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Title: I tried the Howard Hill 170yd elk shot!!!
Post by: Brianlocal3 on August 27, 2013, 09:59:00 PM
My in-laws live in a golf course in a small town here in KY and the driving range is tucked back away by the slough all by its self and offers 300 yds of straight green. I have wanted to try some flight shooting for years but we are always down here with a full schedule.

Well since I am working out of Paducah/evansville I am staying at my in-laws this week and brought my JD Berry Morning star along.

Instead of te typical pull back as far as you can flight shooting I wanted to see how far my hunting set up would shoot with my typical anchor.
My bow is 50@26 and I draw 26". I'm shooting 28 1/4" beman ICS 500 with 175 gr up front.

My average distance was 180 yds.  SOO I wanted to try to "group" them up and it was a blast!!!!!!!!!!

(http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/q618/brianlocal3/EDC3E5BB-D3F4-485F-B7DF-5BF0D07FC937-11809-00001A4078EE003A_zps67e86eff.jpg)
The range

The "group". If you look close you can see the red fletcher.  The sign behind them is the 200 yd marker
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(http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/q618/brianlocal3/4B6A90CF-8892-43EE-8B04-258B52C77A5B-11809-00001A40A99E55E3_zps37e23a63.jpg)

These signs are being taken down as the local kids have destroyed them so the groundskeeper said I could shoot at them.
He didn't have to worry about me hitting these shots.  Here is my group from trying to hit the sign at 100 yds
Bad pics but you should be able to pick out the arrows
(http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/q618/brianlocal3/C6E049F5-54A1-4A84-AF2C-86405FA5EAAD-11809-00001A407F59A2F8_zps88696347.jpg)

(http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/q618/brianlocal3/68C89408-833D-49C0-AEC5-988A787E8AB3-11809-00001A4087EDD394_zps083506fa.jpg)

My ride and my Morningstar
(http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/q618/brianlocal3/76A52E87-997D-4D08-8AE7-2FF48C16B7DA-11809-00001A409D5DD8EE_zpsc60f8032.jpg)

(http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/q618/brianlocal3/E1104596-9832-4FA9-AF4F-CF996F9B2B3D-11809-00001A40979CBE73_zps8a5dd4df.jpg)
Title: Re: I tried the Howard Hill 170yd elk shot!!!
Post by: Brianlocal3 on August 27, 2013, 10:03:00 PM
There was a 50 yd sign also, so I figured if give it some shots. This pic was my best group at 50.  I shot about 5 rounds of 4 arrows and typically hit 3 out of four but one of my rounds I shot high twice, low once and a hit.  I never did hit a 4out of four

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There are three arrows there, and I shot one under by a few inches.
Title: Re: I tried the Howard Hill 170yd elk shot!!!
Post by: cahaba on August 27, 2013, 10:07:00 PM
Good shooting Brian. Those long shots are fun. Watching the arrow in flight is magical.
Title: Re: I tried the Howard Hill 170yd elk shot!!!
Post by: Brianlocal3 on August 27, 2013, 10:07:00 PM
NOW for the "what was learned" section.  These long shots proved I have decent form and pretty good tuned arrows even though I did not hit everything, I did not have a single bad flyer left or right so it was elevation that got me.  It is wonderful to know that your arrows are "shooting the line" and flying true.  

I had an absolute blast out there and look forward to making some foam discs so I can do some aerial shooting out there.
Title: Re: I tried the Howard Hill 170yd elk shot!!!
Post by: Stump73 on August 27, 2013, 11:07:00 PM
Great shooting! Wouldn't it be awesome if you got a Robin Hood at 170 yds?
Title: Re: I tried the Howard Hill 170yd elk shot!!!
Post by: Brianlocal3 on August 27, 2013, 11:11:00 PM
It would be AWSOME indeed!! Luck is what I would need though ha
Title: Re: I tried the Howard Hill 170yd elk shot!!!
Post by: on August 27, 2013, 11:39:00 PM
When I read about that elk shot way back when, we made a sort of elk with burlap and foam. It was dimensionally correct except it had a set of large 11 point whitetail antlers skull and wall plate still attached and 2by4 legs. I used my 89 pound reverse Tembo. It was suppose to be one shot high one shot low and one shot right on.  It was in reality one shot so long that I lost the arrow, the next shot quite long, the next, the next and the next a bit over and then finally, WHACK, big red Howard Hill arrow flying all over the place.  I hit the antlers dead on and broke them and the arrow to pieces. I am not expecting to be able to hit anything that far away any more.
Title: Re: I tried the Howard Hill 170yd elk shot!!!
Post by: Archie on August 27, 2013, 11:45:00 PM
Is nice to have a golf cart when you have to cover those kinds of distances to retrieve your arrows!
Title: Re: I tried the Howard Hill 170yd elk shot!!!
Post by: Brianlocal3 on August 27, 2013, 11:55:00 PM
Pavan,
I wish I could have had a target of sorts to actually try to hit. I may try to position to 170 yds from the 200 yd sign and see what I can do.  I'm sure it will be lots of misses and maybe a hit.

And Archie, the golf cart was GREAT.
Title: Re: I tried the Howard Hill 170yd elk shot!!!
Post by: osageo on August 28, 2013, 01:58:00 AM
hate to tell you but i think your bow is strung backwards
Title: Re: I tried the Howard Hill 170yd elk shot!!!
Post by: SKITCH on August 28, 2013, 02:14:00 AM
Not backwards.   Ha ha.

Reverse handle.  
http://www.northernmistlongbows.com/Options/GripStyles/reverseHandle.html
Title: Re: I tried the Howard Hill 170yd elk shot!!!
Post by: Brianlocal3 on August 28, 2013, 06:58:00 AM
Osageo,
Thanks for the heads up, but that is my JD Berry Morningstar which is a reverse handled straightlimbed longbow..

Here is a closer look
(http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/q618/brianlocal3/90F69D83-B59F-438F-B551-8EE0E240C7F6-6382-00000C4CB09FD6A3_zpsff91a649.jpg)
(http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/q618/brianlocal3/7A47FAFD-682B-4435-A318-4D85CA22F271-5946-00000B4FBD6F8ED0_zps2f2b9f3f.jpg)
Title: Re: I tried the Howard Hill 170yd elk shot!!!
Post by: RedShaft on August 28, 2013, 09:07:00 AM
Launching arrows at distance is very fun ESP when using big banana fletch in a high vis color! Thanks for sharing and nice shooting!!
Title: Re: I tried the Howard Hill 170yd elk shot!!!
Post by: Chromebuck on August 28, 2013, 05:58:00 PM
Once you shoot a JD Berry reverse handle bow  it's hard to pick up anything else.  Good shooting...

~CB
Title: Re: I tried the Howard Hill 170yd elk shot!!!
Post by: Brianlocal3 on August 28, 2013, 07:00:00 PM
This Morningstar is phenomenal, and quite effortless to shoot.
AND James just told me my Northstar is complete and he is trying to get it mailed off before the post office closes!!!!!
Title: Re: I tried the Howard Hill 170yd elk shot!!!
Post by: rxhntr on August 28, 2013, 07:04:00 PM
I love playing golf with the bow, what a blast to launch arrows.
Title: Re: I tried the Howard Hill 170yd elk shot!!!
Post by: nineworlds9 on August 28, 2013, 08:09:00 PM
Nice!!!
Title: Re: I tried the Howard Hill 170yd elk shot!!!
Post by: Mudd on August 28, 2013, 11:01:00 PM
It looks like great fun!!

Thanks for sharing.

God bless,Mudd
Title: Re: I tried the Howard Hill 170yd elk shot!!!
Post by: Phrogdrvr on August 29, 2013, 07:17:00 AM
Foorrr!
Title: Re: I tried the Howard Hill 170yd elk shot!!!
Post by: Brianlocal3 on August 29, 2013, 08:37:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Phrogdrvr:
Foorrr!
^^^^^ this made me spit out my coffee this morning.  Funny
Title: Re: I tried the Howard Hill 170yd elk shot!!!
Post by: lone hunter on August 29, 2013, 09:17:00 AM
What do you have for limb veneers Brian? Iam creeping up the list for my Morningstar and kinda looking at different options. Originally chose black glass. Looks like you had fun on the range,I do something similar in the mule pasture.
Title: Re: I tried the Howard Hill 170yd elk shot!!!
Post by: jwhitetail on August 29, 2013, 10:58:00 AM
Wow... that looks like fun!  Great opportunity to have that kind of shooting range for the time being.  That Morning Star really launches them.  I have yet to et a situation where I have lobbed'em with my MS but I did participate in a long range shoot at a trad-shoot with my Vixen.  I throws them out there pretty good too.  
Thanks for sharing that adventure and enjoy your North Star!

JW
Title: Re: I tried the Howard Hill 170yd elk shot!!!
Post by: jwhitetail on August 29, 2013, 11:01:00 AM
Also, Lone Hunter, you might consider brown glass.  I Don't own any (Im partial to Yew) but I have seen a couple of Brown glass Berry bows and they are REALLY pretty.  Also very good hunting color as it does not reflect too much light.

Good luck on the elk next week!

JW
Title: Re: I tried the Howard Hill 170yd elk shot!!!
Post by: Brianlocal3 on August 29, 2013, 11:33:00 AM
Lone hunter,
I am partial to red elm, and that's what that bow is. All red elm limbs under clear. And I agree with JW in that I also have a thing for brown glass and more specifically brown on back, clear on belly which is what my Vixen is and is what my new Northstar is too.
Title: Re: I tried the Howard Hill 170yd elk shot!!!
Post by: dirtguy on August 29, 2013, 11:34:00 AM
It is a lot of fun to shoot at those distances.  My son and I did it early one Sunday morning at a school field.  

Howard Hill's Elk shot always bugged me though.  As good as he was, he still had no business shooting that far.
Title: Re: I tried the Howard Hill 170yd elk shot!!!
Post by: lone hunter on August 30, 2013, 08:27:00 AM
Thanks Jerry, maybe a dark brown on back and lighter brown on belly. Think I've seen something like that someplace.
Opening day of bear and Iam painting the kitchen.Dang. Lot of bears this year, they tore up my trailcam.

Beautiful bow Brian. Have a Vixen coming also but going with a toasted maple on that. The morningstar should be here for late season.
Good Hunting, Mike
Title: Re: I tried the Howard Hill 170yd elk shot!!!
Post by: Brianlocal3 on August 30, 2013, 08:49:00 AM
Great choices for sure!!! You will be very pleased
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Post by: Mudd on August 30, 2013, 09:20:00 AM
All I know about the next "Northstar"(Bumblebee) that will be headed my way is....it will perform with excellence.

I feel like a kid just before Christmas....lol

I keep thinking, if a 62" bow can be that smooth, how smooth will it feel at 66"?

What I do know is that it will be 66" and in the low 50's@28, everything else is ?.  Mr Berry said he'd find some trash wood laying around to put it together..lol Yeah right!

Brian as soon as mine arrives we'll need to compare notes.

Thanks for keeping us entertained with some fun shooting.

Season is coming!!

God bless,Mudd
Title: Re: I tried the Howard Hill 170yd elk shot!!!
Post by: Friend on August 30, 2013, 09:36:00 AM
The great entertainment we revel in may have merely evolved in diminutive increments since childhood.


Thanks for sharing...