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Title: Soverign Ballistic
Post by: LYONEL on August 15, 2013, 03:48:00 PM
Soverign Ballistic, how do they rate & what would a good second hand one be worth?
Title: Re: Soverign Ballistic
Post by: Bjorn on August 15, 2013, 04:16:00 PM
A friend has one that I have shot a number of times.........I rate it right up there-great bow. No idea of value; purely a matter of 'I want it'.
Title: Re: Soverign Ballistic
Post by: heydeerman on August 15, 2013, 07:34:00 PM
There is a lot that goes into the answer to that question.

What are the woods?
What is the length and draw weight?
How does the finish look?
How many scars?

I just sold one that was near perfect for $500.
Title: Re: Soverign Ballistic
Post by: Butchie on August 15, 2013, 07:34:00 PM
No idea on price but they were always very highly spoken of.  In a word...FAST!
Title: Re: Soverign Ballistic
Post by: Tajue17 on August 15, 2013, 07:49:00 PM
I had one that that I traded which had the triple flare with Burl cocobolo and tiger maple riser, Tonkin cores with tiger maple veneers that cost me 1250.00 when the new black widows where 920.00 so if I still had it I'd try to get 600  but wouldn't sell it for any less than 500.00 and I think its just because I was the original buyer and its age now.   if you find someone who picked one up used it may be a lot cheaper but John made A grade wood bows and he made AAA grade wood bows, and because he passed away I'd say that ups the value too if you find something unique..
Title: Re: Soverign Ballistic
Post by: Bear Heart on August 15, 2013, 08:04:00 PM
Fantastic design,  fast and smooth. Poor finish.  Benefit from the addition of materials that add torsional stability. Do not ever string it by any means other than the selway cup and block, which he included with the bow.
I used a tip to tip one time on it. Popped out of the stringer and my limbs were toast. Delaminated on the next pull back. Was my favorite bow. I still have the riser with a set of limbs a fellow tradganger graciously made for me.
Title: Re: Soverign Ballistic
Post by: Bear Heart on August 15, 2013, 08:06:00 PM
Mine cost $525 new in 2008. Bubinga riser, shedua limbs, bamboo cores. No frills hunting bow.
Title: Re: Soverign Ballistic
Post by: LYONEL on August 15, 2013, 08:17:00 PM
It is 62@28 & 62" not sure on wood bit looks to be in pretty good condition.  (http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd377/0419falcon/null-17.jpg)
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Post by: Festivus on August 15, 2013, 09:02:00 PM
Wow! That is an awesome bow. I really wish someone would bring it back.
Title: Re: Soverign Ballistic
Post by: Bear Heart on August 15, 2013, 09:07:00 PM
Defective.  Wrong handed.
Title: Re: Soverign Ballistic
Post by: Bear Heart on August 15, 2013, 09:10:00 PM
I have been keeping an eye on a particular bowyer that may be rolling out something very similar.
Title: Re: Soverign Ballistic
Post by: Sixby on August 15, 2013, 09:35:00 PM
The Storm Eagle is very close but I changed the interior build to get better stability. I just developed a new limb off of that that I am testing to work both on top mount and belly mount.; Will be hunting with it this season and making some minor changes.
God Bless, Steve
 (http://eaglewingarchery.i8.com/images/Lippe/Lippe%201.jpg)
Title: Re: Soverign Ballistic
Post by: Bear Heart on August 15, 2013, 10:16:00 PM
Didn't want to out your bow before it was ready Steve.  But now you have let the cat out of the bag.
Title: Re: Soverign Ballistic
Post by: Bear Heart on August 15, 2013, 10:55:00 PM
Mine before the tragedy. (http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn225/barnardtimothy/600491_3607300534509_1580666318_n1_zpse74b8eaa.jpg)
Title: Re: Soverign Ballistic
Post by: Sixby on August 16, 2013, 01:31:00 AM
No problem, I could not let such a fine limb design go into oblivion. However I am now working on improving that. I really want the dynamics of that limb in a belly mount bow.
I have been blessed to have several sold already as soon as I get it tested and refined. There always seems to be room for improvement.
God bless, Steve
Title: Re: Soverign Ballistic
Post by: cacciatore on August 16, 2013, 02:53:00 AM
I am been thinking about one of John's bows for year,but I waited too much   :banghead:   They always had a great reputation.
Title: Re: Soverign Ballistic
Post by: michaelschwister on August 16, 2013, 05:58:00 AM
If you find one, buy it!
Title: Re: Soverign Ballistic
Post by: hockey7 on August 16, 2013, 07:18:00 AM
Lyonel...that is a beauty. Scoop it up before someone else does. I have a 60", 53@28 and it's everything you want in a bow. Smooth draw, dead at the shot, fast. John was a very gifted bowyer.
Title: Re: Soverign Ballistic
Post by: pamike on August 16, 2013, 02:05:00 PM
Can't wait for Steve's belly mounted version!

I think all I have seen were very heavy in draw weights - never found one I could try.

Mike
Title: Re: Soverign Ballistic
Post by: LYONEL on August 16, 2013, 04:11:00 PM
It was on the big auction site, Iwas keen but I got cold feet  at the end not knowing how well the bow had been looked after or strung. I went to $500 & it sold  for $520. Bit disappointed i didn't go a bit more. Maybe next time.
Title: Re: Soverign Ballistic
Post by: DawgDoc on August 16, 2013, 04:36:00 PM
Lyonel - there is a used one on the RMS gear website right now if you still have the itch for one and its close to your price above.

Never got the chance to shoot one but always heard nothing but great things.

Here's the link:
https://www.rmsgear.com/bowshop_inventory.html
Title: Re: Soverign Ballistic
Post by: toehead on August 16, 2013, 04:44:00 PM
I think It was the fastest web Blacky rated it?  I have one and its still the best bow I've ever shot bar none
Title: Re: Soverign Ballistic
Post by: LYONEL on August 16, 2013, 07:34:00 PM
Thanks for the heads up Dawgdoc but I have already seen that one & it's not as pretty. If that bow was on Tradgang classifieds & from someone I've dealt with before that I could trust I would have paid around $600+ , knowing that I could believe the condition of the bow was correct. But when it's on the Auction site & the listing says no refunds I get a bit worried & pull back on what I would normally be prepared to pay. Anyway like I said maybe next time.
Title: Re: Soverign Ballistic
Post by: heydeerman on August 17, 2013, 08:26:00 AM
I had a 64" Ballistik at one time. Man what a bow. I sold it thinking I needed a shorter bow.    :knothead: