I thought my long wait for a traditional deer was over this morning, this is the first year that I have gone totally traditional, in years past I have hunted half the season with a recurve and the last half with my compound and it seems like I always got my shot opportunity later in the season with the compound but this year I'm going to get one with the recurve. Anyway, the morning started out great with lots of deer around my stand but they were all doe with fawns, at 7:30 a lone doe came by with no fawns with her and I decided to take a shot when she came into range, at 12 yards she stopped slightly quartering away which was a perfect shot opportunity so I drew and released, she ducked a little and I hit her about 4 inches below the spine and about the same distance behind her front shoulder. I knew the shot was a little high but I was pretty sure it was a fatal hit, my arrow penetrated to the fletching which gave me 2 holes which I also thought was a good sign. I watched her run out of sight and waited an hour before I came down out of my ladderstand and started tracking, the blood trail wasn't the greatest when it started but got better as I followed it, I tracked her almost 200 yards off of our farm and onto the state ground that borders our property on one side, I wasn't on the state ground that long when I came upon a gentleman with the deer I had shot, he had finished her off with his compound bow and was gutting her when I came up to him, we chatted for a couple of minutes and he asked how long I had been tracking her and I told him, he then asked if which one of us should take the deer, I said since you made the finishing shot that you can have her, he agreed and we looked at the lungs in the gut pile to see what my arrow hit, only the top of one of the lungs had a slit in it so who knows how long she would have went if he wouldn't have shot her. We chatted for a few more minutes and I offered to help him drag the deer to our property and I went and got my truck and we loaded it and took it to his truck.
I was a little disappointed but happy to see that the deer was harvested, made a new friend in the process and got an invite to hunt with him in PA on his property if I ever wanted to. Maybe next time, if only the shot was a little lower I would be showing pics of my first traditional deer.
Rodney
Hey Rodney. What an EXCELLENT interaction with another hunter. WELL DONE! Looking at the positives, a wounded deer accounted for, is absolutely the right mind set. Here's hoping your sportsmanship is rewarded 10 times over. Jim
While it would have been great to get your 1st, I'm glad this turned out the way it did. The deer was finished quickly and you had a positive encounter.
I try to stare a hole in the top of the heart on my shots to prevent high shots.
A very accomplished recurve shooter (record holder in multiple states) who also shoots compounds explained why a lot of folks shoot high with recurves.
If you are accustomed to compounds with sights and you go to a recurve without sights, you see the point of the arrow and may be pointing the arrow (like a sight) at the center of the kill. At 20 yards and under that will result in a high shot (unless your arrow is a few inches too long or your bow is incredibly slow). My bow/arrow combination for example is point-on at 35 yards.
Rodney, great encounter, a positive example for everyone, good luck the rest of the season.
Great story Rodney, many years ago I had a hunting partner. We built a shooting platform to practice from. We shot all the time out to 35 yards. We would shoot leaves,cans, golf balls,etc. When I get up in a tree, my site picture is different but comfortable. I am much more accurate from a elevated stand because of those earlier years.
Sometimes a scripted encounter has not the ending we desire, but a good story has a good ending. This was a good story of your almost first trad deer. Congrats on how you handled it.
I have a feeling the next one is close at hand.
QuoteOriginally posted by Bud B.:
Sometimes a scripted encounter has not the ending we desire, but a good story has a good ending. This was a good story of your almost first trad deer. Congrats on how you handled it.
I have a feeling the next one is close at hand.
I could not have wrote it out better......so I won't!
Good luck on getting your first!
Bisch
Great responce to a difficult situation,congrats. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
One question, why not shoot one of the does with fawns or better yet one of the fawns?? Shawn
Well handled. Next time I'm sure you'll drop it within sight of your stand.
QuoteOriginally posted by achigan:
Hey Rodney. What an EXCELLENT interaction with another hunter. WELL DONE! Looking at the positives, a wounded deer accounted for, is absolutely the right mind set. Here's hoping your sportsmanship is rewarded 10 times over. Jim
X2! :thumbsup:
Great job! You absolutely did the right thing. That is a tough thing to do but the important thing is that the deer was recovered. You will get another chance so just keep at it! :clapper:
Excellent ethics story! You'll be rewarded for that I'm sure!
Just curious, did the other hunter shoot the deer running, walking, standing or lying down? Technically the first mortal wound with an arrow gets to claim an archery deer, at least that is what we used to teach in NFAA bowhunter education classes in the 70s. A hit in the lungs would prove fatal over time. Just the opposite of the unwritten rifle law.
But you guys worked it out and you have a new friend and maybe a new place to hunt. Congratulations.
You represented us and yourself well.... thank you!!
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God bless,Mudd :archer:
You handled this situation with true sportsmanship. I hope you are greatly rewarded for your decision this season.
QuoteOriginally posted by Bisch:
QuoteOriginally posted by Bud B.:
Sometimes a scripted encounter has not the ending we desire, but a good story has a good ending. This was a good story of your almost first trad deer. Congrats on how you handled it.
I have a feeling the next one is close at hand.
I could not have wrote it out better......so I won't!
Good luck on getting your first!
Bisch [/b]
x2
Not sure if I would have handled as well. I like to think I would, but I guess you never know until the situation arises. Here's hoping karma's looking out for you down the road. :clapper:
So either this guy shot your deer immediately after you did, and waited a while to let it die, climbed fown from his stand, and already started gutting before you got to her,which is possible, or a staggering dying deer walked or fell in front of him, and he put an arrow in it to claim it. Not sure what the other guys motives were, but if I get a good lung shot on a deer, it's mine. The guide who finishes off a dying animal for a client, doesn't get to keep it, and neither should this guy have.
A one lunged deer can go a long ways, yours already travelled 200 yards.
Its unfortunate the way it all turned out, but I want to thank you for conducting yourself in a true sportsmans manner and positively reflecting others in our sport.
It sounds like the encounter went from a potentially bad situation to a as good as it can get. You may have made a good hunting companion and perhaps gained access to great property to hunt in PA.
My hats off to you :clapper:
:thumbsup: well done!
Good story and better ending. Very commendable.
Well done, a true sportsman!
Rodney you handled the situation perfectly IMO and the best thing was you are not feeling aweful about not finding a wounded deer. You made a friend and gained a hunting spot. Your first deer will be even better. I hope I represent traditional archery as classy as you did if the situation arises.
I am impressed, you handled it in absolutely the right way. Good on you and your time will come.
Thank you to all that responded.
Shawn, the reason I didn't shoot the doe w fawns or one of the fawns is that they still had some of their spots. I have no problem with people shooting whatever they choose, but on this day I wasn't shooting a doe with fawns or one of the fawns.
Skunkhound, I never asked the guy what shape the deer was in when it came by him, for all I know the deer could have died in front of him and he stuck another arrow in it. Who knows, he seemed pretty excited about getting to take the deer home with him and in my opinion, its not worth getting in an argument over a deer. Others may feel different and I respect your opinions on the matter.
Hopefully things will turn out differently next time.
Rodney
Well Rodney, you're a good sport and a gentleman. I hope your patience and understanding are awarded accordingly.
David
Great story with a great outcome regardless. Way to enjoy the hunting experience
Nicely done! May your next shot bring the frothy red stuff....
Kingsnake
Good job! You'll get your deer, I'm sure of it. In the mean time, good sportsmanship spreads good will.
Thanks for the story.
JW
You handled a tough situation with an ethical approach and it will be rewarded. The important thing is that the deer was recovered and your first will be that much more memorable. Good job.
QuoteOriginally posted by Bowwild:
I try to stare a hole in the top of the heart on my shots to prevent high shots.
A very accomplished recurve shooter (record holder in multiple states) who also shoots compounds explained why a lot of folks shoot high with recurves.
If you are accustomed to compounds with sights and you go to a recurve without sights, you see the point of the arrow and may be pointing the arrow (like a sight) at the center of the kill. At 20 yards and under that will result in a high shot (unless your arrow is a few inches too long or your bow is incredibly slow). My bow/arrow combination for example is point-on at 35 yards.
thanks for sharing this! i was having this issue just the other day. still getting used to my new RER Retro, and the thing is so fast, and hits with such authority, that i was thinking it was a speed issue rather than an aiming issue. this clears things up considerably, and confirms why i have been hitting high at under 20 yards, but not from farther out.