I've never gotten anything so sharp in my life.
Well, credit goes to the head...I just knocked the burr off. I used a file, crock stick, and a few strops on leather. Didn't take but a couple minutes.
I could shave my face with these things. And slicing sliver after sliver of paper gets boring it's so easy.
Anyway, just thought I'd share. I don't claim to be an authority on sharpening, but this single bevel head makes it easy. Kudos to the new Grizzlies.
I have a set on the way. Hoping for the same experience.
Grizzly El Grande and the new Grizzly Kodiak are my favs...in right bevel!
Keep the wind in your face!
Shoot straight, Shinken
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Yep. Bill Dunn has done a fine job improving the Grizzly broadheads. :thumbsup: :notworthy: :notworthy:
Bill
Where did you buy them?
A KME sharpening system works very well on Grizzlys. I use a couple of grades of diamond hones an India stone and then strop with some white gold on either cardboard or a piece of leather glued to a 1x4. They get so sharp that just lightly brushing my arm hair shaves it.
Thinking about trying em' this year....What ferrule are ya'll using with em' ? Final weight?
Thanks, Jr.
They come in 120,130,160 and 200 grs so with various weight adapters,you can make almost any weight broadhead you want.
Agreed!! Bill has done an amazing job. I has amazing results last year on 4 deer with the same 200 grain head.
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Where did you buy them?
From Zipper. Just google Grizzly Broadhead and it's the first hit.
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Thinking about trying em' this year....What ferrule are ya'll using with em' ? Final weight?
Thanks, Jr.
I used a 140 grain Grizzly coupled with a 36 grain x-long 11/32 adapter from Braveheart Archery to get a finished weight of 175 grains.
What I like about single bevel heads, is that often we get holes that are much wider than the broadhead width.
I love them too. They fly great and with the KME sharpener and some diamond stones I can get them super sharp. Great heads.
Jeff, many people have told me that they can get these heads silly sharp with ease. Its great to see all of our hard work panning out for our customers. I'm glad you guys are enjoying your Grizzly broadheads!
We have a new weight Grizzly coming out. They are 185 grains. This head has been impressive so far. It is 60 thousands thick. The extra steel thickness has yielded a bevel that is right at 3/16" wide.This extra bevel width means extra twisting force when resistance is encountered during penetration.
We do not have these heads on grizzlybroadheads.com yet. We just got them back from the Teflon coaters last monday but we do have several ground.If some one wants to give them a try.
I will try to get a picture of them up in a bit.
Bill
Sounds great Bill. What is the width of the 185?
They are the same over all dimensions as the other Grizzly's. The 185 grain are just thicker steel. That makes the cutting width 1 1/8".
Bill
Sounds like a great addition to the line.
Killed two deer with the 130's last year.
At $40 for six of them will all the improvements they are hard to beat. EASY to get crazy sharp, Teflon coated and the molds are very true that they have all spun perfectly for me.
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Killed two deer with the 130's last year.
At $40 for six of them will all the improvements they are hard to beat. EASY to get crazy sharp, Teflon coated and the molds are very true that they have all spun perfectly for me.
Yep, mine mounted easily and spun true.
I couldn't agree more! I think these are the easiest broadheads on the market to get sharp. I got some 160 on Friday... Mounted one right away and it spun perfect first try! Then took a 6" file and knoced the factory burr off. They would cut hair then, but grabbed the steel from the kitchen knife rack.... A couple passes with that.... Then a couple passes on some cardboard. That's it! Maybe 5 min. More like 3-4. It took the hair right off and left some razor burn as well. VERY HAPPY with these heads.
Come on Aug. 15! My freezer is empty and my Grizzlys want to eat!!
Yep, they are great broadheads !!!
I've killed a few critters with them and have always been impressed..
Bill has done an outstanding job on the Grizzley heads.The only way that he could improve on them now,is to hand them out free :biglaugh:
Have mine surgical sharp with the KME broadhead sharpener.Great stuff.
Bill--will you ever come out with 1-piece screw-in broadheads? Thanks!
To have a screw-in all you have to do is mount them on an adapter.With the improved ferrule of the Grizzly,it is a snap to get them mounted and spinning true.It also gives you the ability mount your broadhead horizontally,vertically or however you want it if your arrows already have inserts glued in.Adapters come in several weights and different metals so you can customize the broadhead weight,making the glue-in a way more versatile option.
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I will echo all the praises above for the quality and ease of sharpening of the new Grizzly heads.
I had a chance to try out the new 185 gr head this weekend and was extremely impressed. With the added blade thickness these are one tuff looking broadhead. I weighed the broadhead before mounting it and it weighed 184.5 gr on my digital scale...about as close as you can get to an advertised weight. I put it on a 75 gr steel adapter and it mounted up great and spun perfectly. Final weight was 259 gr. I wanted to sharpen the head before shooting it just to see how easily it sharpened. First I removed the burr by laying the flat side on a fine diamond stone and giving it about 10 back and forth strokes. I then put the head in my KME broadhead sharpener and gave the beveled side about 15 light strokes which pushed a very small burr back to the flat side which I took off with a few strokes on a leather strop. Start to finish maybe 1 minute and the head was surgical sharp. I'd post pics but I don't want anyone getting cut :saywhat:
I had little doubt that the broadhead would shoot great based on my past experience with Grizzly heads but just to confirm I shot the head side by side with my field tips (250 gr) and had I not known the head was on one of the arrows would not have known the difference...perfect flight.
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Bill--will you ever come out with 1-piece screw-in broadheads? Thanks!
We will. I have to get a screw machine first. That way I can produce the inserts myself. I have looked into a few different options already. CNC heads are very expensive to have built if you dont own a cnc machine.
I have had some steel inserts welded into the Grizzly's at the same time as the halves were welded. That way the steel insert would be heat treated also. It worked pretty well but there were some gaps around the inserts at the back of the heads. Even though they were welded in and quite strong I dont think guys would like the looks of that.
I have looked into other options as well but have not yet decided on the best option yet. The main hold up is a screw machine. Unfortunately they dont just give those away. :D
Every time I see that photo Jim. I just shake my head in amazement. It had to take some time to hone that entire bevel. That is one heck of a picture.
Aaron, You are the first to get a hold of the 185 grain Grizzly. It seems we have the same impression of them. I can hardly wait to send one through a critter.
Thanks guys for all of your responses.
Thank you Jeff for letting me piggy back on your thread.
I will try to get some pictures of the 185 grain tomorrow. Tracy is not here to post them for me tonight.
I have noticed the new ones made by zipper hold a hunting indge much longer then the last owner. I have some in a quiver fromt last year that have been shot into a foam target many times, yet are still able to shave hair. They are harder to get the original edge (like the very first grizzlys) but theu really hold it. I use just a small BH file.
"Every time I see that photo Jim. I just shake my head in amazement. It had to take some time to hone that entire bevel. That is one heck of a picture."
It didn't take as long as you might think.I worked them first on a coarse diamond hone and from there it is a snap.Great broadheads.
I just mounted some Kodiak 200s on some Surewoods. I usually shoot VPA Terminators, but I thought I might give these a try and see if they might work for my elk arrows next year.
D.P.
All i know is i have been looking at single bevel heads for almost to years off and on and still not exactly sure if i want to try some or not.. UNTIL i read this thread. Ive heard nothing but good in the past and Thanks to you fellas for pushing over the edge. haha Ill be picking up some soon for sure.
QuoteOriginally posted by crafty:
All i know is i have been looking at single bevel heads for almost to years off and on and still not exactly sure if i want to try some or not.. UNTIL i read this thread. Ive heard nothing but good in the past and Thanks to you fellas for pushing over the edge. haha Ill be picking up some soon for sure.
I was in your same boat. Looking forward to getting them bloody now.
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Finally that picture I promised.This is the 185 Grain Grizzly with a steel adaptor.
Bill
Very mean looking head! Sorely tempted, but have a pile of sharps already.
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"I've never gotten anything so sharp in my life"There are a lot of people that struggle with getting Grizzly's (older models) sharp...I'm not one of them. The new Zipper Grizzly's are a huge improvement!
Great job Bill & Tracey!
Kris
:eek: Really like the looks of that one Bill !!!
Bill
I've been hesitant to get some as reviews I've read have said the adapters dont fit flush to the ferrules and that they are very dull requiring alot of attention. Are these now made different? Have I read some crazy reviews? Love to get some if I can be reassured as to their quality......as this thread is helping with
I've been hesitant to get some as reviews I've read have said the adapters dont fit flush to the ferrules and that they are very dull requiring alot of attention. Are these now made different? Have I read some crazy reviews? Love to get some if I can be reassured as to their quality......as this thread is helping with
QuoteOriginally posted by Stealth Man:
I've been hesitant to get some as reviews I've read have said the adapters dont fit flush to the ferrules and that they are very dull requiring alot of attention. Are these now made different? Have I read some crazy reviews? Love to get some if I can be reassured as to their quality......as this thread is helping with
Yes, these are different
[QUOTEI've been hesitant to get some as reviews I've read have said the adapters dont fit flush to the ferrules and that they are very dull requiring alot of attention. Are these now made different? Have I read some crazy reviews? Love to get some if I can be reassured as to their quality......as this thread is helping with[/QUOTE]
The pre-Zipper Grizzlies had a bevel that was not 25 degrees, and because of the hard steel required a fair amount of effort to get really sharp. The original Grizzlies also suffered from some fairly primitive construction. Ugly welds, braze runs, etc. I also found the heat treating to be inconsistent. A lot of us still persevered and used them because at the end of the day they were a solid performing head after they were 'cleaned up'.
The first thing i noticed with the Zipper Grizzlies was the clean rear edges (no stamping/machining edges) as well as the crisp spot welds and pre-set bevel.
I love the new Grizzlies, and am hoping to put one of the new 185's through some rigorous 'in the field' testing in another three plus weeks.
Great post Daz and I agree totally!
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Im glad I caught this post. I have wondered about the Grizzly Broadheads myself. I also have heard good and bad about the quality. Now that Bill is making them im sure they have the great quality that he has put in to his bows for years. Im often asked by my customers about broadheads. I have always suggested Zwickey's, and Magnus.Im going to have to give these new Grizzly's a try.
Mike
I never took pics of blood trails until I started getting Grizzlys sharpened right. The newer ones are easy. A buddy sent me a message the other day that he did a dz in an hour and his arms were bare. That's pretty great. 5 min a head...only using stones/sticks for a final edge.
Have some 185's on the way. Can't wait to see the thicker blades and work on that huge bevel.