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Title: would you shoot this doe ?
Post by: hnt2mch on August 18, 2013, 09:34:00 AM
we got pics of her 2 years ago none last year but again this year.i sent the pics to our loacl bioligists and had 2 reply saying that there would be nothing wrong with the meat as other than the growth she is a healthy deer.they said nothing as to wether this was a genetic thing that could be passed on.

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 (http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g193/hnt2mch/2013%20cam%20pics/MDGC0358_zpsfdf7c5db.jpg) (http://s56.photobucket.com/user/hnt2mch/media/2013%20cam%20pics/MDGC0358_zpsfdf7c5db.jpg.html)

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Title: Re: would you shoot this doe ?
Post by: jonsimoneau on August 18, 2013, 09:46:00 AM
My buddy shot one like that. The meat is fine.
Title: Re: would you shoot this doe ?
Post by: hnt2mch on August 18, 2013, 09:48:00 AM
thats what they said but she sure ain't no looker lol
Title: Re: would you shoot this doe ?
Post by: Izzy on August 18, 2013, 09:50:00 AM
It's a virus. We use to see it around here more frequently. They're goof to go, I'd shoot and eat. She's pretty big.
Title: Re: would you shoot this doe ?
Post by: 59Alaskan on August 18, 2013, 10:30:00 AM
I'd go for the broadside on the bunny!!!

Does look like a healthy deer, but reminds me too much of my father...he had a massive cancerous growth in his cheek.  They removed it and he's cancer free today, but it still looks too much like that for me....

I'd go with the biologist though.
Title: Re: would you shoot this doe ?
Post by: Burnsie on August 18, 2013, 10:34:00 AM
That looks nasty,  but I'd shoot it.
Title: Re: would you shoot this doe ?
Post by: Azwatasha on August 18, 2013, 10:40:00 AM
One more step forward then BLAM!
Title: Re: would you shoot this doe ?
Post by: hnt2mch on August 18, 2013, 10:45:00 AM
she's down in a salt lick,cancer is what i thought of when i seen it ceme24
Title: Re: would you shoot this doe ?
Post by: on August 18, 2013, 10:58:00 AM
"Lumpy Jaw" is caused by an arterial worm. The worm causes partial paralysis of jaw muscles. Food gets stuck in the deers mouth between the jaw and gum and it causes an abcess like huge lump. Most lumpy jaw looks like this:

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I have shot and eaten a deer like this with no ill effects. Your deer looks like it has something different though, as the lump is all black and nasty looking.

Bisch
Title: Re: would you shoot this doe ?
Post by: The Vanilla Gorilla on August 18, 2013, 11:01:00 AM
Heck yeah I'd eat it!  Drain the pus out of that pocket to use as gravey!
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Post by: mcgroundstalker on August 18, 2013, 11:23:00 AM
You don't have to kiss her! Just make meat out of her...  :dunno:

... mike ...
Title: Re: would you shoot this doe ?
Post by: groundhawg on August 18, 2013, 11:29:00 AM
If it is what Bisch said, I dont think eating it would be a great idea. A jaw/tooth/mouth abcess would spread infection throughout the bloodstream and in turn the tissues.  I'm not sure that without encapsulation of an infection/abcess the deer could live. I may shoot but probably would not eat it.
Title: Re: would you shoot this doe ?
Post by: daveycrockett on August 18, 2013, 11:35:00 AM
:saywhat:    :confused:  Don't think I'd eat it.
Title: Re: would you shoot this doe ?
Post by: hnt2mch on August 18, 2013, 11:44:00 AM
one biologist said he thought it was a "cutaneous fibroma".  and the other said he thought it to be an enlarged wart.both said no problem as far as eating the meat.jsut wondered how many of ya'll wouldn't have a problem with it.i know the first time i evver seen a wolf come out of a squirrel in early season it put me off of that paticular tree rat.
Title: Re: would you shoot this doe ?
Post by: hnt2mch on August 18, 2013, 11:45:00 AM
they did say something about the lumpy jaw but didn't think that was the case in this doe bisch
Title: Re: would you shoot this doe ?
Post by: Wannabe1 on August 18, 2013, 12:57:00 PM
She looks to be healthy, and I'm not a biologist so, I would probably pass. If it looked like she was suffering, then I'd do the humane thing but, would not eat.   :thumbsup:
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Post by: Tradbear55 on August 18, 2013, 02:44:00 PM
I would shoot it and eat it.
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Post by: Josh Perdue on August 18, 2013, 02:59:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by The Vanilla Gorilla:
Heck yeah I'd eat it!  Drain the pus out of that pocket to use as gravey!
WOW, that's classic     hahaha
Title: Re: would you shoot this doe ?
Post by: BuckeyeGuy on August 18, 2013, 05:49:00 PM
Drain the puss out and use it as gravy.  That was gross and funny at the same time.  Nice on V Gorilla..
Title: Re: would you shoot this doe ?
Post by: Kingsnake on August 18, 2013, 08:35:00 PM
What's the big deal?  I got a buddy that chews tobacco and he looks like that all the time!     :p

Kingsnake
Title: Re: would you shoot this doe ?
Post by: Knawbone on August 18, 2013, 08:50:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by The Vanilla Gorilla:
Heck yeah I'd eat it!  Drain the pus out of that pocket to use as gravey!
Now thats funny right there!   :biglaugh:
Title: Re: would you shoot this doe ?
Post by: on August 18, 2013, 08:54:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by groundhawg:
If it is what Bisch said, I dont think eating it would be a great idea. A jaw/tooth/mouth abcess would spread infection throughout the bloodstream and in turn the tissues.  I'm not sure that without encapsulation of an infection/abcess the deer could live. I may shoot but probably would not eat it.
No that is not correct. The Lumpy Jaw  does not affect the meat in any way from everything I have read. Like I said, I shot and ate one with Lumpy Jaw about 17-20yrs ago and I'm still kicking!

Bisch
Title: Re: would you shoot this doe ?
Post by: Shawn Leonard on August 18, 2013, 09:04:00 PM
Don'tlook like lumpy jaw, moreso a wart. I have shot quite a few over the years with warts some so bad you could not really tell their head from the wart. I have eaten all of them with no ill effects. Shawn
Title: Re: would you shoot this doe ?
Post by: groundhawg on August 18, 2013, 09:43:00 PM
"No that is not correct. The Lumpy Jaw  does not affect the meat in any way from everything I have read. Like I said, I shot and ate one with Lumpy Jaw about 17-20yrs ago and I'm still kicking!

Bisch"

Yea your still alive but aint been the same since.     :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: would you shoot this doe ?
Post by: Cyclic-Rivers on August 18, 2013, 09:56:00 PM
This deer as you say has been alive three years.  I think she's fine.

I would shoot and eat! I'd try for the rabbit also.
Title: Re: would you shoot this doe ?
Post by: Fletcher on August 18, 2013, 10:06:00 PM
Yes.    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: would you shoot this doe ?
Post by: Thumper Dunker on August 18, 2013, 10:17:00 PM
I would go for the rabbit but not the doe. We can't shoot does here. I think she would be fine to eat. Ate coyotes that looked worse. JK on the coyotes.
Title: Re: would you shoot this doe ?
Post by: BWD on August 18, 2013, 10:43:00 PM
I wouldn't shoot her at that angle, but if she would turn a little bit...
Title: Re: would you shoot this doe ?
Post by: Big Lefty on August 18, 2013, 10:45:00 PM
I answered "yes" before I saw the picture.  After viewing the picture, my answer remains the same!
Title: Re: would you shoot this doe ?
Post by: Steve Jr on August 18, 2013, 10:47:00 PM
Thumper you eat coyotes! Do they taste like chicken?   :laughing:   As for the doe I would eat that!
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Post by: refugerambler on August 18, 2013, 11:03:00 PM
Is that pic from here in north Alabama?
Title: Re: would you shoot this doe ?
Post by: Gen273 on August 18, 2013, 11:14:00 PM
Yes, I killed a little buck like that years ago.
Title: Re: would you shoot this doe ?
Post by: stik&string on August 19, 2013, 12:46:00 AM
I would shoot and when butchering her I would pay close attention to the meat. If it looks fine I'd have no problem.
Title: Re: would you shoot this doe ?
Post by: Ray Hammond on August 19, 2013, 04:55:00 AM
that's a tumor-like growth, not lumpy jaw. The meat is fine.
Title: Re: would you shoot this doe ?
Post by: hnt2mch on August 19, 2013, 09:42:00 AM
refugerambler the doe pic is from lamar county i from up this way though over in town creek in lawrence co.
Title: Re: would you shoot this doe ?
Post by: Canadian Idle on August 19, 2013, 01:08:00 PM
There's an old saying " you are what you eat".....and I've been called worse. LOL.  AND...I've eaten things that look a lot worse than that as well. Now for the PUSS part ?????   :biglaugh:    :biglaugh:    :laughing:
Title: Re: would you shoot this doe ?
Post by: GANGGREEN on August 19, 2013, 01:33:00 PM
A fibroma is like a wart.  That's what it is and the deer's completely safe to eat.
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Post by: pete p on August 19, 2013, 03:29:00 PM
that doe gets around the block. thats a bad case of herpes. shoot.
Title: Re: would you shoot this doe ?
Post by: KOOK68 on August 19, 2013, 05:27:00 PM
I've seen it before, and people in the know say fibroma also. No effect on the meat, other than psychological
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Post by: Sixby on August 19, 2013, 05:43:00 PM
NO way do I kill that deer for food. Shoot the bunny.

God bless, Steve
Title: Re: would you shoot this doe ?
Post by: Shawn Leonard on August 19, 2013, 05:52:00 PM
She has one on her ear as well, it is a type of wart. As I said before shoot her and enjoy the meat! Shawn