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Title: Going from tab to glove, first time need some advice.
Post by: RedShaft on August 21, 2013, 01:10:00 PM
I've been a tab shooter all my life and recently borrowed a glove to try and I really liked it.  Always there in position ready to go. Not flapping around. And also my fingers have been getting sore before my muscles do from shooting. Most times I stop shooting because my fingers. I always likes a thicker tab for his reason. I like the feel of the shot on a thinner tab but can only shoot for short periods. I have learned to control my shot 3 years ago and now hold at draw for few seconds and i feel is reason my fingers get tender so quickly. I used to snap shoot and could shoot allot more. I talked to Arne about his and tried some different techniques that did help with the finger soreness But after shooting many arrows they get sore.
I was thinking of trying either the dura glove or the big shot glove. Does the dura glove have leather under the nylon? I also considered the the new one with buffalo but I don't think I need one that thick. Also you have to get a glove broke in for it to shoot nice? Is this true?. I shoot #51. Thanks.
Title: Re: Going from tab to glove, first time need some advice.
Post by: dirtguy on August 21, 2013, 01:14:00 PM
I use a Damascus glove.  Although thinner than the glove you mention, I find it works well.  They are cheap - you may want to buy one and try it out.
Title: Re: Going from tab to glove, first time need some advice.
Post by: RedShaft on August 21, 2013, 01:36:00 PM
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Originally posted by dirtguy:
I use a Damascus glove.  Although thinner than the glove you mention, I find it works well.  They are cheap - you may want to buy one and try it out.
That is what I tried. I liked feel of glove but it was too thin for me. Hunting, no problem. But everyday shooting id be tender
Title: Re: Going from tab to glove, first time need some advice.
Post by: johnnyk71 on August 21, 2013, 01:56:00 PM
American Leathers Crossover. best glove i have ever used. plenty thick, but also plenty flexible and good feel.
Title: Re: Going from tab to glove, first time need some advice.
Post by: bulldog18 on August 21, 2013, 03:03:00 PM
X2 on the American Leathers Crossover. Had the Bigshot and thought nothing could beat it until I got the Crossover.
Title: Re: Going from tab to glove, first time need some advice.
Post by: northener on August 21, 2013, 03:24:00 PM
I am curious about why you have sore fingers? Something is causing this.

Do you use a deep hook on the string? Good back tension with follow thru until release.

What's your draw length?

How long is your bow?

Recurve or longbow?

split or three under?

What type of tab are you currently using?
Title: Re: Going from tab to glove, first time need some advice.
Post by: Dogbyte on August 21, 2013, 03:34:00 PM
i just have a cheap Neet Archery glove, and my fingers arent sore after hours of shooting. i changed from a tab as well, the tab for me, was too thick and i couldnt feel the string, my accuracy improved quite a bit. havent looked back.

do you shoot a FF string, small diameter?

i wish i could afford a nice Corsican leather glove, maybe one day.
Title: Re: Going from tab to glove, first time need some advice.
Post by: danseitz on August 21, 2013, 03:57:00 PM
I could never shoot with a tab.  Have no idea how people shoot them.  I use a Berlin glove from 3 Rivers.  Has a little extra leather on the finger tips.  Good feel of the string.
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Post by: MnFn on August 21, 2013, 04:16:00 PM
Crossover is my main glove.  But I do have a Neet glove that has fairly heavy leather that I like also.
I tried a tab and thought that was the way to go, but after awhile I came back to a glove.
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Post by: Shawn Leonard on August 21, 2013, 04:24:00 PM
My advise is don't do it!!  :bigsmyl:  I started out shooting a glove and went to a tab and will never go back. I get a much cleaner release with a tab. If I am bunny hunting than and only than I use a glove because the action can be fast and furious and a glove is quicker to get on the string and get a shot off. Shawn
Title: Re: Going from tab to glove, first time need some advice.
Post by: Orion on August 21, 2013, 04:45:00 PM
I started shooting a tab last year after about 40 years of shooting gloves.  I like it for target shooting, but I like a glove better for hunting for the reason you mentioned.  It's always at the ready and faster to put into action.

For hunting I use an American leathers Big Shot.  I think at the draw weight you have, the Big Shot will be more than sufficient.  It has a nylon webbing over the leather in the finger stalls.  The Crossover, also has a nylon insert sewn inside the finger stalls in addition to the nylon webbing sewn over the outside, more than you need IMO.

Regardless, it will take a little time to break in the glove.  Definitely a different feel. I think the release can be a bit cleaner with a tab,  as Shawn points out.
Title: Re: Going from tab to glove, first time need some advice.
Post by: RedShaft on August 21, 2013, 05:04:00 PM
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Originally posted by northener:
I am curious about why you have sore fingers? Something is causing this.

Do you use a deep hook on the string? Good back tension with follow thru until release.

What's your draw length?

How long is your bow?

Recurve or longbow?

split or three under?

What type of tab are you currently using?
Bateman Cordovan with space
Black widow pchx 58 inch recurve
29 in draw
Split fingers
I work on my form constantly since I stopped snap shooting. Feel I'm very solid. Squeezing with the back is what breaks my shot over.
Full first joint or just a hair deeper. Better release and less hand tension for me.
Title: Re: Going from tab to glove, first time need some advice.
Post by: Easykeeper on August 21, 2013, 05:20:00 PM
I like a Damascus glove but for bows over 50# at my draw length I like a little more protection.  I use a Dura-Glove when I'm not using the Damascus.  Unfortunately I have read several poor reviews of the currently available Dura-glove, mine is an old one.  The Bearpaw Speed Glove is very similar.

American Leathers makes a fabulous glove, mine is a Big Shot Elk skin model.  It's a little more padding than I like but then I'm only shooting 50#.  It's very well made and a great glove.
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Post by: khardrunner on August 21, 2013, 06:13:00 PM
blackwidow sticktite gloves are nice. I have the extra thick one with nylon over the tips. They take a bit to break in, but very clean release.
Title: Re: Going from tab to glove, first time need some advice.
Post by: RC on August 21, 2013, 06:54:00 PM
A 62" bow at 29 draw would make a world of difference.RC
Title: Re: Going from tab to glove, first time need some advice.
Post by: northener on August 21, 2013, 06:57:00 PM
Sounds like you have things well under control, sorry for the questions, just puzzling me is all.

 I also shoot a bateman/with spacer, my favorite by far of all the tabs I have tried thru the years. I too, make sure of a deep hook and follow thru till arrow hit target. The only time my fingers get remotely sore is if I do not follow thru with back tension or using a shorter bow will some times pinch my pointer finger.

Good luck to you.
Title: Re: Going from tab to glove, first time need some advice.
Post by: RedShaft on August 21, 2013, 07:26:00 PM
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Originally posted by northener:
Sounds like you have things well under control, sorry for the questions, just puzzling me is all.

 I also shoot a bateman/with spacer, my favorite by far of all the tabs I have tried thru the years. I too, make sure of a deep hook and follow thru till arrow hit target. The only time my fingers get remotely sore is if I do not follow thru with back tension or using a shorter bow will some times pinch my pointer finger.

Good luck to you.
No problem, I would post pics of my hand at full draw but it would need to go into the shooters forum. I'm not real sure. Kinda stumps me also
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Post by: Fanto on August 21, 2013, 07:30:00 PM
howard hill archery makes a glove that stops sore fingers. it is very think double leather with nylon strip inserts just like the master himself used
Title: Re: Going from tab to glove, first time need some advice.
Post by: gregg dudley on August 21, 2013, 09:44:00 PM
Go back to the tab!     :D
Title: Re: Going from tab to glove, first time need some advice.
Post by: postman on August 21, 2013, 10:02:00 PM
Damascus glove with deep hook works for me at 52 pds. Love tabs but have a habit of string hitting nose, with glove no problem.
Title: Re: Going from tab to glove, first time need some advice.
Post by: Kevin Winkler on August 21, 2013, 11:03:00 PM
I have had the same problem with the string hitting my nose as has postman. But only when I shoot a tab...so now I just shoot a glove and have no problems.
Title: Re: Going from tab to glove, first time need some advice.
Post by: xtrema312 on August 22, 2013, 07:51:00 AM
I go back and forth on tab and glove.  So far the gloves I like best are the Dura-glove and Big Shot.  I have not tried the cross over. My only issues with the Dura-glove are that my index finger nylon overlay is too short, and I am between a medium and large so getting the medium fitting has taken a while.  If it was not for the size thing, I would say the Dura-glove would take little break in. I get a very clean release with it.
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Post by: BDann on August 22, 2013, 09:04:00 AM
My family and I all use dura gloves.  They are comfortable to shoot right away.  They also are tough, and last a long time.
Title: Re: Going from tab to glove, first time need some advice.
Post by: V I Archer on August 22, 2013, 07:16:00 PM
I like the Howard Hill Deluxe glove.  Heavy leather with nylon inserts.
Title: Re: Going from tab to glove, first time need some advice.
Post by: Timbuck2 on October 31, 2013, 03:44:00 PM
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Originally posted by danseitz:
I could never shoot with a tab.  Have no idea how people shoot them.  I use a Berlin glove from 3 Rivers.  Has a little extra leather on the finger tips.  Good feel of the string.
Same here,I tried a tab more than once and never was comfortable with it.
I have mostly used Berlin gloves over the years and now curious about the crossover glove after reading this thread.
Title: Re: Going from tab to glove, first time need some advice.
Post by: Bob Baur on October 31, 2013, 04:03:00 PM
I don't like gloves, to hot/confining especially in summer.

I use the Black Widow Stick Tite glove. It is by far the best glove I have ever used. No more tapping my shoulder & the nylon on the tips affords a super smooth release & zero finger fatigue.

 (https://blackwidowbows.com/image/cache/data/200%20series/213_large_DSC_0087-500x500.jpg)
Title: Re: Going from tab to glove, first time need some advice.
Post by: Plumber on October 31, 2013, 04:36:00 PM
dura glove all the way. I love them they hold up great.for me the Damascus glove is too thin an if it gets wet it drys hard an they wear out too quick.the duragloves leather is a little heavier it takes water or morning dew better an stays soft.however a lot of people do like the Damascus glove.one other thing the Damascus is also affected by sweat quicker.I would also stay away from gloves with mole skin tips they feel great an you get a great release off of them but they wear out too quick.gloves arnt too expensive buy two an try them out we all have a different feel.hope I was some help take.good luck