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Here is the method I speak of
http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=related&v=_7AHA2TyqHo
I understand using this method out west and on big animals, but being an eastern hunter who shoots mostly whitetails I typicall guy my animal, and drag it back to camp. My longest drag was a mile in pretty rough Shawnee terrain and I think quartering the animal would have been a better method.
At camp we typically hang the deer for a few days before skinning and deboning into coolers. I may try this method this year if I can put one down
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I do it on whitetails if I am hunting public land and can't drive to the deer. I'd rather carry meat than drag a deer.
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I often clean completely without gutting!!
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I'm a big fan of it.
Has saved me several times a long way from the truck..
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I do it as well! Alot easier then dragging a animal out of the swamp
chirs <><
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Excellent! Thanks for sharing.
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I have never done it this way.....But i will now!
Thanks for showing it.
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Do it with Hogs & Bears all the time.
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I don`t drag anything farther than dry ground. Been packing the meat out for years.RC
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Me too. I will occasionally drag but only if going a short distance.
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I used to do it all the time before I got access to a walk-in cooler. Now we gut em on site or at the cooler, and hang them for a few days. Before it was in the backyard, hanging in an tree, using flashlights, didn't enjoy it at all.
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can't do it here (unless they changed rules again), need to turn in the carcass for check in.
ChuckC
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Had to do something similar last year.
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Have used the western style method; however not nearly as gracefully.
Will be much better prepared the next time.
Thank you for sharing...
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It's something I want to try but I need to check our regs 1st just to be on the safe side.
God bless,Mudd
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I haven't tried this method before but I have been planning on giving it a go this season.
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I've never tried it but after some of the drags I've involved with I will definitely keep it in mind.
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Deer Tagging and Checking
Immediately upon killing a deer, the hunter must complete a temporary tag on paper that states the hunter’s name, address, sex of the deer, and the day and month of the kill. A hunter is not required to place the tag on the deer while dragging it out of the field as long as the hunter has filled out and is carrying the required information. A hunter must maintain immediate custody of and visual contact with the deer carcass unless the completed temporary transportation tag is attached. The tag must be attached to the deer before the hunter leaves the deer or loads the deer in a vehicle.
The person who takes the deer is responsible for the delivery of the deer to an official deer check station within 48 hours of the kill, or use the CheckIN Game online system to obtain a confirmation number within 48 hours of the kill. The CheckIN Game confirmation number must be written down on the temporary transportation tag and kept with the deer until processing begins. For a complete listing of check stations, see pages Check Stations of this guide or go tohunting.IN.gov.
The deer head must remain attached to the carcass until the tag is attached and locked at the deer check station. If the deer is taken to a check station, a permanent seal must be attached to the carcass. The permanent seal must remain attached until processing of the deer begins.
Our Indiana regs seem to make it illegal to bone out a deer.
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In Louisiana they don't have deer check stations except on public land. Even if I bring the deer back to camp with a 4 wheeler I use the gutless method
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Pennsylvania allows you to pack a deer out as long as you have it tagged with proof of sex. I lived and hunted in Montana for 4 years and packed out everything but it never dawned on me to do it here. I think this year will be the year. Thanks for the post!
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I just got my e-mail reply from the Missouri Department of Conservation.
As soon as you telecheck your game it's yours to do with as you please. Wohoo!!
God bless,Mudd
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Iv' done it before, but only suppose to in NY if your in remote areas. 9 of my last 10 bucks I have killed on my own land. I can just drive up the hill with tractor and wagon and throw them on, take them down to my barn, and process.I do process them gutless in the barn sometimes, but more times than not I gut them once hung and drop the guts in a wheel barrel. I celebrate the kill by eating the hanging tenders first. :) YUM YUM
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Haven't gutted a deer in 15 years. At the camp we hang them by the neck and then clean them without gutting. We even get the inside tenderloins (sweet meat) out by coming in under the spine toward the bottom of the back strap and reaching in and pulling them out. Its the way to go.
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Originally posted by achigan:
Deer Tagging and Checking
Immediately upon killing a deer, the hunter must complete a temporary tag on paper that states the hunter’s name, address, sex of the deer, and the day and month of the kill. A hunter is not required to place the tag on the deer while dragging it out of the field as long as the hunter has filled out and is carrying the required information. A hunter must maintain immediate custody of and visual contact with the deer carcass unless the completed temporary transportation tag is attached. The tag must be attached to the deer before the hunter leaves the deer or loads the deer in a vehicle.
The person who takes the deer is responsible for the delivery of the deer to an official deer check station within 48 hours of the kill, or use the CheckIN Game online system to obtain a confirmation number within 48 hours of the kill. The CheckIN Game confirmation number must be written down on the temporary transportation tag and kept with the deer until processing begins. For a complete listing of check stations, see pages Check Stations of this guide or go tohunting.IN.gov.
The deer head must remain attached to the carcass until the tag is attached and locked at the deer check station. If the deer is taken to a check station, a permanent seal must be attached to the carcass. The permanent seal must remain attached until processing of the deer begins.
Our Indiana regs seem to make it illegal to bone out a deer.
By phone or online via smart phone does away with all of the tagging and check station crap. You are good to go as soon as you have your confirm #.
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yes it's the way to go.. particularly with ELK
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Rob W. is correct for IN.....it was a long time coming but that hassle of dragging a carcass to a check station has been eliminated. Unless you choose to of course.
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John146, I never thought of doing it that way. :knothead: Thanks for the tip.
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I have been using the "Gutless " method on Bears for quite a few years now.
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I do it fairly often, really it's easier than hauling one out.
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I won't gut hogs and deer get the gut treatment unless there isn't a place to hang them
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WOW I'm actually surprised at how many people use this method. I was never shown it but now I plan on giving it a go for sure
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Ive seen it on hogs, but curious how much meat is lost this way. Seems like a good bit of sausage filling could be lost...
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why would you lose any ? Take it off the bone like you would at home. Carry a game bag and put it all inside.
ChuckC
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Originally posted by ChuckC:
why would you lose any ? Take it off the bone like you would at home. Carry a game bag and put it all inside.
ChuckC
The method I've seen discards all the ribs, belly, etc...
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gringol, you do lose the ribs but that is basically it. I am into sausage and hamburger meat so when we are done there is not much left. All the meat on the outside of the ribs is harvested. For me it is worth not tainting meat with the guts and it sure is convenient to discard.
Knawbone, your welcome. I get so much good info on this site it is good to give a little for a change.
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Thanks, Todd. I don't think the method I've seen was done properly, lots of good meat left on the ribs/neck. Thanks for the clarification.
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Originally posted by gringol:
Thanks, Todd. I don't think the method I've seen was done properly, lots of good meat left on the ribs/neck. Thanks for the clarification.
We almost always cut the neck off and have the butcher make neck chops out of them cut about 1" thick. If we don't make neck chops we cut every sliver of neck meat off for sausage & burgers. Hope you have a bunch of opportunities this year!
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Yeah Brian, in Colorado the rules (at least did) exclude the neck and the ribs from necessary recovery, however not all states are like that. Pretty certain if you do that in Alaska you will be fined quite heavily.
I bone it all out and sort thru all of it later, when in a state where I can do that.
I do that same thing at home when butchering my animal, putting the bagged pieces and parts into a cooler for a few days on ice.
It is certainly a great idea if you do not need to register the carcass. Hoping Wisconsin sees the light soon.
ChuckC
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Originally posted by Rob W.:
Originally posted by achigan:
Deer Tagging and Checking
Immediately upon killing a deer, the hunter must complete a temporary tag on paper that states the hunter’s name, address, sex of the deer, and the day and month of the kill. A hunter is not required to place the tag on the deer while dragging it out of the field as long as the hunter has filled out and is carrying the required information. A hunter must maintain immediate custody of and visual contact with the deer carcass unless the completed temporary transportation tag is attached. The tag must be attached to the deer before the hunter leaves the deer or loads the deer in a vehicle.
The person who takes the deer is responsible for the delivery of the deer to an official deer check station within 48 hours of the kill, or use the CheckIN Game online system to obtain a confirmation number within 48 hours of the kill. The CheckIN Game confirmation number must be written down on the temporary transportation tag and kept with the deer until processing begins. For a complete listing of check stations, see pages Check Stations of this guide or go tohunting.IN.gov.
The deer head must remain attached to the carcass until the tag is attached and locked at the deer check station. If the deer is taken to a check station, a permanent seal must be attached to the carcass. The permanent seal must remain attached until processing of the deer begins.
Our Indiana regs seem to make it illegal to bone out a deer.
By phone or online via smart phone does away with all of the tagging and check station crap. You are good to go as soon as you have your confirm #. [/b]
Rob, thanks for the heads-up, nice to know. Jim :thumbsup:
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Ive not gutted a deer in ten years. Hams straps shoulders neck meat and if you do it right you can get the tenderloins inside the ribs without touching the guts. Deer ribs just don't do it for me bro... A bigger animal maybe but a south Alabama deer just doesn't have enuff meat on the ribs to waste my time on. Not to mention like the other guys said, taint a ton of meat with guts to get some dinky ribs... Not me.
Dave
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Best way to gettim outta the swamps.
Haven't gutted in years.
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Only reason I'll carry a bone out other than in the head and upper neck, is for my dog...and he may not get one..too much weight.
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I,ve used it many times. Bout every time I shoot some critter in a nasty spot. I absolutely will not drag a deer more than 50 yards or so unless its down a fairly steep hill. Its much easier on your back to pack them out.
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Not trying to steal the thread but what kind of packs are some of you using for packing out the meat?
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Well I'm not out East, but I used it on my Whitetail last winter hunting a SWA out on the plains, was able to get my whole deer out in one trip, 3 miles to the parking lot, however I did walk back and get my frame pack and return to butcher her. Didn't seem to loose any meat over conventional method. Plus it allowed me to drive my little beater commuter car out for the 200 mile roundtrip to my hunting unit, would of looked like a serious redneck on my drive back to Denver with her strapped to the top of the trunk:)
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Does anyone know if this is legal in WI?