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Title: Simmons and Ace vs. phonebook**Updated angled shot with ribs!**
Post by: Rob W. on September 13, 2013, 06:53:00 PM
First off I am in no way shape or form scientific about anything including this test. I'm just bored and I always like to see how my setups penetrate against each other.

This is a Simmons safari with 100gr. steel mounted on a 30" CE heritage 250 shaft. Bow is a Martin Hunter 55#@28" I draw to 29".

The first shot hit an area that was shot out behind it in my bag target. The second had target behind it and probably wasn't as hair popping sharp the second time around.  

    (http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee391/rjwalton8/20130913_182512.jpg) (http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/rjwalton8/media/20130913_182512.jpg.html)

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Title: Re: Simmons and Ace vs. phonebook**Updated angled shot with ribs!**
Post by: Bud B. on September 13, 2013, 06:54:00 PM
That head just looks wicked on the end of that arrow!!!
Title: Re: Simmons and Ace vs. phonebook**Updated angled shot with ribs!**
Post by: nineworlds9 on September 13, 2013, 07:04:00 PM
The gun guys have stuffed animals, we've got phone books!  Reach out and touch someone!  (A deer, LoL)
Title: Re: Simmons and Ace vs. phonebook**Updated angled shot with ribs!**
Post by: Friend on September 13, 2013, 07:07:00 PM
Cool...
Title: Re: Simmons and Ace vs. phonebook**Updated angled shot with ribs!**
Post by: TooManyHobbies on September 13, 2013, 07:13:00 PM
Since you're bored, can you get a 45* angle shot in. Someone posted about the simmons hitting at an angle with hardly any penetration. Just wondering if an angle will also blow through a phone book.
Title: Re: Simmons and Ace vs. phonebook**Updated angled shot with ribs!**
Post by: Rob W. on September 13, 2013, 07:24:00 PM
After posting I remembered I had some Ace Express's mounted up that I was going to try out this year and some old Hi-precisions. I could only get the tip of the 3bld to penetrate. The Ace heads did great though.

At this point the phonebook is a bit shot up and my wife won't give me another. I shot the Ace 5 times hitting different areas each time and they all looked like this.

 (http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee391/rjwalton8/20130913_191137.jpg) (http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/rjwalton8/media/20130913_191137.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Simmons and Ace vs. phonebook**Updated angled shot with ribs!**
Post by: Caughtandhobble on September 13, 2013, 07:25:00 PM
I'll do my part to keep them in business. I love the Simmons Broadheads. Thanks for sharing your results with us.
Title: Re: Simmons and Ace vs. phonebook**Updated angled shot with ribs!**
Post by: maineac on September 13, 2013, 07:40:00 PM
Fun test.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Simmons and Ace vs. phonebook**Updated angled shot with ribs!**
Post by: Rob W. on September 13, 2013, 07:46:00 PM
Twomanyhobbies, I would try but I'm shooting in the basement tonight. Might get another book and update tomorrow.
Title: Re: Simmons and Ace vs. phonebook**Updated angled shot with ribs!**
Post by: The Night Stalker on September 13, 2013, 08:27:00 PM
Yep, I would like to see that. I am shooting the tiger sharks this year.
Title: Re: Simmons and Ace vs. phonebook**Updated angled shot with ribs!**
Post by: bolong on September 13, 2013, 08:43:00 PM
I like them, killed a hog yesterday morning with an old 47 lb. Pearson Raider and Tiger Shark, passthrough went about 60 yards.
Title: Re: Simmons and Ace vs. phonebook**Updated angled shot with ribs!**
Post by: Stump73 on September 13, 2013, 11:10:00 PM
That is awesome Rob! I wander what heads would do with phone book from a big city like New York? Those Simmons are bad to the bone.
Title: Re: Simmons and Ace vs. phonebook**Updated angled shot with ribs!**
Post by: LB_hntr on September 14, 2013, 01:14:00 AM
no doubt about it those simmons are awesome heads. I also think they are the best looking head out there (not that it matters what they look like).
I keep telling myself when I finally shoot up the 50 or so magnus heads I still have in packages im going to try those simmons!
Title: Re: Simmons and Ace vs. phonebook**Updated angled shot with ribs!**
Post by: ISP 5353 on September 14, 2013, 08:52:00 AM
Very cool Rob.  Thanks for posting this!
Title: Re: Simmons and Ace vs. phonebook**Updated angled shot with ribs!**
Post by: Gator1 on September 14, 2013, 09:22:00 AM
Thanks for the post/pics... Those heads do look awesome.

I may have to get the new file from Ron, and try a half dozen out.
Title: Re: Simmons and Ace vs. phonebook**Updated angled shot with ribs!**
Post by: Ric O'Shay on September 14, 2013, 09:30:00 AM
Nice stuff.....I like my Ace heads.    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Simmons and Ace vs. phonebook**Updated angled shot with ribs!**
Post by: Rob W. on September 14, 2013, 09:37:00 AM
last year I used the Treesharks out of the Hope/faith bow. Deer spun on a already quartered first shot and cut femur in half below the ball. After retrieving I used the same arrow for a finishing shot through 2 sets of ribs and flat of shoulder with the tip touching the ground on opposite side.

 (http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee391/rjwalton8/20121230_172136.jpg) (http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/rjwalton8/media/20121230_172136.jpg.html)

 (http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee391/rjwalton8/20121230_171825.jpg) (http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/rjwalton8/media/20121230_171825.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Simmons and Ace vs. phonebook**Updated angled shot with ribs!**
Post by: Rob W. on September 14, 2013, 10:36:00 AM
So curiosity was killing me last night. Here is what I came up with. Broadhead target quartered away with ribs and hide.

 (http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee391/rjwalton8/20130914_101115.jpg) (http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/rjwalton8/media/20130914_101115.jpg.html)

These are 1/2" hardwood dowels gorilla taped with leather stretched over.

 (http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee391/rjwalton8/20130914_101738.jpg) (http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/rjwalton8/media/20130914_101738.jpg.html)

If all goes well I can get the head to hit across the ribs instead of in between.
Title: Re: Simmons and Ace vs. phonebook**Updated angled shot with ribs!**
Post by: Rob W. on September 14, 2013, 10:46:00 AM
The shot actually turned the arrow into the target. I'm shooting from straight in front of the table.

 (http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee391/rjwalton8/20130914_101930.jpg) (http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/rjwalton8/media/20130914_101930.jpg.html)

The sound of the head hitting perfectly flat against to pieces of hardwood was awful but effective.

 (http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee391/rjwalton8/20130914_102140.jpg) (http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/rjwalton8/media/20130914_102140.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Simmons and Ace vs. phonebook**Updated angled shot with ribs!**
Post by: Rob W. on September 14, 2013, 10:54:00 AM
I'm not sure what knowledge I gained from this but it is fun. Cut both dowels over half way through and suffered no damage. Still shaves hair the full length of the blades. The safari's will be my heads this year.    :archer2:

   (http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee391/rjwalton8/20130914_102447.jpg) (http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/rjwalton8/media/20130914_102447.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Simmons and Ace vs. phonebook**Updated angled shot with ribs!**
Post by: Mike Vines on September 14, 2013, 11:08:00 AM
You had fun, and it's better than watching TV
Title: Re: Simmons and Ace vs. phonebook**Updated angled shot with ribs!**
Post by: Stump73 on September 14, 2013, 06:21:00 PM
That's awesome!
Title: Re: Simmons and Ace vs. phonebook**Updated angled shot with ribs!**
Post by: Randy Morin on September 15, 2013, 10:25:00 AM
I believe that is the same Simmons head I killed 2 Bull Elk with. I call it the Interceptor... more trad, more Jerry. Ha.   ;)    Is that the 165 gn glue on? I mounted 3 of them a few weeks ago and had a pain in the but trying to get each one of them to sit on the steel adapter and spin true. I got them very close but not perfect like my Grizzlies come out when I mount them on adapters.  I also noticed that one blade sits closer to the ferrule then the other judging by the gap between the ferrule and the cut-out of the blade if that makes sense.  I wonder if they are not square to begin with and I hate wondering...chips away at my confidence with the head although I still would like to use them as my primary Elk head.

Did they mount up well for you or did you have to tweak and tweak and tweak and tweak....?
Title: Re: Simmons and Ace vs. phonebook**Updated angled shot with ribs!**
Post by: Rob W. on September 15, 2013, 01:54:00 PM
They are the Interceptor Safari's. I haven't had any mounting trouble. They are actually one of the easier mounting heads I have tried.
Title: Re: Simmons and Ace vs. phonebook**Updated angled shot with ribs!**
Post by: anw0625 on September 15, 2013, 02:40:00 PM
That is nice!
Title: Re: Simmons and Ace vs. phonebook**Updated angled shot with ribs!**
Post by: sneakybow on September 15, 2013, 10:50:00 PM
I'm going to be shooting Ace Super Express 175's this year. They're shooting like darts on the end of my 2117s.
Title: Re: Simmons and Ace vs. phonebook**Updated angled shot with ribs!**
Post by: Terry Green on September 16, 2013, 05:53:00 PM
Shooting 'stuff' is always fun anyway.  If ya can't get out and hunt, the next best thing is to tear something up with Bhead.    :D