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Should you practice when your not in the mood for it ?
Let me be more specific, I have been practicing every night for the past month. I am happy with my progress (after I figured out I was way over spined) I can now hold a rock solid anchor so I developed a lot of strength.
Tonight I was just not in the mood to shoot, my brother-in-law was over till almost dark. I then thought about my commitment to shoot each night. It then floated thru my mind it is suppose to rain tomorrow & I might not get to shoot.
So I strung up my bow on this hot humid Michigan day, was shooting because I felt I have to, not that I want to (I usually enjoy shooting & look at it as a nice way to relax after work) went out side, couldn't concentrate on picking a spot as my mind was thinking about everything except shooting. First round of arrows sprayed all over, I realized I needed to concentrate on picking a spot. The second round was not a whole lot better. After the 3rd round I thought enough is enough.
So with all that said............... Should you practice when your not in the mood for it ? All I probably did was develop a little bit of shoulder muscle.
Dan
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I would say no. If you can't fully concentrate then things usually go bad. I would suggest just shooting a couple arrows and call it a day.
Al
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No do not practice when you can not focus. I go tho shoot sometimes I just have to much on my mind. So I just stop.If you allow yourself to do bad things because your not in the mood or focused your telling your subconscious that its ok and you will do bad things. One of the most important things I learned from Rod Jenkins is the best shot you can ever take is to let the bow down and not shoot the shot if its not right. I do it often let down and start over. So just don't do it!
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No...unless you have total concentration and focus on every shot, leave the bow hanging. Again, archery like any other sport is mental and if your not in the right frame of mind, your shooting will suffer.
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I am so glad you asked this. I have been thinking about this recently too. Yesterday due to work stress I was so frustrated shooting. Like you I could not get it right. My focus was way poor. And then I had a hard time finding a good time to quit, as I usually try to quit on a good note.
Today, I was back to form....not as good as I like to be, but much more myself. So, I agree with the others. I should have just not practiced when my focus is poor.
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The answers are coming in like I thought, I need to get the time in as I am improving a lot. But some nights my head is not in the game & I kinda figured I might be doing more harm than good.
Thanks for confirming my thoughts,
Dan
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I'm tempted To go out right now and shoot but I got little sleep last night and I shot great last night. My neighbors are building a garage and I don't like to shoot when they have there whole circus of people over. Which is all weekend from Fri.after work to Sunday night. So weekends are out. So yeah I feel like I should be Shooting now.
I find short sessions to be satisfying as long as Im shooting good. If I'm shooting bad be it wether I'm distracted tired or just not in the mood. Bad habits can develop. So I will either put the bow away. Or I will Step up close and just work on blank bale or some mechanical aspect of my shooting.
It is supposed to be fun and relaxing not work.
Tim.
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No, this is a hobby, not a job. If you practice when you don't really want to, then concentration and form will suffer. That's how bad habits creep in. Just make sure you shoot enough to stay in condition and maintain form.
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Sorry double post. Dang Kindle
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No! :knothead: /work. :archer: enjoyable, and rewarding, NOT a labor.
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Not in the mood is just that but I think practicing concentration through stress can be a good thing. Blocking out everything but the shot is a very important skill that takes time to master.
Rob
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Your not getting paid to do it. It should be fun or relaxing.
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No.
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This should be fun and not work- save shooting until you want to and can concentrate on good form.
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I will let you know when that happens, lol.
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First, before I disagree with everyone, I will have to admit that I do the same thing: I don't shoot unless I feel like it. But I'm just an old man, and past the age where I can prove anything to anybody.
Now I'll disagree with everyone. Anyone who wants to really excel at something will find a way to practice each and every day. When Hemingway went to Paris, he made an agreement with himself that he would write at least X number of words each and every day. Sometimes he would throw away everything he had written the day before, but he wrote anyway. I'm sure pro athletes practice every day in season and pre-season, and most days in between. I know enough pro musicians that I can say they practice just about every day, even the ones who aren't stars. Any of these people, writers, athletes, musicians, will generally practice whether they feel like it or not. If they don't practice, it's because they can't, for some reason or another, not because they don't feel like it.
Now if the reason you're shooting the bow is just to have fun, fine, but if you want to get to the next level, you're going to have to figure out some way to practice on those days when you don't feel like it.
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as mentioned, this is suppose to be fun. If you are not gonna enjoy it at that moment dont do it. nothing good can come from forcing something that is 90% mental when your mind is on other things.
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If you have a perfectly tuned set up, then yes, I think it would be good to force yourself to concentrate and make good shots. That is unless you are fatigued and or just in a really bad/angry mood. Not saying that you have to do it every time, just that it is good practice sometimes. Also, it can be better for your overall practice to take a day off every now and again.
On the other hand, if you are in the process of tuning a new set up, then NO, do not practice unless you have 100% commitment and confidence in what you are doing. My $.02.
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NO
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If practicing every night has yielded happiness with your progress, then I would keep that up. Myself, I shoot every day. Sometimes I only get a few minutes to shoot 6 or 9 arrows, but I'm still reiterating muscle memory. Even if your not in to it you can invest sound technique in to 5 minutes of shooting. I've found it's like working out, a road bike ride, or anything else; the days you're not super motivated but do it anyway are often the most rewarding.
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No. If your head isnt in it, your head isnt in it! Practice DOES NOT make perfect......you know the rest!
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Just made this call last evening. Got home from work and was exhausted (as in fall asleep at the dinner table exhausted). I decided not to shoot.
When I'm too tired or not in the mood, I risk damaging arrows when I miss, or worse, injuring myself if I'm not paying attention to my form.
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Maybe it's days like those that cross training is valuable. Perhaps using a form master for strength training.. or close blank bale shooting with your eyes closed...or draw and letdown in front of a mirror and watch for form....all good stuff........Tom
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I do it all the time..but I have to shoot to keep my strength at the level I want it. I always get into it after the first shot anyway.
Right now I'm forcing myself not to shoot and I want to. I had appendix removed 3wks ago and wasn't suppose to lift more than 25lbs for 3wks. Somehow I forgot and started shooting my recurves again two wks after the surgery and started having a little pain in my lower right side so stopped for about a wk so far anyway. Might start back this afternoon. Good practice for using back tension only.
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I do not practice ever.... that sounds like another of the four letter words I don't like...it rhymes "work"!!...lol
I simply shoot...and I shoot almost every day.
It's almost like breathing.
God bless,Mudd
PS: It's the best and cheapest form of therapy I've ever experienced.
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I agree with McDave for the most part. If we are talking one or two days, fine, don't shoot. If you are waiting weeks or months to get in the mood, then maybe you need another sport.
Not in the mood, and not able to concentrate and do it correctly for a few dozen shots are not necessarily related.
ChuckC
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Absolutely not. On the other hand, I can't remember the last time I wasn't in the mood to shoot!
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I shoot every day and if I find that my concentration is not what it should be (from that
days stress or whatever) I will just move in close
and do blank bale for that session and and press
on. there is always something to work on.
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If I waited for a time when I wasn't tired, stressed, or thinking about multiple other things besides shooting, I would never get to shoot. I either figure a way to block all else out or like others have suggested, move up close and work on form or go to the blank bale. Save the longer or challenging shots for those days when the stars are aligned.
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I don't do much of anything I'm not in the mood to do.
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I've always heard that "bad practice" is worse than "no practice."
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I tend to agree with what Rob W. said. I try to practice through being tired. The practice when things are not perfect, I feel will only make you better when you are well rested. The mental part of it may be a different matter but I think it is somewhat the same. I may not shoot but a few shots and really try to concentrate on good form. Also, maybe just some blind bale shooting would be appropriate.
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I read the first page then posted my thoughts. I then read page 2. Several are saying what I was thinking. I especially like the way McDave said it.
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Originally posted by McDave:
Now I'll disagree with everyone. Anyone who wants to really excel at something will find a way to practice each and every day. When Hemingway went to Paris, he made an agreement with himself that he would write at least X number of words each and every day. Sometimes he would throw away everything he had written the day before, but he wrote anyway. I'm sure pro athletes practice every day in season and pre-season, and most days in between. I know enough pro musicians that I can say they practice just about every day, even the ones who aren't stars. Any of these people, writers, athletes, musicians, will generally practice whether they feel like it or not. If they don't practice, it's because they can't, for some reason or another, not because they don't feel like it.
Now if the reason you're shooting the bow is just to have fun, fine, but if you want to get to the next level, you're going to have to figure out some way to practice on those days when you don't feel like it.
Well said McDave, them are my thoughts & you put it into words better than I could. I want to be able to confidently hunt at 20 yards & previous years I limited myself to 15 yards because it is what I felt comfortable with.
I thought about it as training like an athlete would, you practice on bad days if in the mood or not. I have been very happy with my improvements. Last year I could barley hold my anchor, this year I can hold it for 5 minutes.
But........ As posted I was afraid of developing bad habits. As long as Its only once a week I'm not in the mood it sounds like I will be ok. 99.9% of the time I enjoy practicing.
Dan
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Yes.
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Originally posted by TRAP:
I don't do much of anything I'm not in the mood to do.
Bwaahaaahhaa :) You are the man. Perfect answer.
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I just start thinking how cool I look wearing my back quiver .... next thing you know I'm flinging arrows in the back yard!!!
Practice sounds serious - I like fun.