Trad Gang
Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: Pivo on August 20, 2013, 10:17:00 PM
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I am a long draw guy. Have only been shooting trad (longbows) for about a year. I am wondering when you see a bow marked 59#@30" or similiar, is that going to shoot better than a bow marked 52#@ 28" that would be almost the same weight at 30". Did the bowyer craft that bow to be drawn longer? Would it be worth it to have a bow made for my draw length of 30"? thanks guys and btw this is a great site.
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I say yes! Why do I say yes? Because I have a 31" draw. Before I was a bowyer I had a hard time finding a bow that felt smooth at my draw. I pulled a lot of really nice bows built by very respected bowyers. The problem was for me it seemed most were built for the average draw of around 28". That same bow that felt great at 28" draw felt bad at my draw and didn't seem to shoot as well for me. Im not meaning to offend any other bowyers, there are a lot of very good ones out there. I will admit I havnt pulled all the bow makes in the world. Im only going to say this, I do design a smooth bow for the long draw guy because I am one. My advice is try a lot of bows within the draw you are looking for. You will find that one that feels right and shoots good. And yes this is a great site with a great admin and great sponsors.
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I draw an honest 30" draw and after having two recurves blow up in my face I can say without a doubt YES the bow needs to me MADE for your draw and not just marked 59#@30". I'd like to get a recurve sometime soon but me and whoever the bowyer is will need to have a long talk. Bloody noses and fingers to the eye don't make shooting fun!!!! In fact I'm thankful I'm thinkful I can still seen after the last one.
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I'm interested to know something: Other than making a bow longer in length for a longer DL, what else is done in a design to make a bow better for a longer DL?
Bisch
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Originally posted by Bisch:
I'm interested to know something: Other than making a bow longer in length for a longer DL, what else is done in a design to make a bow better for a longer DL?
Bisch
I've wondered this myself.
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Blaino, I'm thinking you must have gotten bows made specifically for short draw (26" or less). I draw only 29", but I can draw all my bows , and I have more than a couple, back behind my ear with no severe stacking. I had one short bow (52") that I really hated to sell, but it did stack badly at 29.5" which is what I was drawing when shooting right-handed. I also owned a very long riser longbow with short limbs that stacked for me around 29".
I know there are bows being made for guys with shorter draws to maximize power at their draw lengths, but I would think you would notice quite a bit of stacking if you intentionally draw them long.
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Originally posted by Bisch:
I'm interested to know something: Other than making a bow longer in length for a longer DL, what else is done in a design to make a bow better for a longer DL?
Bisch
Hopefully a bowyer will be able to give us some answers. I would think they could change the working part of them limbs by changing riser length or wedges to help with different draw lengths. Short and long...
Bladepeek- I guess that is possible but the bowyer was very aware of my draw and the bows were marked ...#@30" :dunno:
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I am just a hobby bowyer but to answer Bisch's question, good custom bowyers build to the customers specific draw length. This especially important when building all-wood laminated bows and self bows. I have not built a self-bow but I have built quite a few laminated all wood bows. There are many things that can be done to help accommodate both the short draw and the long draw archer. Riser length, limb width, the amount of reflex and/or deflex, wedges, etc. all must be managed and adjusted to get the desired results. Most of that comes only with experience in building. This is exactly why the really good bowyers truly deserve the prices they ask.
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Yes, eflanders mentioned most of the design construction. I may add limb design and where the limb stores its energy and the gain rate per inch.
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TTT
I'd like to hear from other bowyers also.
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Originally posted by Bisch:
I'm interested to know something: Other than making a bow longer in length for a longer DL, what else is done in a design to make a bow better for a longer DL?
Bisch
This is interesting......
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I'm certainly not a bowyer but an ILF set up would show you that a longer or shorter limb on a particular riser will match the peak weight at the draw length of the shooter.
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Originally posted by Bisch:
I'm interested to know something: Other than making a bow longer in length for a longer DL, what else is done in a design to make a bow better for a longer DL?
Bisch
thats exactly what I am asking. If no difference then I can keep purchasing used bows from the classifieds!!!!!