I'm just curious how different people scout for Whitetails through out the year, and maybe pick upa few tips. How do you scout in the winter that's different from the spring and so on??
During the winter, esp if there's snow on the ground, I like to find the heavier trails and bedding areas. In the spring, I again, look for the heavier trails before the foliage gets too heavy. I also try to gage who the deer made it through the winter...looking for winter kills as well as sheds.
I don't do a whole lot until late summer into the fall where I look for mass food sources to finally set stands.
I don't really a whole lot on trail cams, more so for the reason that I only own one. I used to be somewhat against them, but I'm starting to warm up to using them as an additional tool in scouting.
Been at this over 30 years, and its never too late to pick up new tips!
I don't Waist of time scouting white tails out here. :D
The best time to scout is right after the season closes. The deer haven't changed their patterns yet so you will be able to see where they go and have been. Other times of the year the deer change their patterns to find different sources of food, water, etc. You can still scout during the off season months but the deer's movement will change shortly after the season starts or in some areas when the season starts later they have already changed.
I haven't been hunting deer very long since I spent most of my life in south Florida. I haven't gotten into searching for 'deer sign' very much yet, but do recognize and have located scrapes and rubs. As of right now I primarily concern myself with scouting topography and food/water sources. I try to think like a deer- where would I go and what would I eat. Real basic. Last season I encountered 5 does and 2 bucks over the span of several different hunts. So far so good. Turning my attention more to specific deer signs seems to be the next natural step.
Find oak trees! I also hunt terrain features I find on maps and then narrow it down further by looking for sign sch as poop, tracks, rubs, beds etc. In Tennessee hunting pinch points and food is the way to go.
VictoryHunter hit the nail on the head...find oak trees! When acorns are dropping the deer will go to oaks before they will go to corn...and thats sayin' something. White oaks are best but chestnut oaks are a close second. The best part is, acorns start dropping right at the start of bow season usually.
Other than that, hunting terrain is the way to go. Here on the edge of the Cumberland Plateau in middle TN, low gaps and saddles on ridge tops are a natural deer funnel/magnet. I also like to set up in places where open hardwoods and cedar thickets meet....I've killed my biggest deer in such places.
Ask all surrounding neighbors what their seeing running around their yards, river bank and orchard.
Around here I look for the areas they feed along the roads at sunrise and sunset. If they stay within a 1/4 mile over a month long period I mark the spot and scout it out later.
It has been my observation that they come back to an area every few weeks when new growth has come up, this gives me a chance at the beginning of the bow season when others cry its to hot.They are usually still calm and relaxed at that point.
Oh, one more thing....I got to really thinking about it after my previous post. Walk around your property and find some trails. A really good, well used trail will look like a cattle trail....you can't miss em.
Walk those trails out just to see where they are coming from, going to, vice-versa. You may have to stay up a tree a little longer in season to know when they are using said trails but its well worth it.
Most of the places I hunt I have cut the timber on. So I get to know every inch of the property better than I would like to. But it really does pay off finding the trails/sign and know what the deer on that piece of land are doing.
How are you scouting in the different seasons? Do you scout all 4 seasons?
Hi, Sean!!!!! How's that Police car & spotight working out for ya??? LMAO!!!
Not too good...only seein slick heads around Mt. Alevernia!!!
Well, I think it's that time of year... I haven't seen a buck ANYWARE in the last 2 months! Seems like the bucks come out of hiding around August.
I just look out of the window... My house is built inside a bedding area... :dunno:
... mike ...
I'm always looking, stumping, fishing or whenever I get out. The bad thing in this neck of the woods is the deer numbers are so low that they never are consistent in their feeding habits...they can eat anywhere. Then in the fall it's all about the mast. Acorns and Beech nut and some wild apples....if we have them it can be good....if we don't, it's a tough hunt ever time! But all areas are different, just spend as much time as time allows.......
Look for shed antlers and sign left over from Nov in the winter and early spring months and run trail cameras from may - Jan.
I leave out my trail cameras throughout the year and check all the creek beds on my property. They usually tell me where the deer are moving and my cameras tell me when the deer are moving. I also like to glass the property from a non-intrusive position. Then I start getting up a game plan about a month before the season off the information I compiled in the recent months. :archer2:
I do most of the things already mentioned In one way or another but my favorite time of year to scout is July. I love to set up the glasses and watch the bucks in the bean fields from long distance. Around here there In The same fields every evening in July. I spent an hour Wednesday watching a bachelor group with 3 bucks over 140" and still some growing to do. This is without a doubt the best time of year to find the areas that have mature deer and decide which ones to go after. The only downsides the ticks and Mosquitos!
With property I am unfamiliar with, I like to walk through it during deer season. Dont agonize over every inch just go until you find A LOT of sign. gather as much information as quick as possible without stinking it up too much. find your tree or spot, note wind directions and look for patterns.
Then hunt it and fine tune based on deer movement. It may take a year or two before you perfect a "spot".
Usually my best spots have been fine tuned for a year or two.
Most scouting I do in the winter/summer is futile. deer tend to change their patterns here come bow season.
Also google earth and topo maps are your best friends :D
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Also google earth and topo maps are your best friends :D
Very useful indeed. These tools will usually bring me to great areas, no lucky stumbling needed.
Actualy, I've never been one to "Google", But...
If you go on "google earth" Look at a piece of property & find the old stone walls. Any old "Bar Gate" in a stone wall, is almost a guaranted deer crossing!!!
I've never found a bar gate deer didn't like!!!!!
My scouting now primarily revolves around locating bedding areas. Easiest to do right after season. But I've also learned some things at Uncle Barry's boot camp to incorporate.
I've got satellite pics of all my spots. one of these years, I'd love to get to Uncle Barry's Boot Camp!!
i kinda quit scouting, its so hit or miss here. you can scout n some guy comes along n sit beside you anyhow or hangs a stand in the spot you scouted out. i go for couple walks the week before season and scout while i hunt during the season and leave it at that. i have scouted my little heart out over the years an the results are always the same. winter would be best time just after all seasons.. but im out jigging fish up through a frozen lake at that time. i hunt state land so if i was on private it think your scouting would improve your chances tremendously just so you dont keep bumping deer or letting too much scent around.
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I've got satellite pics of all my spots. one of these years, I'd love to get to Uncle Barry's Boot Camp!!
i belive they about to stop doing that? better hurry. but i would enjoy that also!!
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I'm always looking, stumping, fishing or whenever I get out. The bad thing in this neck of the woods is the deer numbers are so low that they never are consistent in their feeding habits...they can eat anywhere. Then in the fall it's all about the mast. Acorns and Beech nut and some wild apples....if we have them it can be good....if we don't, it's a tough hunt ever time! But all areas are different, just spend as much time as time allows.......
i know your pains! :knothead:
I'd love to be scouting now but with the deer ticks so bad on long island i wait until late Aug/ Sept to go in the woods since by then the nymph ticks will be gone. The nymph ticks are so small you just can't see them and I don't want to get lyme disease.
Great tips. I have a spot that's been hard by "Sandy". A LOT of blow downs, I haven't been in there lately to see how it had effected their movement. It is a big open hardwood lot with a lot of benches and saddles. The last 12 years, its been my "honey whole".
Sean,Irene did the same thing in some of my hunting spots.The whole upper half of a white oak borke off and fell right on the main trail in front of my favorite stand.Spent a good part of a day clearing it out.Killed a 144" and the buck in my avatar outta that tree,so I wanna keep that trail open.
I stump shoot my bow hunting areas and do a lot of scouting while I am.Late Winter-Early Spring seems best as things haven't greened up yet and the woods are a bare blueprint.Rubs,scrapes,trails,bedding areas etc. are all easier to spot.The more time you spend looking over your property and paying attention the more you will learn how the deer use it.
Jeff, this stop has been unreal for me. It seems like every other tree is a white oak. I've taken a bunch of good bucks out of there including a 135"er with double brows. I've seen a bunch of others that were JUST out of range. Theres a low spot about 100 yrds w X 400 yrds L that it seems all the trees got knocked down. I might be able to set up a good ground spot there.
Sounds like that piece has been good to you,just might have to hunt it a little different with all the trees down now.Goodluck this season.