you posted in july about these shafts (dangerous game forum)where can i find some of these shafts? keith
I re-read the dangerous game post, I believe Terry and I may have chatted witht he same individual. He sent me 6 shafts, 3 70-75pound, adn 3 55-60 pound. What weight bow are you shooting, I will never shoot the 70 pound spine ones if you would like to try them.
i shoot 70-75's,im trying to find some 5/16 diameter woods that heavy spined.what diameter are they & where can i find them?
5/16 shafts that heavy of a spine, maybe hickory. Or if you can find them, good luck, the old Alaskan Forgewoods or Sweetlsnds. I do not think maple will make that spine in a 5/16 shaft.
Danny
You would have to run a lot of Maple, Hickory, or Ash to find 5/16" shafts in that spine range.
I am in the process of turning some IPE that will probably make 70-75 in a 5/16 shaft. Right now they are 11/32 and in the 90#'s so I am going to take those on down to 5/16". They will probably be 800 grains or so @ 36" long.
Dennis
Email Dean Torges....he can probably tell ya where to get some.
The guy I got mine from use to post as 'Archery 7' and aint heard hide nor hair from him in about 3 years. Ralph....but I can't remember his last name.
Keith:
In the past few years, several people have advertised compress shafts of all kinds. To be honest with you, there has not been a compressed wooden arrow shaft since Bill Sweetland's compressed cedar's.(forgewoods or battleshafts) What your seeing today is nothing but shafts that have been put through a spinning burnishing die. Did it reduce the size of the shaft, yes slightly but it did NOT compress it. A true compressed shaft is compressed in one direction (compressing the growth rings) BEFORE the wood is turned into a shaft.
thanks guys. hey dennis,what is IPE?
Not to disagree Bob, but the Alaskan Forgewoods were compressed just like the Sweetland Forgewoods, using the same machinery,but they were Alaskan Hemlock, not cedar like the Sweetlands. Too bad neither is made today, great shafts.
Danny
Turkeyslayer, I too wanted 5/16 in that spine, and since I can't find any, I started double tapering my own 11/32 cedar with a rasp and heavy sand paper. That worked so well that I asked Ted at Raptor Archery to double taper a large batch of my cedar shafting. It is not 5/16 but it will provide pretty much the same penetration.
Ipe is a hardwood that is exported from Brazil and is often called Brazilian Walnut or Ironwood. Very heavy with a specific gravity of .85 to .97 and makes a 5/16" shaft that spines around 60-80#'s.
Here is a link for some information.
http://www.ipe-wood.com/tech.html
Dennis
hey dennis,i would like to try some of those ipe shafts your working on,if they turn out to be 70-75 spines,(that is,if they are up for sale?) thanks keith
Danny:
You must wonder why the Alaskan compressed are no longer made? Bill Sweetland told me many years ago that his father experimented compressing every specie of wood he could find (trying to make armor for the military during WWI),thats where the idea for the forgewoods came from, and POC was the only wood that made a good compressed shaft. I'll bet if Bill Was still living when those guy's bought the equipment he would have told them it would not work!
Bob
Thanks for the info Bob,did not know that. Yeah, the Alaskans are not as good as the Sweetlands, but are still good shafts,most of the time,you do find some that are crap though. I do have one set of arrows made from Sweetland shafts that I was lucky to find and they are skinny arrows,lol. 70# but thinner than 5/16". I found some Sweetland Head Shrinkers for the points and they are the cats meow, but I only shot one arrow a few times to check flight and put them away, saving them for a special hunt. I have a decent stash of the Alaskans that I shoot.
Danny