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Title: Almost deer season, where to aim ?
Post by: ChuckC on August 23, 2013, 01:01:00 PM
Found this in my older pix.

Although not exactly perfect, this rebuild of a deer skeleton gives a great idea of how they are put together.  Hint. . . notice all the room ABOVE the elbow that is not covered by anything but ribs, and behind which is solid heart and lungs.

 (http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h254/BiteMyButtski/100_0360.jpg) (http://s66.photobucket.com/user/BiteMyButtski/media/100_0360.jpg.html)

Shoot straight
ChuckC
Title: Re: Almost deer season, where to aim ?
Post by: frassettor on August 23, 2013, 01:06:00 PM
I like the pic chuck    :thumbsup:   where's that on display?
Title: Re: Almost deer season, where to aim ?
Post by: ChuckC on August 23, 2013, 01:16:00 PM
I had access to it via hunter ed (instructor)previously, but these pix were taken at the D & T expo some years ago.  I took several from various angles.  Really opens your eyes as to where things really are.

For those that want to take frontal shots, note, these critters are designed to go thru thick stuff and the rib cage is made to protect the innards from puncture (as well as aid in breathing).  The ribs in front are slightly flattened and positioned to divert sticks and things from entering the thorax.  This would tend to include arrows.  The opening is designed to allow for esophagus and windpipe.

  (http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h254/BiteMyButtski/100_0361.jpg) (http://s66.photobucket.com/user/BiteMyButtski/media/100_0361.jpg.html)

ChuckC
Title: Re: Almost deer season, where to aim ?
Post by: Tee Bone on August 23, 2013, 01:24:00 PM
that's very interesting, thanks for posting
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Post by: L82HUNT on August 23, 2013, 01:32:00 PM
Really shows there is really only one spot on a deer that is heavy bone.  Where that ball joint below the shoulder blade meet.    And it's in front of the spot you want to hit
Title: Re: Almost deer season, where to aim ?
Post by: northener on August 23, 2013, 01:35:00 PM
The front leg needs to be in that position too or better yet forward to offer a larger shot at the vitals.

I guess that is another good reason not to take front angling shots, wait for broadside or angling away shots. It opens up the area even more.

thanks for posting.
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Post by: Slickhead on August 23, 2013, 02:29:00 PM
nice pic
Thanks
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Post by: Friend on August 23, 2013, 02:46:00 PM
Revisiting the basics is possibly shared by all the successful.

Thank you!
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Post by: Orion on August 23, 2013, 03:18:00 PM
The scapula is angled back a little more and thus the blade comes down a bit lower than shown in the pix.  Good post. Never hurts to refresh.
Title: Re: Almost deer season, where to aim ?
Post by: Zradix on August 23, 2013, 04:45:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by northener:
The front leg needs to be in that position too or better yet forward to offer a larger shot at the vitals.

I guess that is another good reason not to take front angling shots, wait for broadside or angling away shots. It opens up the area even more.

thanks for posting.
...as that foot comes forward the shoulder blade comes down.
To me that position is about as good as it gets.
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Post by: Gen273 on August 23, 2013, 05:43:00 PM
Great post, thanks for the pics.
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Post by: Will Cocke 2 on August 23, 2013, 06:12:00 PM
Good pic! Near side leg forward sink it I the pocket!!
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Post by: Pheonixarcher on August 23, 2013, 06:29:00 PM
I was just searching for pics like this not too long ago. Thanks for sharing.
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Post by: wooddamon1 on August 23, 2013, 07:02:00 PM
Great pics.
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Post by: hnt2mch on August 24, 2013, 01:45:00 AM
thats pretty neat!
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Post by: bowhuntingrn on August 24, 2013, 04:10:00 AM
Thanks for the refresher. Good to reinforce every now and then.
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Post by: BEN on August 24, 2013, 07:44:00 AM
I need to show this to a couple wheelie buddies at work.  They were SO adamant that I had made  border-line bad shots twice last year because  my entrance hole was through the top edge of tricep muscle....

I asked if they'd ever butchered their own deer, because is so, they'd know that both were great shots.....they wouldn't believe me....    :readit:
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Post by: RockChucker30 on August 24, 2013, 08:29:00 AM
Awesome!  It is interesting just how high the shoulder blade really is.
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Post by: tradarcher816 on August 24, 2013, 08:49:00 AM
Those are great, I've never had a pic like that to really look at and evaluate my shots. Thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: Almost deer season, where to aim ?
Post by: ChuckC on August 24, 2013, 10:51:00 AM
For the newer hunters out there. .  remember. . this is 3 dimensional.  

We train on a 2 dimensional target and aim for "the spot".  You need to deterimine where that spot is.

On a real critter, "the spot" to aim moves depending upon the deer's stance and your position relative to the deer.  If you aim for that same practice spot at a deer that is quartering away from you, or at a deer that is close and below you (treestand shot) you are going to experience problems.

Think before you shoot.  If you don't understand what I am talking about here, ask an experienced bowhunter to walk you thru it.  Or ask the folks here.

CHuckC
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Post by: Archie on August 25, 2013, 12:34:00 AM
That's a great picture and very helpful to look at for a novice deer hunter...
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Post by: GrayRhino on August 25, 2013, 01:03:00 AM
These are also very good.

http://tradgang.com/noncgi/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=084174
Title: Re: Almost deer season, where to aim ?
Post by: Roger Norris on August 25, 2013, 07:54:00 AM
Great post. Especially interesting is the point about the ribs being designed to deflect objects from the front.
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Post by: FerretWYO on August 25, 2013, 08:36:00 AM
Great visual information. I like the frontal pic. That's what a lot of people on TV should see.
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Post by: swamper on August 25, 2013, 02:34:00 PM
cool to see