I just recently acquired a new long bow. It a toelke whip 43 at 26. I'm pulling around 27" and shooting A gold tip 600 spine arra 29.25" with a 145gr head and 3 4" lw shield cut feathers. I'm shooting sub 2" groups at 20 yard with this bow however I'm 8" to the left and dead nuts up and down! Any ideas out there? I need to get er lined up before sept 7 th! Thanks.
If you shoot RH, I'd say your arrows are too stiff. But it sounds like they're spines right for your setup.
I meant, it sounds like they're spined correctly.
Are you a righty or lefty? Do you have any other point weights to try? If so, go heavier or lighter and see if there is any difference and go from there.
keep shooting, it will come over.
Nope, them arras are too stiff. Try 175-190 grain point weight! Shawn
I shoot right handed, I've tried some heads 20 grains heavier and didn't seem to have an affect. I will try some really heavy in the morning! Thanks for the replies and keep the advice coming! Thanks
Try to lower your brace hight by three or four twist.
what kind of strike plate material are you using?
if you use a thin hard strike plate it will move those arrows to your right vs a thicker soft strike like velcro.... If folks paid more attention to their strike plate material and location, it would sure save a lot of arrow tuning for them.... food for thought... kirk
More point weight. I'm shooting the same GT 600's cut to 29.25" with 175 grains up front out of a 49# Two Tracks Longwalker longbow. Flying like a dream.
A softer strike plate material will move them to the right I think. You may be anchoring the arrow to the side of your eye instead of right below it.
By the way, 2" groups at 20 yards is incredibly good shooting. That's better than most folks shooting full blown Fita rigs at my club.
QuoteOriginally posted by Tedd:
keep shooting, it will come over.
X2 on this just tried a non center cut jd berry for the first time, took me a few rounds but they came around
Would suspect that an ~250 gn pt would be close.
Call Dan Toelke. He is very easy to talk to and extremely helpful. He knows his bows and will have you shooting straight in no time.
I'm taking a different route . Maybe it's not the bow. It could be where you placing your anchor point. If your shooting and your fingers are somewhere on the side of your face it will make your arrow hit to the left. If this is the case try moving your anchor point closer to the center of your face. Kind of next to your nose under your eye. See if that helps bring them over to the right.
Thanks for all the info men! Will I get poor flight if I go with say that 190-250 grain head when my arra weighs in at 250 ish grains?
No, that is why some of are recommending more point weight. A fletched shaft is hard to tell if you are getting good flight as feathers hide a llot of issues. You could be plucking the string a bit as well and that will cause youto shoot left, hand maybe not coming back but flying away from face at release. Sorry but by just shooting the bow over and over you will bring it to the right and closer to the spot but that is just because your brain will adjust and compensate for you. Shawn
I'm agreeing with kirk on this...more can be done with your plate than most want to admit.
Arrows sound fine. Agree on the strike plate. I would first try a thinner one if possible. Or if it is thin now it may simply be that your shelf on the Whip isn't cut the same way as your old bow was and you will have to adjust your mind to the new point of impact. All bows don't shoot in the same place.
I am with Kirk on this one, all Toelkes I have owned came with a thin leather for strike plate material. A soft piece of velcro will more it over some. Good luck.
Try replacing your strike plate with the soft side of velcro and if you still need to move more try the Bear rug rest material.
There are a few ways to move your point of impact. The first, obviously, is point weight. Heavier will move the impact point to the right for you. Raising your brace height will also move it right. And, as others have said, so will thinning your side plate. All of these things will change the tune of your bow.
Before I started doing all of that, though, I'd see how my fletched arrows hit in comparison to a bare shaft. That will tell the real tale. Make sure your broadheads are hitting with them, too.
If they are hitting with the the bareshafts, then they are hitting where they should, you are just aiming a touch to the left. To fix the problem, make sure your dominant eye is directly above the shaft. If you have a good anchor point, one that is tight to your face, all you need to do is just lean slightly more to the right. Just bending your head might work, but it's best to bend a touch more from the waist.
Remember, too, like TJ said, if the bow is set up correctly, and you have good form, it might just take a little while to adjust your mind to the arrow flight.
Thanks again for all the help! I work second shift and this morning was a washout! Too much rain for even me to shoot in! The strike play is a thin sponge feeling material? Not sure maybe seal? I'm going to give everyone's thoughts a whirl ASAP! Thanks again, this is an awesome web sight!
When I shoot left its usually that I'm not maintaining proper back tension. But when I'm using proper back tension I'm on.