but, my new bow wouldn't be here if it weren't for him.  Chuck asked me a few days ago did I want to name the bow or want him to name it, I said "Dad's Bow".  I now have a bow made from wood my father cut 65 years ago, hence the dedication.  It's as close as I'll get to hunting with my father again, after too many years.

I'll post pictures once I get my grub paws on Dad's Bow.
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Post by: MCNSC on September 29, 2013, 02:50:00 PM
Great story, thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: "Dad's Bow"
Post by: 2treks on September 29, 2013, 04:02:00 PM
Wheew!
You just saved me 2-3 more days of writing Phil.
I will cut to the chase.
When I became a sponsor on Trad Gang, Phil was one of the first guys to contact me. We talked for a while that day and many days since. When will contact each other during season and see how each is doing.
When Phil told me about the old lumber from his father and I told him "You got to get me some for your bow". He did and this is the result.
Title: Re: "Dad's Bow"
Post by: 2treks on September 29, 2013, 04:07:00 PM
This is how the lumber arrived to me in Michigan.

 (http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt12/twotracks/P1030764_zps4860f8aa.jpg) (http://s593.photobucket.com/user/twotracks/media/P1030764_zps4860f8aa.jpg.html)
Title: Re: "Dad's Bow"
Post by: 2treks on September 29, 2013, 04:36:00 PM
Cleaning up the wood,
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Title: Re: "Dad's Bow"
Post by: bisket on September 29, 2013, 08:35:00 PM
I will be following this one also...love this stuff.  

..to hear from a fellow member about the chance to hold in his hands a piece of wood with a story that brings back part of a relationship that has such special meaning.  "DAD'S BOW"  I can't imagine the pride you will have with it.  

-Mark
Title: Re: "Dad's Bow"
Post by: 2treks on September 29, 2013, 09:11:00 PM
Once I had the blanks cleaned up and square, I needed to adjust the cut so I could have some perfect edge grained laminations.
Lots of exposed blade here, WATCH YOUR FINGERS!

 (http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt12/twotracks/P1030771_zpsb5aa0ab5.jpg) (http://s593.photobucket.com/user/twotracks/media/P1030771_zpsb5aa0ab5.jpg.html)
Title: Re: "Dad's Bow"
Post by: 2treks on September 29, 2013, 09:11:00 PM
  (http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt12/twotracks/P1030772_zpsbc905552.jpg) (http://s593.photobucket.com/user/twotracks/media/P1030772_zpsbc905552.jpg.html)

 (http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt12/twotracks/P1030766_zps16b66a4f.jpg) (http://s593.photobucket.com/user/twotracks/media/P1030766_zps16b66a4f.jpg.html)
Title: Re: "Dad's Bow"
Post by: 2treks on September 29, 2013, 09:14:00 PM
Riser wood preped and processing.

 (http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt12/twotracks/P1030769_zps06ce411b.jpg) (http://s593.photobucket.com/user/twotracks/media/P1030769_zps06ce411b.jpg.html)

 (http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt12/twotracks/P1030768_zps0514de4b.jpg) (http://s593.photobucket.com/user/twotracks/media/P1030768_zps0514de4b.jpg.html)
Title: Re: "Dad's Bow"
Post by: 2treks on September 29, 2013, 09:30:00 PM
Ready to grind and shape. Getting ready for glue up.

 (http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt12/twotracks/P1030773_zps70712409.jpg) (http://s593.photobucket.com/user/twotracks/media/P1030773_zps70712409.jpg.html)

 (http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt12/twotracks/P1030774_zpsb7aabc80.jpg) (http://s593.photobucket.com/user/twotracks/media/P1030774_zpsb7aabc80.jpg.html)
Title: Re: "Dad's Bow"
Post by: 2treks on September 29, 2013, 09:36:00 PM
I didn't get the pics from here to finish, I got to working and forgot about the camera. I need to work on my Build along technique. Sorry.

We will need to wait a few days for Phil to get the bow to see the finished goods.
I had such a great time building this bow and I sure hope it everything Phil wants it to be. He has been a good guy to get to know over the past few years and I feel blessed to be a part of this story. Thank you Phil.
Title: Re: "Dad's Bow"
Post by: Thumper Dunker on September 30, 2013, 12:11:00 AM
This is cool stuff. Can tell already that's going to be a good looking bow. Good story also.
Title: Re: "Dad's Bow"
Post by: Pat B. on September 30, 2013, 11:15:00 AM
Very nice Chuck..

Can't wait to see the finished bow.
You do really nice work.
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Post by: wooddamon1 on September 30, 2013, 02:05:00 PM
Gotta see this bow, good story! Love the old stuff myself.
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Post by: Ricker on October 01, 2013, 09:46:00 AM
Very cool story.  A family heirloom has been born.
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Post by: Butch Speer on October 01, 2013, 09:55:00 AM
Great story! Can't wait to see the pics.
Title: Re: "Dad's Bow"
Post by: SELFBOW19953 on October 01, 2013, 10:04:00 AM
IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE!!!!!!  My new Echo, Dad's Bow, is here!!  What a gorgeous bow!!  Chuck, it is perfection, exactly what I had envisioned!!  Thank you so very much for what will be an heirloom in my family.  Sorry for hijacking your thread.

Chuck did an unbelievable job on this bow.  It is very simple, understated, and elegant.  It is absolutely stunning.  I have been practicing with and planning to hunt with my Two Tracks Longwalker.  Not anymore.  Out of the tube, I shot my Echo like I'd been shooting it for years.  Even without the supplied Two Tracks string silencers, it is the ultimate in quiet, and light as a feather.  I've only got to shoot it maybe a dozen times (I'm doing housework while the boss lady cleans the barn, company coming today), all wandering through the yard with a judo point.  I'm good out to 25 yards.  

66" 56@28, black walnut limbs under brown glass, birdseye maple riser with brown leather grip.  I have fairly big hands but love a small grip.  Chuck nailed it, the grip just melts in my hand.

   (http://i509.photobucket.com/albums/s331/selfbow19953/DADs%20BOW/DadsBow-8.jpg) (http://s509.photobucket.com/user/selfbow19953/media/DADs%20BOW/DadsBow-8.jpg.html)
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   (http://i509.photobucket.com/albums/s331/selfbow19953/DADs%20BOW/DadsBow-2.jpg) (http://s509.photobucket.com/user/selfbow19953/media/DADs%20BOW/DadsBow-2.jpg.html)
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   (http://i509.photobucket.com/albums/s331/selfbow19953/DADs%20BOW/DadsBow-7.jpg) (http://s509.photobucket.com/user/selfbow19953/media/DADs%20BOW/DadsBow-7.jpg.html)
   (http://i509.photobucket.com/albums/s331/selfbow19953/DADs%20BOW/DadsBow-12.jpg) (http://s509.photobucket.com/user/selfbow19953/media/DADs%20BOW/DadsBow-12.jpg.html)
   (http://i509.photobucket.com/albums/s331/selfbow19953/DADs%20BOW/DadsBow-5.jpg) (http://s509.photobucket.com/user/selfbow19953/media/DADs%20BOW/DadsBow-5.jpg.html)
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Title: Re: "Dad's Bow"
Post by: Trad Timmy on October 01, 2013, 10:30:00 AM
Seriously impressed.
Title: Re: "Dad's Bow"
Post by: Hopewell Tom on October 01, 2013, 11:28:00 AM
Love that Bird's Eye! Your Dad had some fine taste in wood. You share that good taste in bows.

Very Nice. Good on both of you.
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Post by: Ricker on October 01, 2013, 11:29:00 AM
Man o man.  That looks fantastic.  To know the history of the woods used makes it even more beautiful to look at.
I'm very happy for you.
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Post by: Whip on October 01, 2013, 06:54:00 PM
That is about as special as it gets for a bow!  Great job on both of you!
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Post by: Butch Speer on October 01, 2013, 07:55:00 PM
That is indeed a very good looking bow! I'm sure it will be a treasure for you.

Chuck, good job!
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Post by: Steve O on October 01, 2013, 09:38:00 PM
Phil, I hope you put that special bow to good use and have someone in mind for when you are done that will appreciate it!

Very special.
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Post by: Pat B. on October 02, 2013, 09:42:00 AM
Chuck does beautiful work !!!

Congrats on a wonderful bow.
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Post by: Longbow917 on October 02, 2013, 10:47:00 PM
That is a SWEET looking bow...WOW!!!
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Post by: danbow on October 03, 2013, 06:46:00 AM
Nice Bow, Great story! I'm sure there are many more memories in store from that Bow!
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Post by: 2treks on October 06, 2013, 06:36:00 PM
Phil, I just got in from some deer hunting at a friends camp in Northern MI. No deer taken but plenty were seen along with Bear, Coyote, Turkey, Porkie's and plenty more. Great time spent with great friends.
I am so happy you are pleased with the bow. This has been one of my favorite builds to date and to know the bow fits and is appreciated is just icing.
Give a call this week sometime and lets chat. Enjoy your bow.
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