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Title: Do bows have a soul
Post by: LongStick64 on August 31, 2013, 05:44:00 PM
Holy cow I almost made a huge mistake, HUGE. I was thinking of moving one of my bows and while I had it up for sale, I decided to give it a last farewell shooting.......I swear the bow was out to show me how much it wanted to stay, probably had my best shooting session ever !!! Back on the rack you go.
Title: Re: Do bows have a soul
Post by: BowZen on August 31, 2013, 05:52:00 PM
Sounds like you weren't ready to give her up.
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Post by: McDave on August 31, 2013, 05:54:00 PM
I feel the same way about a 65# Black Widow I took my first trad deer with.  No way should I be shooting anything that heavy anymore, and I've been on the verge of selling, trading, or giving it away several times.  But I always have the worst feeling whenever I start to do anything about it, so it's still on my rack, and probably will stay there until the day I die.
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Post by: Alexander Traditional on August 31, 2013, 05:54:00 PM
You did almost make a huge mistake. I know which bow you were talking about and I was looking at it real hard.
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Post by: dhermon85 on August 31, 2013, 06:01:00 PM
Now you should hunt it
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Post by: mcgroundstalker on August 31, 2013, 06:17:00 PM
Been there, too many times.........

... mike ...
Title: Re: Do bows have a soul
Post by: LongStick64 on August 31, 2013, 06:18:00 PM
You can bet I will hunt with it, I don't want to be haunted by it next.
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Post by: jsweka on August 31, 2013, 08:01:00 PM
They may not have a soul, but they do get jealous when you flirt with others.
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Post by: ron w on August 31, 2013, 08:41:00 PM
Soul?... maybe not but sometimes you just know that you belong together in the big woods.
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Post by: ron w on August 31, 2013, 08:48:00 PM
Soul?... maybe not but sometimes you just know that you belong together in the big woods.
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Post by: Frenchymanny on August 31, 2013, 09:21:00 PM
If it's made by hand, by someone you personally know, one at a time: Yes

F-Manny
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Post by: tim roberts on August 31, 2013, 09:58:00 PM
Amen to that Manny!
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Post by: halfseminole on August 31, 2013, 10:18:00 PM
Any bow made by hand has one.  Most have tempers and personalities as well.

(Ignore me if you want, I still thank my dinner for its sacrifice.)
Title: Re: Do bows have a soul
Post by: nineworlds9 on August 31, 2013, 10:32:00 PM
I think any handmade weapon has an energy to it imbued from its maker.  I'm German/ Nordic and my ancestors named their weapons and believed things like that, its in my blood.  

Closest I have come to this is with my Stewart.  I got the bow used, and its the best shooting bow I've ever had, I mean its just a cut above the rest.  Well beginning of this year I commissioned Leon to build me a new set of limbs just how I want them and refinish the riser.  During the wait I sold the old limbs.  Big mistake.  I was haunted by the decision and in the meantime bought so many other bows searching for something to come close to shoot with, only thing that even shoots remotely as well is my Habu, which I bought during the wait, all the while the riser sat there laughing at me.  Thank the almighty that Leon called last week and the new limbs and refinished riser will be arriving this coming week.  It's gonna be a great reunion, and the new limbs will no doubt be as good and even surpass the old ones.  I may be selling a few bows once Brenda, new and improved, comes home Haha.
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Post by: cisco 2 on August 31, 2013, 10:38:00 PM
Absolutely. They have a soul.
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Post by: luvnlongbow on September 01, 2013, 12:24:00 AM
I've let the store bought bows go, but just can't bring myself to get rid of something that a person made for me. Yes I think a bow has a soul or an energy that is created when a craftsman puts their all into creating a functional tool and a piece of art.
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Post by: Deeter on September 01, 2013, 05:18:00 AM
Bows are to me are kinda lime that old single shot shot gun my grandaddy gave me.  Every little scratch, ding, nich tells a story.  There is always somthing about it you may not know what it is but it just tells you to hang on to it.
Title: Re: Do bows have a soul
Post by: Bowjunkie on September 01, 2013, 06:00:00 AM
Yeah, as much as I like them, name them, feel connected to some of them, I'm gonna have to go with a 'no' on that one... no souls in bows... or anywhere else for that matter.
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Post by: Can Hahaka on September 01, 2013, 09:24:00 AM
Hell yes! If I don't treat it right it shoots high and to the right!
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Post by: ISP 5353 on September 01, 2013, 09:31:00 AM
It is funny how a shooter can bond with certian bows.  Manny makes a great point.  The four bows that I keep and really enjoy are each hand made by a person that I know.  I have owned and shot other bows that just did not speak to me in any way.
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Post by: yaderehey on September 01, 2013, 10:08:00 AM
I don't believe bows have a soul.  But often times someone put a bit of theirs into the building of one.
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Post by: Shane Reed on September 01, 2013, 10:38:00 AM
I think that some bows do. I hold on to my Fred Bear signed bows closely because of the mojo. I think that he is part of everything he touched. Had a new Bear "special"(red glass) TD that had a major temper with me last year. I couldn't shoot it, and missed 4 or 5 doe in one week on a hunting trip plus a buck spook when the limb hit the side of a stand while standing for a 10 yard shot. I got home from my hunting trip and immediately placed it up for trade. With the money I made back on that bow in traders; I was able to buy a 69 SK, knife and file set,a book that Fred signed with a stickbowman, and a signed Tigercat at excellent prices. I think that was Fred's way of making good on his lifetime warranty. ;o) It sure beat tossing that handle in my wood boiler; which is where it was headed after that trip.
Title: Re: Do bows have a soul
Post by: Sixby on September 01, 2013, 01:24:00 PM
Bows do not in any way have a soul. They can have a blessing though. The bowyer can pray for them to be a blessing to the man that they are made for and to reflect that this blessing is from God and to his glory. I pray that over every bow I build as I build it.
I believe that bow probably never got your full attention until you decided to get rid of it. As fast as some folks go through bows I believe that this may happen a lot. The bow literally never gets the time from the owner to allow the shooter to fully appreciate and get aquainted with the bow.
I am glad you had second thoughts . Perhaps you should take that bow off the rack more often.

God bless, Steve
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Post by: oldbohntr on September 01, 2013, 01:58:00 PM
No, they don't, but some bowyers do......
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Post by: Sam McMichael on September 01, 2013, 02:07:00 PM
They may or may not have a soul. But mine certainly have no conscience. They shoot only where I point them. On the few times I have sold one off, It sure has come to haunt me, though.
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Post by: reddogge on September 01, 2013, 02:29:00 PM
Egad, I hope not. Otherwise when I go to heaven I'll meet up with some of those dogs I used to own.
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Post by: kbetts on September 01, 2013, 02:52:00 PM
Yup.  I have a particular longbow that when I carry it, animals sacrifice themselves.  On more than one occasion I have shot at an animal more than once and missed with one bow only to go back and get it the first time with my Kimsha.  Call it mojo, call it soul, all I know is it feels like an extension of "my" soul.
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Post by: Can Hahaka on September 01, 2013, 03:21:00 PM
St. Thomas Aquinas, though not an Animist, believed as an Animist does, that all living things (including trees) have a soul. So, when the tree is harvested to make a bow, where does the soul of the tree go? Does it not stay with the wood? Where else could it possibly go to?
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Post by: wandering monk on September 01, 2013, 04:38:00 PM
bows are a matrix wood, glue and sweat...I dont believe they have a soul...but the person that made it for sure does...

that work is a testament for that meeting of time where that bowyer did their best to put together a means to launch an arrow...

that in itself is a bit of magic for me...
Title: Re: Do bows have a soul
Post by: TonyW on September 01, 2013, 06:56:00 PM
Not a soul in a bow, but Duke Ellington had soul, and in 1931 he wrote:

It Don't Mean a Thing (If It Ain't Got That String)
Title: Re: Do bows have a soul
Post by: TonyW on September 01, 2013, 06:57:00 PM
Not a soul in a bow, but Duke Ellington had soul, and in 1931 he wrote:

It Don't Mean a Thing (If It Ain't Got That String)
Title: Re: Do bows have a soul
Post by: Shifting Shadow on September 01, 2013, 08:14:00 PM
I don't know but some bows seem to bond with their owners.
Title: Re: Do bows have a soul
Post by: Shifting Shadow on September 01, 2013, 08:14:00 PM
I don't know but some bows seem to bond with their owners.
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Post by: Flying Dutchman on September 02, 2013, 01:56:00 AM
Yes!
Title: Re: Do bows have a soul
Post by: LongStick64 on September 02, 2013, 06:48:00 AM
Yes technically they don't have a soul but I do feel the bows we love the most are the bows that for some reason feel part of us an extension of us, and share our spirit for the hunt.

And for some reason we sometimes think we can find a better partner, when the best we have is right there in front of us.
Title: Re: Do bows have a soul
Post by: adkmountainken on September 02, 2013, 08:16:00 AM
well bow made from wood were ALIVE and i believe any living thing has a soul.....
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Post by: Mike Theis on September 02, 2013, 08:22:00 AM
All things are different forms of stored energy. This energy steps through different phases altered by the elements, the sun, and sometimes, man. Each bow follows a different path, so it's energy level, and properties are different. Shooting is about how we use this energy, how we interprete it, how we harness it, how we interact with it. When all that lines up with our own energy force, we have one sweet shooting bow. Sometimes we think the bow needs to conform to our energy pattern, when it's really the other way around. It's what you put into making the connection. The wood bow doesn't have a 'soul', but it's definitely talking to you.

** Note - The 'zen' version    :p  **
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Post by: Bowwild on September 02, 2013, 09:05:00 AM
I love em but they are "just" worked up lumber, and petroleum products. I won't let any of my beloved bows become Golden Rams.
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Post by: halfseminole on September 02, 2013, 12:04:00 PM
I think it's less about golden rams and more about being content with what you have, rather than tossing cash at the first thing to move.  Contentment is a thing unheard of in our society these days.  If feeling the bow has imprinted on me keeps me content, I don't see it as a bad thing.
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Post by: LongStick64 on September 02, 2013, 12:08:00 PM
Edward I think you nailed it for me. I've been guilty of chasing the rainbow and it's taking me time but I'm starting to acknowledge my foolishness. Maybe I needed my bow to lay it out for me.
Title: Re: Do bows have a soul
Post by: Kip on September 02, 2013, 12:48:00 PM
I had a great litte short riser bow with 60" limbs 50@28 perfect wgt. in my hand and perfect draw wgt.I bought the limbs used looked brand new small taper fit me perfect.A few weeks ago bottom limb broke.I sent the riser to the bowyer for some new limbs same wgt. and length.Well I got them back but the limbs look like a recurve limb without the curve the limbs are much wider than the orginal, wgt. of bow is no longer balanced in my hand and It just doesn't handle like orginal.It has lost its soul as far as I am concerned.Kip