Anybody use scent-loc and its copiers???If so does it really work???
NO & NO
I use it and it works great. You have to be completely covered, jacket, pants, and hat. I even have Scent Loc boots. Nothing is 100% but it must be close.
I use it. I figure it can't hurt anything, but I don't know how much it helps, if any. I will say I have never payed full price for any of the pieces I own. I only buy it when I can find it on sale / clearance for prices that make it comparable to similar quality hunting clothing.
NO, another company from Michigan that moved production to MEXICO. I say boycott for that reason alone.
All I am going to say don't base the company off what others say. Get some and try it. If you don't like it pass it on.
Craig
I hunt with a lot of folks who have been at this game a while. Not one of them uses anything resembling scentlock. But don't let that stop ya'. :archer2:
One of my best bowhunting buddys, was a K-9 cop for 15 years, before being promoted to Detective a few years ago. He would always tell me, "Dress yourself in scent-loc, spray yourself with sent-away, carbon blast, do whatever you want to do... I'll give you a half hour,to go hide in the woods. Then Hudson(his dog) & I, WILL come find you!!!"
Bottom line..... The wind is your best friend, or your worst enemy
Smoke your clothes/boots and just use some additional scent killer on the boots(might not even need the scent killer honestly). There are a number of people on Trad Gang that can attest this system has gotten me ridiculously close to dozens of deer. This has worked both on public and private land. As far as I am concerned, it is a proven system.
-Charlie
FYI; The hard wood smoke contains formaldehyde and carbon. It keeps you from spreading your human scent more than needed by killing off the bacteria and adding a cover scent. A bee smoking kit can do the same thing for you.
Charlie,
How do you smoke your clothes, camp fire?
I do not believe in the sent lock stuff, I tried it years ago.
Yup! This guy was at about 9 yards and crossed my walk in trail just before I shot him. He had no idea I was there. This is a wary public land buck. I have been much closer to others, but messed up at the last second too many times to count :banghead: !
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I wear it and I believe it doesn't work...but it does help.
There is simply no way to get rod of all our stinkiness. However, I am a firm believer that scentlock works in helping decrease the amount of odors we spread which have been absorbed by our clothing.
Take a look at their sales pitch. "Adsorbs Odors" only means that the clothing doesn't fill up with all the extraneous odors around us. Adsorbs is the opposite of absorbs. I think that is something a lot of people don't understand.
Still the best bet to not getting picked off due to your smell is to keep the wind in your face.
I am very strict about scent control and where I enter my stands and such. These products help for sure and can give you some leeway but the only 100% sure fire fire way to beat a deer's nose is to play the wind. I will not hunt a stand if the wind is wrong even though I use scent free clothes and personal hygiene products.
I buy "carbon synergy" powder.. Like $8 for a bottle and you lasts all season. Its just powdered black carbon and you can use it to make anything scent loc esque. Stuff works awesome. Dip your clothea in it, smear on you, etc. Been busted 100 times before starting to use this. Was 10 yards from deer last year with the wind blowing TO them and went un busted. I dont fall for gimmicks, but this stuff is the real deal. None of the other scent sprays worked as well for me.
Oh yeah. I even used the carbon synergy powder on dog when he got sprayed by a skunk AND used it in basement when the cat urinated in a few spots that werent his litter box. Worked IMMEDIATELY to eliminate those scents. After that, I was sold
Numerous experiences over a week in the backwoods living out of a pack without luxury of shower and clean clothes, but still managed to use the sun, thermals, and wind to get ridiculously close to many hunted game animals. Someone once coined a phrase something to the effect, if the game animal can smell you, you ain't hunting it right.
Best :)
The only thing I ever used was a military NBC suit(charcoal lined for absorption of chemicals)It worked good. since those days I just use the wind to my advantage.
I have used the scent-loc in the past, I believe it does help reduce your scent to the point where the deer think you passed through hours ago and dont get alarmed. I also agree 100% with the earlier post about the smoke cover scent, I have no problem sitting around the campfire in my hunting camo.
I agree that wind and thermals are the biggest factors while IN the stand.
My point in smoking hunting gear is to minimize scent on my trail coming to and from the stands. I have had many deer cross my walk-in trail. They have yet to spook and leave the area. That is why I believe in smoking hunting gear. I think it is a good tool to minimize the human scent you leave behind while getting to and from a stand. I have had a few deer down wind and it seemed to work then as well, but I might have just had good thermals working in my favor!
That is my 2 cents,
-Charlie
The problem is they have proved it doesn't work, at least not once you have to regenerate it, because it can't be regenerated. The amount of heat that would be needed would burn the clothes.
There is a way to regenerate the carbon clothes without any heat. You would need an ozone generator, I do them beginning of every season, with a ozone generator, and it's very effective.
Nope. Skunk Screen is the best stuff I have ever found. Wife hates it though. It will actually mask the human scent; I have had many deer close enough to reach out and touch them and they never knew I was there or if they did they did not distinguish the human scent. I also rub real good with cedar and sage or juniper or fir . Whatever strong smelling wood is in the area. I too make it a habit to get in the smoke of the campfire every night.
God bless, Steve
Quality clothing, but only the direction of the wind is going to hide your scent IMHO.
Here in the north east hills, there are times when there is no such thing as getting down wind. The wind is always swapping directions and swirling. Scent control is a must. I don't use carbon suits, but I do use wind proof clothing and a host of other methods. I wouldn't be very successful if I didn't.
Another way to "smoke" your clothes is with a rig like bee keepers use, which is a... smoker.
The smoking thread was up before and someone posted a company that sold the smokers. I like the idea and will be trying it this fall with a bee keeper friends smoker.
I use it and believe it works. It doesn't eliminate your scent completely but it does dumb it down to levels that the animals think you are a lot farther away than you are. This gives you the advantage.
You can't hunt the wind where I hunt it changes all the time. Besides if you are hunting a food source the older animals are going to come in with the wind in their favor especially the further you are into the hunting season. If they think you are several hundred yards away and you are only 10 then you have the advantage.LCH
As usual doing things in the wrong order. Do a search in Powwow for Smoke as scent control, 7 matches found.
No and no, I know guys that smoke cigarettes in the stand and kill deer and get close to deer all the time IMHO scent control is way over rated, when I stopped being such a freak about it, I saw the same amount of deer! Just pay more attention to wind, thermals etc.....
Wasn't there something about a father smoking his kids clothes and boots and I think the kid also, hid his son in the woods and let loose his hound, made a bee line for the kid, found him easy. Which brings us all back to playing the wind, I think all of these scent control technics work to an extent, they probably help in getting up close and maybe with swirling wind, but one still has to play the wind.
Quote "Here in the north east hills, there are times when there is no such thing as getting down wind. The wind is always swapping directions and swirling. Scent control is a must. I don't use carbon suits, but I do use wind proof clothing and a host of other methods. I wouldn't be very successful if I didn't."
X2!
If I waited to hunt till the wind was right I'd never hunt around these parts. Actually it's not that hard to fool a deers nose on wind driven scent! I too use wind proof clothing and a homemade scent killer. I think alot of folks get hung up on trailing scent as in dogs VS wind blown scent. Two entirely different problems.
Don't use it.
I try to stay as clean as possible and avoid as many contaminating odors as I can.
I don't know if it matters to be smelled a lot or just a little bit, either way I don't use any scent control and try not to worry about wind direction. It just frustrates me when I do.
The wind always comes from the opposite direction as the weatherman forecasted and I can change which direction it blows just by attempting to walk with it in my face.
Fresh earth spray, smells like dirt. Odorless deodorant. Don't know how well they work but gives confidence. Also camo in a bag with limbs, leaves, pine etc. from the area I hunt.
QuoteOriginally posted by USN_Sam1385:
I buy "carbon synergy" powder.. Like $8 for a bottle and you lasts all season. Its just powdered black carbon and you can use it to make anything scent loc esque. Stuff works awesome. Dip your clothea in it, smear on you, etc. Been busted 100 times before starting to use this. Was 10 yards from deer last year with the wind blowing TO them and went un busted. I dont fall for gimmicks, but this stuff is the real deal. None of the other scent sprays worked as well for me.
I picked some up and will be trying it out for the first time in a couple of weeks. I sprayed down my clothing with it, dusted a container with it, layered my clothes in the container while dusting some more, and then sealed the container ready for the hunt. I'll report back my thoughts after the first season here in California.
Quick question though: Does it permanently stain your clothing and gear black, or does that wear off?
I don't buy the premise of Scent-Loc or other similar clothing. Everything I've read that had a bit of science behind it says it is impossible to regenerate the carbon with home-based appliances. Besides, wouldn't the carbon in the clothing be saturated with scent just hanging on the rack?
I'll stick with clean clothes, a clean body, and hope the wind cooperates...lol.
I spend my money on other things. I think that the scent control is too minimal to be a factor. I bought it when it first came out in the very early '90's when It was just a greenish/grey suit that you wore just under your camo. I didn't notice a difference.
My advise......play the wind, spend the extra $200 on arrows and broadheads.
I don't buy the premise or the product.
Would rather throw my money away on other stuff.
I can't hold my breath long enough for sent lock to work..
Play the wind. I shot a cow elk at 8 feet-the arrow was still in paradox. There were 2 more elk upwind at this time neither of whom picked up my scent. You have to keep track of the wind at all times and be prepared to make changes as the wind shifts. I put on 'camp clothes' as soon as I'm done hunting, and step in cow pies and non predator poop through the day as I am hunting, and best is to step in the poop of what you are after.
like woodchucker said......they will smell you period......all that high dollar fancy stuff "may" give you an advantage, but I just watch my "wind feather"......my German Shepherd has trailed me after two days, and she don't make her living in the woods....... :dunno:
I still say, "Be American" and buy American.
Ditto Bjorn. LOL I step in elk poo all day long.
Cou0ple of years ago I was working uphill with wind in my face and I smelled something like perfume. I knew it was human but could not imagine what it was. About ten minutes later a man and his son that were carrying bows came tripping down the path. The smell was really strong aftershave that the man was wearing. I had to have been a half mile away from them when I smelled that stuff LOL. Sometimes I wonder about people. Then again maybe he knew something I didn't and had tested his aftershave.
So here he was walking with the wind and wearing strong aftershave. all camoed up and face paint and the works. Almost made me wonder if I knew what I was doing .
God bless, Steve
I'm too cheap to buy it.
The dumbest thing I saw in one of the big outdoor stores was a sent lock vest. Even if you believe in the stuff, why would you buy a garment that is supposed to hide your sent yet leaves one of the most smelly places of your body exposed?
When this was dairy country all the guys would hang there close in the barn.....it worked then. Now less dairy around, but still maybe the way to go.
I like the saying something to the effect " ignorance is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results". I don't own or have never bought scent lock suits, don't endorse or sell scent killer, BUT it's relatively easy to fool a white tails nose with wind blown scent. Just because you keep saying it can't be done wearing the same "type" clothes doing the same thing doesn't mean it can't be done. I love these threads actually as it reminds me how I can have deer directly down wind under my stand scenting other hunters staring in their direction not having a clue I'm 12 yards from them.
I reread through all this again.. I hear a lot about recharging and how it would wear off etc. I agree. I think thats why this cheapo $7 bottle of powder works so well. I wash the clothes then put the powder in water and dip clothes in it.
So essentially its a brand new carbon suit that you "recharge" for 50 cents by redipping it. As for smoke, its the same concept as carbon. Smoke is basically just carbon.
As for scent loc specifially, never would or could spend the money on it. Like I said I think im essentially making the same thing for a 50th of the cost.
Yep, would rather spend my money on wool. Keep in mind gent's, what the outer layer of the "scentlock" technology is made from? Wool, in all it's wonder (lol), doesn't hold scent like cottom or petro based products. I have seen more deer since wearing it then when I had on other things. Personally, it's all about playing the wind!! Native American's didn't have it, and was poor shots (like me), yet they became "good" hunters to eat. and Yes buy american, might be little more or hell double, but will last you four times as long and may come around to saving your pocketbook someday too.
Let's just assume for the sake of argument that the stuff is 100% effective. That is, if you wear it, your scent is completely undetectable to deer. In effect, you've taken away one of their primary means of defense/escape. Seems to violate the concept of fair chase?
Even if it's only partly effective, it certainly turns the odds much more in the "hunter's" favor. It's another example of substituting technology for woodsmanship. That's why I have never and will never use it.
To each, his own. :dunno:
I don't buy into it. I prefer to do my homework and play the wind. I also prefer to spend money on more enjoyable things such as bows, knives and such.
1 thought that always came to mind. If the stuff worked so well you would think that drug smugglers would be using it to defeat drug dogs. Since a deer supposedly has more olfactory receptors than a dog it stands to reason it would defeat drug sniffing dogs.
On the other hand, I am intrigued by the idea of garments woven with materials that prevent the growth of odor causing bacteria. Not to beat a whitetails nose but I think it might make it possible to reduce residual odor after leaving the woods.