Hey gang, I've been debating on trying these heads out this year and I wanted to see if anyone has bad any experience with them. How do they fly and are they easy to resharpen? Thanks!
A buddy of mine shoots them and they fly well for him. They are also easy to sharpen.
Dr ashby tested them, not the best for massive Asian buffalo , they collapse and deform on heavy bone impact
They fly just like field points for me, I have the SS model. They weren't all that sharp out of the package and were kind of a pain to get sharp.
I tried them years ago, I never bought more than the original package. I can recommend the NAP Hellrazer for 3 blade screw on broadheads. The Hellrazers are tough as nails and are easy to get sharp.
I tried some when they first came out and I could not get them hunting sharp for the life of me (probably user error). They spun true and flew nice but they did not work out for me.
I shot them several years ago, and I found them hard to get really sharp although the method (flat file/diamond hone 2 edges at a time) is pretty easy, just takes a while. Since have come to favor 2-blade heads, currently Simmons and/or Grizzly. A lot more finesse in the sharpening methods, but yow :scared: do they get sharp and go through deer!
If you go with the Montec I would advise you get the carbon steel version (Montec CS). I used them a few years back with a compound and they are good flying heads but a little loud in flight, but not really any louder than other vented heads I've tried. I had a heck of a time getting the stainless Montecs sharp and never used them. The carbon steel is much easier to sharpen.
You don't say what weight you are looking for, if I remember right the Montec CSs that I have are 125 grains (might have been 100gr). I think they are a good head but I would go with the 125gr. Woodsman Elite or 125gr. VPA for a good three blade over the Montec, just my opinion. I killed a nice buck with the Montec so I know they work...admittedly with a compound so take that for what it's worth... :saywhat:
I'd do Snuffers instead of the Montecs. Easier to sharpen.
Quotethey are good flying heads but a little loud in flight,
That is my experience also.
They are a good head, I have killed several hogs and deer with them. I did not find them hard to sharpen at all. Penetration was very good out of 50 to 55 pound bows.
I tried them a few years ago and I must have got a bad batch. They all broke where the base of the blade connects the rear of the ferrule. That was just shooting them for a few days into a block target. None of them had any type of hard impact. They did fly well though.
A friend of mine used them and had a head break when it hit hard bone, I would avoid them based on his experience.
Powdered Metal
The 3 blade injection molded heads, and the small game heads I have used. They break rather easily and I've had the broadheads break at the threads and I quit using them. WEAK IMO
yup i say they are not my cup of tea
I do not know what type of powdered steel they are made from, but some of the best tool steel is powdered and also used for very good knives. For example S30V is a very popular powdered steel used in high end knives. I have not experienced breakage either, even hitting the shoulder bone.
I know a few people that like them and use them. I have not heard of any issues with them. I don't know what they consider sharp so can't comment on that subject. I personally would go the Woodsman route or WW elite / VPA. I know those can get sharp and they are easy to do two blades at a time. The elite / VPA heads are durable.
Good broadhead. I missed a buck once and centered a small tree (2"-3" thick) the broadhead went straight through I unscrewed it pulled the arrow out. Re sharpened it and it was good as new. I wouldn't hesitate to use them again.
I've shot 3 or 4 deer with them, great head. I started shooting muzzy phantoms because they were easier to sharpen.
I used them and found their design would not let them get very sharp. The shorter heads get the greater the angle edge. Lengthen them like a woodsman and they are great. Shorten them and they are not sharp. I punched through the chest and found very little blood. Found the deer the next morning and no blood around her.
Quite a few years back I got some on the st Jude's auction. I got 2 and 3 blade version. I shot my first traditional deer with the 2 blade. Sot clean through her. Didn't even know she was hit. Stood there. Fell over. Still have those heads. Still sharp. Same year I shot another with the 3 blade similar story. Deer went 10 yards. The tip broke off guessing in the ground. I still use that same head for rabbits, and grouse during the elk season. Probably shot a dozen rabbits and grouse with the same head. I wouldn't hesitate with deer. Or smaller stuff. But probably wouldn't consider it with elk.
Before I got serious about my "trad journey", I used nothing but Montecs with the compound with about 12% FOC. From my experience: Killed probably 20 deer total and the longest blood trail was about 80 yards from hit site to downed deer. All were chest shots contacting rib bones, except one shot through the scapula, high angle close to the tree-deer. Saw a bit of tip curl on one deer and killed multiple deer with the same head. Can't comment on heavy bone hits but ALL shots were pass throughs with good to great blood trails. Sharpening: seemed hard to get them as sharp as I now get my Tuffheads but I used to be alot more "sharpening challenged". The flat stone sharpening seen on G5's website does work well. If I went back compound (Ya! like THAT's going to happen!) I would go back to the Montecs.
I used them for a season when I hunted with a compound. Needless to say I was not impressed. But I know guys that swear by them.
I found them to be fairly durable out of a compound but frankly they're quite expensive. With so many good options out there I have trouble spending the money on them.
With that said, they're fairly small and I found they fly well. I have a few left and I use them, but won't be purchasing any more.
I'd rather buy 6 zwickey deltas and lunch with my $30
I've used them and they flew great. I shot a turkey and a large buck with my trad bow with them. They worked just fine for me.
I agree the stainless are tough to sharpen. The semi barb design is hard on layered targets when you remove the arrow. They offer a practice head, so you do not have to use a hunting head.