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Title: Duct Tape fletch
Post by: Doods70 on August 02, 2013, 02:52:00 PM
Would you frown upon the idea of shooting next to someone using duct tape fletching in competition?

Been using them lately and seem to fly great. are there rules in place that will not allow them?

thanks
Title: Re: Duct Tape fletch
Post by: Zradix on August 02, 2013, 02:57:00 PM
I don't know about "rules"
and I don't care what someone else shoots.

But I'll bet a real feather will hold up and keep its shape much better.
Title: Re: Duct Tape fletch
Post by: Chromebuck on August 02, 2013, 03:12:00 PM
You know you're a redneck when....
Title: Re: Duct Tape fletch
Post by: Zradix on August 02, 2013, 03:15:00 PM
do they have red necks in the Philippines?
..lol
Title: Re: Duct Tape fletch
Post by: motorhead7963 on August 02, 2013, 04:33:00 PM
OK WHY duct tape??? is there no feathers available anywhere? or vanes for that matter?
Title: Re: Duct Tape fletch
Post by: njloco on August 02, 2013, 04:39:00 PM
Whatever  works  for  you.
Title: Re: Duct Tape fletch
Post by: Stixbowdrew on August 02, 2013, 04:43:00 PM
I have heard of 20ph tape but not 200fps tape, please explain
Title: Re: Duct Tape fletch
Post by: Doods70 on August 02, 2013, 05:20:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Zradix:
do they have red necks in the Philippines?
..lol
He he...there are no rednecks in the Philippines, but I know what it means having lived in LA for 10 years.
Title: Re: Duct Tape fletch
Post by: Doods70 on August 02, 2013, 05:22:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by motorhead7963:
OK WHY duct tape??? is there no feathers available anywhere? or vanes for that matter?
Hi, just experimenting...and they do fly great. Feathers and vanes are available but my daughter says I am a "bird"...because I'm cheap...cheap...cheap.
Title: Re: Duct Tape fletch
Post by: Zradix on August 02, 2013, 05:23:00 PM
lol
Title: Re: Duct Tape fletch
Post by: Doods70 on August 02, 2013, 05:27:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by njloco:
Whatever  works  for  you.
Thank you...hoping to figure out how to post a photo of the arrows I have been making. Just got pointed to this forum recently by friends doing Olympic Recurve and they knew I love barebow shooting. Just got a hold of beautiful solid bamboo shafts, heat tempered and straightened.I'm using a Howatt longbow 45lbs@28"
Title: Re: Duct Tape fletch
Post by: Doods70 on August 02, 2013, 05:31:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Zradix:
I don't know about "rules"
and I don't care what someone else shoots.

But I'll bet a real feather will hold up and keep its shape much better.
True...having tried feathers just recently. But very expensive over hear. May have to look for local suppliers here in the Phils. or just use chicken or duck feathers since they are cultured here. Thanks
Title: Re: Duct Tape fletch
Post by: ronp on August 02, 2013, 05:48:00 PM
I'd like to see some.  If it works go for it.
Title: Re: Duct Tape fletch
Post by: ronp on August 02, 2013, 05:50:00 PM
I don't think stumps care what kind of fletch is on the arrow they are getting hit with...   :dunno:
Title: Re: Duct Tape fletch
Post by: ronp on August 02, 2013, 05:52:00 PM
I imagine squirrels and woodchucks don't care, either.  Sounds like a good idea!
Title: Re: Duct Tape fletch
Post by: buckracks7 on August 02, 2013, 05:52:00 PM
I would like to see a pic please. I love duct tape for lots of things. Everyone should have some.
Title: Re: Duct Tape fletch
Post by: Chromebuck on August 02, 2013, 06:19:00 PM
Felizardo,

Of course I meant the equivilent of a redneck!

Also, I have a dozen ICS 400's four fletched with Canadian goose feathers that I purchased  right here from Magnus.  I personally prefer the rigidity of goose and turkey.

I'm sure you could search the popular video site for a "how-to" on splitting and grinding raw feathers.

Good luck,

CB
Title: Re: Duct Tape fletch
Post by: SKITCH on August 02, 2013, 06:27:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by buckracks7:
I would like to see a pic please. I love duct tape for lots of things. Everyone should have some.
I just happened to be searching around yesterday for different ideas to fletch some of my own arrows and saw these while searching. Looks like it is popular among survival folks.  

(http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q694/SKITCH_1/B721F7AE-8657-4BF3-A30E-4B12232749C1-2712-000002AE1184F7C3_zpsa4a14a37.jpg)
(http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q694/SKITCH_1/567BE844-7EAE-4BBE-B788-35B494B57A7A-2712-000002AE0CC78F3B_zps6c7ef3d7.jpg)
(http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q694/SKITCH_1/8E0F9E87-61F0-4B6E-B542-B3EBFA34E09E-2712-000002AE081B2FE2_zps4ab5fd80.jpg)
(http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q694/SKITCH_1/08874CD9-C4B8-4C19-9402-C0A6B3E15EBC-2712-000002AE02D7F820_zps485d1151.jpg)
Title: Re: Duct Tape fletch
Post by: ronp on August 02, 2013, 06:35:00 PM
Looks like it would be tough to get them installed with much helical.  Not that I use much helical...

(http://i.imgur.com/EAINB2D.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Duct Tape fletch
Post by: Doods70 on August 02, 2013, 06:36:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by ronp:
I imagine squirrels and woodchucks don't care, either.  Sounds like a good idea!
Thanks...still can't figure out how to post photos though.
Title: Re: Duct Tape fletch
Post by: Doods70 on August 02, 2013, 06:40:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Chromebuck:
Felizardo,

Of course I meant the equivilent of a redneck!

Also, I have a dozen ICS 400's four fletched with Canadian goose feathers that I purchased  right here from Magnus.  I personally prefer the rigidity of goose and turkey.

I'm sure you could search the popular video site for a "how-to" on splitting and grinding raw feathers.

No problem...using feathers may still be in the future. Thanks

Good luck,

CB
Title: Re: Duct Tape fletch
Post by: Doods70 on August 02, 2013, 06:54:00 PM
Have to go to work...in the meantime, Am I allowed to post a link here? SO I can show the bamboo arrows and fletches?

Thanks
Doods
Title: Re: Duct Tape fletch
Post by: el greco on August 02, 2013, 07:03:00 PM
I don't see why not.its not like you are selling them
Title: Re: Duct Tape fletch
Post by: Chromebuck on August 02, 2013, 07:07:00 PM
As long as you do it before you leave for work!

 :campfire:
Title: Re: Duct Tape fletch
Post by: Doods70 on August 03, 2013, 08:38:00 AM
Hi again,

Just got back from work and here is a link of the arrows I made.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151642262458495&set=pcb.10151642268353495&type=1&theater

Thank you
Doods
Title: Re: Duct Tape fletch
Post by: Doc Nock on August 03, 2013, 08:47:00 AM
That is wild stuff you got going on there, bud!    :eek:  

That nail point is wicked... I was curious whether from other's pics, if you guys were using 2 fletch, but I see in yours, you made it 3 fletch...

I cannot fathom how you get them located properly, but more power to you!

Your original question seems to have gotten lost...about "rules"

Were you inquiring about some form of competition "rules" or just "trad" rules of engagement?
Title: Re: Duct Tape fletch
Post by: McDave on August 03, 2013, 08:52:00 AM
The reason we like feathers is because they fold in on themselves, and so don't deflect the arrow very much when they contact the shelf or riser.  I would imagine duct tape is more like a plastic vane, and so you would have to be more careful about clearance, unless you have figured out a way to get it to fold in like a feather?
Title: Re: Duct Tape fletch
Post by: Doods70 on August 03, 2013, 09:15:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Doc Nock:
That is wild stuff you got going on there, bud!     :eek:  

That nail point is wicked... I was curious whether from other's pics, if you guys were using 2 fletch, but I see in yours, you made it 3 fletch...

I cannot fathom how you get them located properly, but more power to you!

Your original question seems to have gotten lost...about "rules"

Were you inquiring about some form of competition "rules" or just "trad" rules of engagement?
Greetings. Yes was just inquiring if they would be ok to use in formal competitions...just curious. I don't see any problems if I use them during the monthly club shoot, but international rules may be against it. Not intending to compete at that level.

The points are often used by the mountain inhabitants here in the Phils. called Aetas.
Title: Re: Duct Tape fletch
Post by: halfseminole on August 03, 2013, 01:17:00 PM
Looks like some of my arrows.  Here locally feathers are a buck each (so one arrow's fletching is 3 dollars) and vanes are about the same.  I could drive an hour and a half for stuff, but I'm not seeing significantly better prices there.  Online I'd have to order enough to make shipping worth it, so I just use tape, with the exception of three arrows I two fletched with Hobby Lobby feathers, which are not holding up that well.  Asking acquaintances for the wings of turkeys they have killed has resulted in requests for $50 or more.  Tape is cheap and works just fine.
Title: Re: Duct Tape fletch
Post by: Doc Nock on August 03, 2013, 01:23:00 PM
Doods,

I was thinking that got lost in the shuffle...your question about competition. I have never been in a trad competition---never will.

Perhaps the Shooter's Forum would have more competitors...or Bisch or someone might pick up on this and answer that question...
Title: Re: Duct Tape fletch
Post by: on August 03, 2013, 01:27:00 PM
duct tape is one thing, but I would suggest upgrading to Gorilla tape, it is tougher stuff and sticks better.
Title: Re: Duct Tape fletch
Post by: Doods70 on August 03, 2013, 07:38:00 PM
Thank you all for the replies.
Title: Re: Duct Tape fletch
Post by: -snypershot317- on August 03, 2013, 09:03:00 PM
duct tape can fold down if you put slits in it. a while ago i made 1/2 dozen flu flus with tape and slit them so the wold fold like feathers and actually worked pretty good for getting the squirrels and crows in the tree tops..another added bonus i found was they were sorta reflective so a flash light would glimmer off them at night to find strays. been a while since ive done that but i do use it for cresting/wrapping my arrows and does its job well. as the old saying goes if aint broke dont fix it..
Title: Re: Duct Tape fletch
Post by: on August 03, 2013, 09:13:00 PM
I shoot 3D tournaments nearly every weekend from January thru September. As far as I know, in all the places I shoot, there would be no rules against using the duct tape fletches. I have seen a few guys use plastic fletches at different shoots.

Of course, the best thing to do would be to check the rules of the organization or club where you want to shoot to make sure there would be no problems.

I just saw your link with the pics of your arrows. I like those fletchings. I think you did a great job and connot see why those would be against the rules anywhere where I shoot. The only rule about fletching that this may not adhere to is that IBO rules say you cannot have fletches less than 4" in length.

Bisch
Title: Re: Duct Tape fletch
Post by: Doods70 on August 03, 2013, 10:21:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by -snypershot317-:
duct tape can fold down if you put slits in it. a while ago i made 1/2 dozen flu flus with tape and slit them so the wold fold like feathers and actually worked pretty good for getting the squirrels and crows in the tree tops..another added bonus i found was they were sorta reflective so a flash light would glimmer off them at night to find strays. been a while since ive done that but i do use it for cresting/wrapping my arrows and does its job well. as the old saying goes if aint broke dont fix it..
SLITS! Great Idea. Will try those right away. Thank you
Title: Re: Duct Tape fletch
Post by: Doods70 on August 03, 2013, 10:24:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Bisch:
I shoot 3D tournaments nearly every weekend from January thru September. As far as I know, in all the places I shoot, there would be no rules against using the duct tape fletches. I have seen a few guys use plastic fletches at different shoots.

Of course, the best thing to do would be to check the rules of the organization or club where you want to shoot to make sure there would be no problems.

I just saw your link with the pics of your arrows. I like those fletchings. I think you did a great job and connot see why those would be against the rules anywhere where I shoot. The only rule about fletching that this may not adhere to is that IBO rules say you cannot have fletches less than 4" in length.

Bisch
Thank you for the insight on the competitive side. I'm glad you liked the sample. Will be building 2 dozen arrows soon from the shafts pictured and will make the fletchings at 4".

Not really sure why since there are no competitions here for trad or longbow but it just interests me.

Thank you again
Doods
Title: Re: Duct Tape fletch
Post by: Craig on August 03, 2013, 10:42:00 PM
http://www.ibo.net/newsDetail.php?n=3

Here are the rules for IBO shoots and I can't see why you couldn't use them.
Title: Re: Duct Tape fletch
Post by: Friend on August 04, 2013, 01:45:00 AM
Duck tape may be more effective.
Title: Re: Duct Tape fletch
Post by: Doods70 on August 04, 2013, 03:14:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Craig:
 http://www.ibo.net/newsDetail.php?n=3  

Here are the rules for IBO shoots and I can't see why you couldn't use them.
Thank you for the link and info.
Title: Re: Duct Tape fletch
Post by: Meathook 1 on August 04, 2013, 06:32:00 AM
I would like to see some pics also,what ever  works.

                   Good Luck Meathook
Title: Re: Duct Tape fletch
Post by: Doods70 on August 04, 2013, 06:36:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Meathook 1:
I would like to see some pics also,what ever  works.

                   Good Luck Meathook
Will do. Starting the build soon. just a dozen for now.

Thank you
Doods
Title: Re: Duct Tape fletch
Post by: nineworlds9 on August 04, 2013, 08:48:00 AM
That's some Happy Gilmore s$@t LOL neato